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Fishing in British Columbia => The Fish Kitchen => Topic started by: canso on November 21, 2007, 07:58:23 PM

Title: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: canso on November 21, 2007, 07:58:23 PM
Have you guy's ever met up with a Tapeworm when cleaning your Salmon?

how normal is this?

4-5' of tape worm came out of my biggest Spring this year.
I didn't really figure it out until I saw it trying to worm away, then I noticed it had eaten some of the roe as well.

its been in the back of my mind since I saw it.
the fish is still frozen in my freezer, awaiting her future.
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: newsman on November 21, 2007, 08:10:47 PM
That's why I never eat raw fish.
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: troutbreath on November 21, 2007, 08:16:24 PM
Technically a having a baby is considered a "host - parasite" relationship. So having a tapeworm is as close to the special moment as you can get as a guy. Hope that wets your whistle. :-\
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: clownfish on November 21, 2007, 08:53:25 PM
Canso, I'm not any expert on this, but, from what I've read on a couple of sites where this topic has come up in the past (might have been on here as well), if that fish has been properly frozen, ALL the way thru, then there is no chance of any parasites surviving. And cooking will definitely take care of it (then its just extra protein). Apparently it is not unusual to find a variety of worm, or worm-like parasites, in fish (or a lot of other things that we eat, yumm). Although, I don't know that any type of tapeworm I've ever heard of would eat roe, I'm fairly sure (from what I recall from high school biology and a couple of knowledge network shows) that tapeworms extract their nutrients from the host by attaching to the inner wall of the intestines, but, like I said I'm not an expert.
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: canso on November 21, 2007, 09:16:38 PM

I can't honestly say the tapeworm had eaten the eggs,
 but it seemed that there was about 1/4 of 1 side of the roe missing when compared to the other side.
I was in shock, since it was the first time I had seen something like that.

it was flat, about 1/4" wide, with defined segments, bone or light beige colour. and it moved pretty fast for a worm.
 
I kept cuting it up, but it was like I was helping it reproduce. lol
I felt bad for chucking it in the water, thinking i was infecting more fish :-\
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 21, 2007, 09:25:45 PM
4-5' ? :o
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: troutbreath on November 21, 2007, 09:44:47 PM
Paul lake near Kamloops was well known for trout with tapeworm in them. As far as I heard some guy who lived in one of the lakeshore cabins was responsible for the problem. Shocked me the first time I saw one in a trout but one in a Salmon is news to me. Then theres Hatzik Lake coiler demons too. :(
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: canso on November 21, 2007, 09:47:59 PM
4-5' ? :o

oh ya!
when I first poked at it with the knife I dragged it along the table and it uncoiled like an accordion,
thats when I started cutting it up, and figured out what it was.

I'm still disturbed about the whole situation, this is the first I’ve talked about it.
it happend in Aug.
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: BwiBwi on November 21, 2007, 10:17:31 PM
Freezing your fish -18C for seven days continuouse will kill off those parasites.

Tapeworm is a common problem with fish that pass through seal, sea lion, infested area.(salt water fish).

If you got it in you, well..  you'll start to eat alot and still loose weight.   ;)
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: BladeKid on November 21, 2007, 11:11:03 PM
That's why I never eat raw fish.

Salmon rolls are my favourite (raw salmon), maybe I should say "were" :D.... :-\. Do they freeze the salmon before making sushi with it?
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Post by: Fish Assassin on November 21, 2007, 11:39:04 PM
I believe they do
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: oddjob on November 22, 2007, 12:08:47 PM
they are supposed to freeze them however some of the smaller sushi places may not . I have been to a place where they take out a chunk of atlantic salmon becauce they ran out as they say .
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: coryandtrevor on November 22, 2007, 12:47:55 PM
That's why I never eat raw fish.

Salmon rolls are my favourite (raw salmon), maybe I should say "were" :D.... :-\. Do they freeze the salmon before making sushi with it?

Properly prepared Sushi is flash frozen to kill all parasites. The Greater Vancouver area restaurants are pretty on the ball but i cant speak for other markets. The Phoenix Coyotes hockey team has been poisoned 3 times now eating sushi in Arizona. My wife is a biologist and some of the parasites that live in fish can be much worse than tapeworms !!!!! So go easy on the all you can eat sashimi in Merritt  ;D
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: BwiBwi on November 22, 2007, 07:43:58 PM
Toxin producing bacteria is the worst. Tapeworm after freezing, you need not to worry about it.
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Post by: troutbreath on November 22, 2007, 10:32:13 PM
Putting small tapeworms in sushi probably would sell good :) They wouldn't be so hard to eat as a 4 or 5 footer.
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Post by: SeaRun on November 23, 2007, 12:17:25 AM
Haven't seen any tapeworms in salmon although I have caught rainbows from certain lakes with tapeworms.   Tapeworms are usually found in the intestine.   The "head" of tapeworms usually have suckers and hooks to attach to the inner wall of the intestine where they absorb nutrients from the host.   I have seen the occasional round worm in salmon around the rib cage area.  Round worms are usually transparent and can be seen coiled in the tissue if the fish fillet is held up to a light.   Halibut seem to have large numbers of round worms in the tissue around the belly/rib cage area.   A lot of people discard this part of the halibut.   Restaurants serving sushi are required to freeze fish for several days at a specific temperature to kill any parasites and daily records of freezer/cooler temperatures must be kept.       
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: BladeKid on November 23, 2007, 08:51:57 AM
Fewwff...good to know!
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: SeaRun on November 23, 2007, 09:00:19 PM
Hi Michaelt!   Glad to hear that you are not going to miss you favorite food.   ;D    You can check Health Inspection reports on-line to see which restaurants have good ratings by the Heath Department.    ;)
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: aquaboy24 on November 24, 2007, 07:48:29 PM
Tapeworms are also a great way to lose weight fast!
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: coryandtrevor on November 26, 2007, 12:47:58 PM
The coho we caught on the weekend had sea lice attatched to their bodies as well as some 1 - 3 inch worms/leeches.

Anyone know what those little squiggly worms/leeches were ?
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: kingpin on December 05, 2007, 02:13:18 PM
caught a nice little red jack this year on the cheddar, about a 2-3inch worm in the body cavity but not meat. froze it and ate it a few weeks later..no problems
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: BigCoho on December 09, 2007, 10:38:34 PM
they actually taste quite good if you fry them up with some onions garlic and butter ;D
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: boscheefish on August 30, 2008, 04:12:02 PM
 :-X feeling sick now
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: Every Day on August 30, 2008, 04:53:49 PM
I have gotten a few bigger fish that had worms inside the meat. I am not sure what they were but almost all of my fish get frizen for a couple weeks before I smoke them so Im not too worried.  ;)
Title: Re: Tapeworm? when cleaning a fish
Post by: Numbnuts on August 31, 2008, 03:32:19 PM
Paul lake near Kamloops was well known for trout with tapeworm in them. As far as I heard some guy who lived in one of the lakeshore cabins was responsible for the problem.

did he have tapeworm and crap in the lake or something?