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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: chris gadsden on October 22, 2007, 12:21:15 PM
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I got an early start this morning with great expectations of some good coho salmon action but the heavy rain overnight caused me some concern as I hopped into the Leaf Mobile it was still raining.
A coffee at the long table saw another of the regulars geared up too. The usual story telling takes place there but lots of fishing experience there from some of the retired anglers. I know they are deeply saddened by the way so many take their fish these days, at places like Tamahi Rapids, The Limits Hole and the Cement Slabs. At T.R.'s people take their 4 coho daily there while those that float fish roe or throw spoons or blades have a tough time getting a couple, in most cases.
I am glad 4 of us met with the Minister on Friday to try and correct this but unless a lot of people get more involved it will be difficult, no use trying to fool myself as there is a lot of people that you would think would no better think things are fine. Shame on them I say.
Then I went to my chosen spot but one look said forget, not that great, so headed up river to change a couple of garbage bags. I noticed by the Washout, above the slides it looked fishable so tried for about 15 minutes but I hate fishing that high up. I donot know why but I think it was instilled in me by the The Master many years ago. Of course there is nothing wrong fishing there, I guess we do not like fishing areas with a steep gradient.
I stop at the L. H. and change the bag and cleanup up some. People fishing just with a weight, no float. Saw one large female chinook laying on the bank as well saw other fish on but what happens in many cases when a fish is hooked in parts of the body they can not be controlled and break off often or the hooks pulls out.
Stopped for a gab session at the hatchery, I believe they have around 7,000 coho salmon in, Buck can update us on that.
As I start my journey downstream I see the water is coloring now, all the way down. I stop at T. R. and a good number of coho are laying along the beach.
I then stop at a few places on the way home and find a dozen floats but no DNE or Drennans.
Also spot that one of my hunting fields has a good number of ducks in it, time to go webfoot hunting and wait for the water to clear, it may take a day or two with warmer weather on the way they say.
Time to hit a badminton bird now before taking the scattergun out into the field, for the evening flight.
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have you been out for ducks yet this season chris? the november rain and winds are coming i can feel it ;D
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Only 1 trip.
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I just got a call from The Master and he has taken the day off with his client who have been fly fishing the Harrison for coho salmon the last few days. Weather conditions especially the wind have made thinks miserable he reports.
He thinks the coho salmon may be late into that system as well as the Chehalis. :-\
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How did Mats Sundin make out ? I hear he's a great golfer (lots of practice) but is he a fisherman ? ;D
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when i get a female chinook the body was teared and i could saw the meat of the chinook although it was pretty fresh. man snaggers...
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How did Mats Sundin make out ? I hear he's a great golfer (lots of practice) but is he a fisherman ? ;D
He had a lovely trip ;D and now repfreshed for a number of wins and the scoring title. ;D ;D ;D
Please donot hijack the threads. ;D
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At T.R.'s people take their 4 coho daily there while those that float fish roe or throw spoons or blades have a tough time getting a couple, in most cases.
Although it isn't entirely comparing apples to apples because of the difference in ethics. It does remind me of a time about 30 years ago when we use to mooch with live bait and strip. We looked down on the trollers with their engines always going and the gas burning in their face. We used twelve pound leader and two ounces of weight. They used twenty and thirty pound test and six to eight ounce weight. We held on to our righteous ways as long as we could but as time when on and it seemed there was fewer fish to be caught we too switched to trolling because we wanted to catch fish. For what is worth I am not advocating we all switch to bottom bouncing and long leaders. I am not ready yet. I cannot help to wonder if it is the new way. Maybe more productive as you allude to. Sometimes life has to go on in new ways despite our disapproval. If we moochers had of had trolling banned because we didnt agree with it would it have been right? There probably would be a hell of a lot more fish out there and we would still be out there anchored at the hole in wall but I dont know if it would be right. Holding back new ways of doing things. By all means not advocating for anybody or anything just playing the devils advocate and providing food for thought.
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At T.R.'s people take their 4 coho daily there while those that float fish roe or throw spoons or blades have a tough time getting a couple, in most cases.
Although it isn't entirely comparing apples to apples because of the difference in ethics. It does remind me of a time about 30 years ago when we use to mooch with live bait and strip. We looked down on the trollers with their engines always going and the gas burning in their face. We used twelve pound leader and two ounces of weight. They used twenty and thirty pound test and six to eight ounce weight. We held on to our righteous ways as long as we could but as time when on and it seemed there was fewer fish to be caught we too switched to trolling because we wanted to catch fish. For what is worth I am not advocating we all switch to bottom bouncing and long leaders. I am not ready yet. I cannot help to wonder if it is the new way. Maybe more productive as you allude to. Sometimes life has to go on in new ways despite our disapproval. If we moochers had of had trolling banned because we didnt agree with it would it have been right? There probably would be a hell of a lot more fish out there and we would still be out there anchored at the hole in wall but I dont know if it would be right. Holding back new ways of doing things. By all means not advocating for anybody or anything just playing the devils advocate and providing food for thought.
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At T.R.'s people take their 4 coho daily there while those that float fish roe or throw spoons or blades have a tough time getting a couple, in most cases.[/color][/color][/color]Although it isn't entirely comparing apples to apples because of the difference in ethics. It does remind me of a time about 30 years ago when we use to mooch with live bait and strip. We looked down on the trollers with their engines always going and the gas burning in their face. We used twelve pound leader and two ounces of weight. They used twenty and thirty pound test and six to eight ounce weight. We held on to our righteous ways as long as we could but as time when on and it seemed there was fewer fish to be caught we too switched to trolling because we wanted to catch fish. For what is worth I am not advocating we all switch to bottom bouncing and long leaders. I am not ready yet. I cannot help to wonder if it is the new way. Maybe more productive as you allude to. Sometimes life has to go on in new ways despite our disapproval. If we moochers had of had trolling banned because we didnt agree with it would it have been right? There probably would be a hell of a lot more fish out there and we would still be out there anchored at the hole in wall but I dont know if it would be right. Holding back new ways of doing things. By all means not advocating for anybody or anything just playing the devils advocate and providing food for thought.
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"At T.R.'s people take their 4 coho daily there while those that float fish roe or throw spoons or blades have a tough time getting a couple, in most cases."
Athough it isn't entirely comparing apples to apples because of the difference in ethics (ie. foulhooking). It does remind me of a time about 30 years ago when we use to mooch with live bait and strip. We looked down on the trollers with their engines always going and the gas burning in their face. We used twelve pound leader and two ounces of weight. They used twenty and thirty pound test and six to eight ounce weight. We held on to our righteous ways as long as we could but as time when on and it seemed there was fewer fish to be caught we too switched to trolling because we wanted to catch fish. For what is worth I am not advocating we all switch to bottom bouncing and long leaders. I am not ready yet. I cannot help to wonder if it is the new way. Maybe more productive as you allude to. Sometimes life has to go on in new ways despite our disapproval. If we moochers had of had trolling banned because we didnt agree with it would it have been right? There probably would be a hell of a lot more fish out there and we would still be out there anchored at the hole in wall but I dont know if it would be right. Holding back new ways of doing things. By all means not advocating for anybody or anything just playing the devils advocate and providing food for thought.
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That is some rank food for thought fishy fish...
I'd rather die than accept that as the norm...
Nicole
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Not only that but the sportsfishermen are not the major reason for declining stocks. We all know what it is from and its not the sportsfishermen.
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I would find accepting flossing as a norm on the vedder to be rather dangerous. I compare this to speed limits on our roads. Most people feel that some highways could handle a higher speed. True enough but if we raised the limit by 10 kms then speeders would push the envelope and go that much faster. Same can be said for flossing. If flossing on the vedder is deemed to be acceptable then more may push the envelope and go with all out snagging.
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With the exception of most sockeye, generally speaking, all species of anadromous fish that enter freshwater will take a presented fly, gob of roe or lure on their own accord. While I don't want to hijack Chris' thread anymore, I'll just have to keep it short ;D. The fish don't really get enough credit considering what they have gone through and what obstacles they have beaten to make it back to their natal stream. If one doesn't want to take the time to bite, surely that should be respected and they should be given that chance to reproduce as others certainly will bite. Move places, even a few metres down or upstream and you might find a willing combatant.
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stopped by the train bridge 2 weekends ago at the vedder. chuck my line in and realize I'm the only 1 with a float. Man I never had so many lines come flying accross my line getting tangled. Everyone there looked at me like I was crazy for having a float on. I quickly moved on. very sad :o
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Fishyfish, the ethics component is a big part of the argument and can not be excluded. I made my second and definately final trip out to the valley and was thouroughly disappointed. Not with the fishing so much, as it is always a pleasure to get out, but absolutely with the lack of sportsmanship on the river. The number of people doesn't bother me, in fact I look at it as a challenge, to see how I measure up as a fishermen to my fellow angler. However, I must be comparing myself to a select few. In my opinion if you have resorted to lining to catch fish you are admitting defeat as far as enticing a strike is concerned.. You may as well pick up a net as you will do less damage to the fish that can't quite come in, tight lines....or should I say long lines, Wintersteel.
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Where are the friggen CO's ? They should have no problem filling their quotas or they care ? >:(
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thats the main problem when u haveput and take hatchery systems..hate to say it but i think it will get alot worse.
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i love you nicole :-*
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I wub you too golfman!! ;D
LOL
Nicole
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managed to do well today despite the dirty water. Found a place where the coho were stacked later in the day. I Had 3 on in the first 20min and hooked 3 more over the next few hours all on silver/blue and silver/orange crocs. Only managed to land 1 hatch and my bud landed a wild (On a Jesarin silver/gold spinner). Lost a couple nice ones close to the beach :'(. Was great fishing when we got there until we got beaked out but picked up again after they left. :P
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I've gotta laugh at suggestions that we should all be float fishing simply because one person prefers it. :-\
I've hooked up with over 40 fish in the last 2.5 weeks on blades and all were coho except two jacks. Not one was flossed nor foul hooked.
You keep doin what you're doin and I'll keep doin what I'm doin! ;D
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I've gotta laugh at suggestions that we should all be float fishing simply because one person prefers it. :-\
I've hooked up with over 40 fish in the last 2.5 weeks on blades and all were coho except two jacks. Not one was flossed nor foul hooked.
You keep doin what you're doin and I'll keep doin what I'm doin! ;D
So if you walk into a small run and 5 guys are float fishing, you go ahead and toss in a blade?
I've seen that a few times and all that happens is the blade guy (since the drift is different and he's not using a float) tangles up with the float guys pretty quick. That's a good strategy for making new enemies.
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I've gotta laugh at suggestions that we should all be float fishing simply because one person prefers it. :-\
I've hooked up with over 40 fish in the last 2.5 weeks on blades and all were coho except two jacks. Not one was flossed nor foul hooked.
You keep doin what you're doin and I'll keep doin what I'm doin! ;D
Read The Journal more closely and you will see I mentioned more than just float fishing. ;D ;D ;D
Anyway you take a fish as while it is taking your offering is what fishing should be all about. ;D ;D
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I've gotta laugh at suggestions that we should all be float fishing simply because one person prefers it. :-\
I've hooked up with over 40 fish in the last 2.5 weeks on blades and all were coho except two jacks. Not one was flossed nor foul hooked.
You keep doin what you're doin and I'll keep doin what I'm doin! ;D
Read The Journal more closely and you will see I mentioned more than just float fishing. ;D ;D ;D
Anyway you take a fish as while it is taking your offering is what fishing should be all about. ;D ;D
I see people bottom bouncing on the ved a lot lately, I don't think "anyway you take a fish" is ok.
A certain respect for the environment and your surroundings count. I know you are one of the best Chris and am NOT directing this at you, but in my "book" one should adapt their methods of angling to those who are ALREADY at a run - not inconvenience them.
When I read posts in this forum in the summer I saw a lot of folks talk about taking over a bar with barfishing equipment to prevent btm bouncers from fishing there - and I agree with that. Which is why I'm not impressed when "Anyway you can take a fish-guy" comes in with equipment that does not match the other guys fishing there. Case in point was a fellow with about $1500 in fly gear squeezing in between about 4 guys already drifting with floats near prison run. It lasted about 6 minutes and 3 were tangled up and much foul language used. This only happened because the....well you know...
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I wub you too golfman!! ;D
LOL
Nicole
Yikes !! have you seen pics of him yet Nicole ?? lol
I have one he sent me that you might like to see ;)
TH
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stopped by the train bridge 2 weekends ago at the vedder. chuck my line in and realize I'm the only 1 with a float. Man I never had so many lines come flying accross my line getting tangled. Everyone there looked at me like I was crazy for having a float on. I quickly moved on. very sad :o
I've gotta laugh at suggestions that we should all be float fishing simply because one person prefers it. :-\
I've hooked up with over 40 fish in the last 2.5 weeks on blades and all were coho except two jacks. Not one was flossed nor foul hooked.
You keep doin what you're doin and I'll keep doin what I'm doin! ;D
Read The Journal more closely and you will see I mentioned more than just float fishing. ;D ;D ;D
Anyway you take a fish as while it is taking your offering is what fishing should be all about. ;D ;D
Read the postings more closely and you will see it was clearly a later post I was referring to but I'll use this insert feature in future so as not to confuse anyone. My appologies. ;D ;D ;D
And reading that post it's clear who was the "odd man out" and causing all of the frustration for eveyone else.
I switch between both methods and could care less which ever anyone uses. I just wish grown adults would just quit crying like babies about it and spare everyone all this negativity. Just fish somewhere else or find yourselves another pass time and do yourselves a favour.
I've fished all over this country and in areas with the very same issues we're dealing with here and never have I met a bigger bunch of unhappy fishermen on the river.
Why do something that you allow to consistently bring negative energy into one's life? ???
You got issues with illegal fishing practices then expend your enegies where they'll do some good and lobby with your polititians and advocacy groups but spare yourselves the daily negativity and accept that life isn't perfect. Looking for something to complain about everyday is a waste of a life.
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I've gotta laugh at suggestions that we should all be float fishing simply because one person prefers it. :-\
I've hooked up with over 40 fish in the last 2.5 weeks on blades and all were coho except two jacks. Not one was flossed nor foul hooked.
You keep doin what you're doin and I'll keep doin what I'm doin! ;D
Read The Journal more closely and you will see I mentioned more than just float fishing. ;D ;D ;D
Anyway you take a fish as while it is taking your offering is what fishing should be all about. ;D ;D
I see people bottom bouncing on the ved a lot lately, I don't think "anyway you take a fish" is ok.
A certain respect for the environment and your surroundings count. I know you are one of the best Chris and am NOT directing this at you, but in my "book" one should adapt their methods of angling to those who are ALREADY at a run - not inconvenience them.
When I read posts in this forum in the summer I saw a lot of folks talk about taking over a bar with barfishing equipment to prevent btm bouncers from fishing there - and I agree with that. Which is why I'm not impressed when "Anyway you can take a fish-guy" comes in with equipment that does not match the other guys fishing there. Case in point was a fellow with about $1500 in fly gear squeezing in between about 4 guys already drifting with floats near prison run. It lasted about 6 minutes and 3 were tangled up and much foul language used. This only happened because the....well you know...
Just to clarify a bit further, sports angling in my mind means going out using methods to actually intice a fish to bite. Most that are BB ing these days or using long float lines and are working area's like Tamahi Rapids, Limits Hole etc. are not getting the fish to bite. Just go and observe and you will see.
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Just fish somewhere else or find yourselves another pass time and do yourselves a favour.
So to be clear....
If you walk into a small pool and see 5 guys who are drifting with floats, do you:
1) Fish with a float, being in line with the others
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2) Fish a method without a float even if it interferes with the float guys?
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You got issues with illegal fishing practices then expend your enegies where they'll do some good and lobby with your polititians and advocacy groups but spare yourselves the daily negativity and accept that life isn't perfect. Looking for something to complain about everyday is a waste of a life.
Attempting to answer CohoOn statement shown above.
You will be pleased to know we are doing that, you may have missed on a previous thread but 4 of us had a meeting with the Environment Minister last week along with 2 of his staff to just do what you have suggested. As well a number of us have been working on this situation for the last few months. More meetings are on the horizon too.
We and a number of others feel unless some changes are not made we will see more closures like what we all saw on the Fraser River this year.
I agree life is far from perfect but that does not mean one can not try to improve things that many people thinks need changing.
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I've gotta laugh at suggestions that we should all be float fishing simply because one person prefers it. :-\
I've hooked up with over 40 fish in the last 2.5 weeks on blades and all were coho except two jacks. Not one was flossed nor foul hooked.
You keep doin what you're doin and I'll keep doin what I'm doin! ;D
So if you walk into a small run and 5 guys are float fishing, you go ahead and toss in a blade?
I've seen that a few times and all that happens is the blade guy (since the drift is different and he's not using a float) tangles up with the float guys pretty quick. That's a good strategy for making new enemies.
Guys, walk into any tackle shop and just see for yourself all the different techniques and tackle there are to catch fish, many of which
cross over to the same water conditions / locations. Float fishing is not the only way to fish but just one person's decided way of fishing.
I like many of you really like to float fish cause I get a real charge out of seeing my float dip under. I also fly fish,toss blades and spoons, but to make a long story short I like to fish in all conditions and use the gear designed for those condition cause thats what fishing means to me.We all go fishing to catch fish but if one technique doesn't get me bites then I'll switch to one that does.
I have met many,many fishermen who use multi-techniques to fish so to abitrarily single out one method of fishing as the status quo would be denying those fishermen the right to fish. Dennis K , I have fished in amongst floaters with a blade with no consequences and have been successfull , its called waiting your turn to cast so you don't compromise the others technique and you don't necessarily have to fish the same water in the run as others.
Float fishing only... nope... you gotta think outa the "box"
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You're missing my point.
I'll rephrase.
Do you adapt to the others ALREADY in a SMALL pool or push your own way in REGARDLESS if it if interferes with other techniques.?
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Certainly, individuals can try and lobby politicians or join groups to try and make a difference on the river. For instance, can you imagine what a garbage dump the Vedder would be if there were no river cleanup days. It is sad that a bunch of fishermen using questionable fishing tactics can spoil the experience for others. After all the provincial government puts out a detailed fishing reg, detailing what are legal fishing methods, catch limits, and how we should share pools using rotational fishing practises, and on and on. Not making excuses for DFO, or Fish and Wildlife as their resources are stretched to the limit, but I think as a group of responsible fisher people if we would fish responsibly and be respectful of others we meet on the river, it would go a long way to improve everyone's fishing experience.
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Certainly, individuals can try and lobby politicians or join groups to try and make a difference on the river. For instance, can you imagine what a garbage dump the Vedder would be if there were no river cleanup days. It is sad that a bunch of fishermen using questionable fishing tactics can spoil the experience for others. After all the provincial government puts out a detailed fishing reg, detailing what are legal fishing methods, catch limits, and how we should share pools using rotational fishing practises, and on and on. Not making excuses for DFO, or Fish and Wildlife as their resources are stretched to the limit, but I think as a group of responsible fisher people if we would fish responsibly and be respectful of others we meet on the river, it would go a long way to improve everyone's fishing experience.
Thanks for the post.
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They should lower the limit of fish to 2. That should get the snaggers out of there in a cozy 20 mins, and leave the rest of the river alone for the rest of us. I know, you will have double dippers coming back, but at least they have to make a trip home. It's easy to police and how much fish do you need anyway?
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What's wrong with flossing?
My dentist says I should floss every day! ;D ;D
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They should lower the limit of fish to 2. That should get the snaggers out of there in a cozy 20 mins, and leave the rest of the river alone for the rest of us. I know, you will have double dippers coming back, but at least they have to make a trip home. It's easy to police and how much fish do you need anyway?
The limit on sockeyes on the Fraser is 2. Has that deter the snaggers leaving after they got their 2 ? Nope, they just continue fishing and hand their rods to their wives, friends, sons, daughters. >:(
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You're missing my point.
I'll rephrase.
Do you adapt to the others ALREADY in a SMALL pool or push your own way in REGARDLESS if it if interferes with other techniques.?
Do you shoot the basket ball at a court where other people are already playing?
I don't think so.
Any proper fisherman should know how much space he needs to fish and if there is enough space, then yes.
It's all a judgement call.
Any technique can work with any other as long as there is enough space and people have manners.
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Some of you may not want to hear from someone from the United States but I love your area, your rivers, most of your fisherman and your fish.
What amazes me is some fisherman blatantly breaking laws without any fear of arrest. The most obvious thing missing to me is lack of enforcement. In three years of visiting your area I have never seen or knowing talked to a DFO officer. Down here it is common to see them on every trip. Those that break the law where I live do it secretly for fear of being caught. I just returned from my trip and I saw where an individual would hit a Chum with a rock to stop it from flopping while he was taking the hook out. I thought he was going to keep it but he kicked it back into the water. His buddy later threw a Chum toward shore and then when the hook was out kicked the fish back into the water. In both cases a friend and I walked over and tried to revive the fish and eventually they swam off (but for how long). Both, so called fisherman, moved away from us when they saw us do that If there had been a DFO officer around we would gladly have pointed them out.
We all know that rules are not followed unless there is an enforced penalty.
Being new to your area there are different fishing styles than what we are used to. I never knew what flossing was until I came to Canada. I then realized that there are fly fisherman in Idaho flossing huge numbers of steelhead by attaching weight to their lines. I even tired it once and was amazed that I hooked 4 steelhead in 5 casts after fishing for over 2 hour without a bite. It is scary how effective it is. We currently do not have a law against it but I believe it is because the process is relatively unknown here.
After reading this forum I have learned alot about right and wrongs but a new fisherman to your area may see certain individuals catching a lot of fish and unknowingly begin to use an illegal or at least unethical method to catch there fish.
I hope that there is a good, quick solution to solve this but I see little or no hope unless your enforcement is greatly increased.
Hope I didn't step out of bounds by voicing my opinion.
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Good information, this is why a number of us are working on trying to turn the tide.
Interesting information you related about the way some fish with the fly rod. We also have seen Spey rods used to take steelhead in a similar fashion in the Vedder, especially when the steelhead stack up during low water conditions.
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Bigsnag:
Fishing is to try to present your bait or lure to try to get the fish to bite. BB-ing or Flossing is forcing the fish to bite; and often ends up snaging them as well. It defeats the purpose trying to fish a fish...
I do think out of the box. I have said that 3 years ago about flossing and it is not ethical to fish that way. But people called me dumb and try to float fish for sockeye. And I refused to change my way. I have think of different way to improve the way to fish using float, shorter leader, different style of blades (and some blades I use is not even on the market yet and I am testing it out). But if I don't catch a bite, I certainly will not try to go back to flossing or bb-ing.
And FA is right about setting the limit to 2 or even 1... They just drive home and come back again or son/daugther/wife/mom/and dad... Only way it works is fisherman has to write down the catch every single time with length and date; plus the help of DFO issuing a fine...
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You're missing my point.
I'll rephrase.
Do you adapt to the others ALREADY in a SMALL pool or push your own way in REGARDLESS if it if interferes with other techniques.?
Do you shoot the basket ball at a court where other people are already playing?
I don't think so.
Any proper fisherman should know how much space he needs to fish and if there is enough space, then yes.
It's all a judgement call.
Any technique can work with any other as long as there is enough space and people have manners.
Adriaticum - Well put with the gist of my commentary from my post.
Charles - I'm glad you do think outa the box with your discovery of alternate techniques but I don't include flossing as an alternate way to fish, besides we all know that flossed fish don't bite and can we just let the flossing issue rest. It seem that flossing always creeps into rebuttal of others posts.
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You're missing my point.
I'll rephrase.
Do you adapt to the others ALREADY in a SMALL pool or push your own way in REGARDLESS if it if interferes with other techniques.?
Do you shoot the basket ball at a court where other people are already playing?
I don't think so.
Any proper fisherman should know how much space he needs to fish and if there is enough space, then yes.
It's all a judgement call.
Any technique can work with any other as long as there is enough space and people have manners.
So you agree that you adapt.
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What amazes me is some fisherman blatantly breaking laws without any fear of arrest. The most obvious thing missing to me is lack of enforcement. In three years of visiting your area I have never seen or knowing talked to a DFO officer. Down here it is common to see them on every trip. Those that break the law where I live do it secretly for fear of being caught. We all know that rules are not followed unless there is an enforced penalty.
I hope that there is a good, quick solution to solve this but I see little or no hope unless your enforcement is greatly increased.
Maybe our meeting with the Minister is getting some results already, 2 CO trucks and officers were observed working the Chilliwack Vedder yesterday or maybe they read your post. ;D ;D ;D
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I like to fish in all conditions and use the gear designed for those condition cause thats what fishing means to me.We all go fishing to catch fish but if one technique doesn't get me bites then I'll switch to one that does.
I have met many,many fishermen who use multi-techniques to fish so to abitrarily single out one method of fishing as the status quo would be denying those fishermen the right to fish. Dennis K , I have fished in amongst floaters with a blade with no consequences and have been successfull , its called waiting your turn to cast so you don't compromise the others technique and you don't necessarily have to fish the same water in the run as others.
Float fishing only... nope... you gotta think outa the "box"
I was just reading your post... You did not exclude flossing or BB-ing... This is what some fisherman does... Can't get a bite, saw a guy next to him get fish after fish with 6 foot leader and no float, switch and catch fish, then the technique will gain another fan + a few more after that fisherman tells his new fisherman's friends and family members... exactly what you describe - switch to a technique that does work...
I am not trying to put flossing and bb-ing in at any chance. It is how fisherman's thinking that should change... That is what I am trying to say...
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Not this debate again. :-[
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They should lower the limit of fish to 2. That should get the snaggers out of there in a cozy 20 mins, and leave the rest of the river alone for the rest of us. I know, you will have double dippers coming back, but at least they have to make a trip home. It's easy to police and how much fish do you need anyway?
Yeah I agree with that because fish populations would be desimated! since snagging is so much easier to hook a fish. I think that many angler would start doing that and since in the vedder fish limits are 4, say there are 200 anglers a week and all of them keep limits, that would be 800 fish!!!!!! :o Not saying all anglers will do that but still many will
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Maybe this is a tangent, but this year I'm using a hook release which should be quicker and easier on fish than using pliers.
Last year, it took too much time to release fish. It was great in the ocean and this should be perfect for chum's narly teeth.
great forum.
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can u post a pic i know lotsa ppl use gaffs. i hate leaning over the boat trying to shake em with plyers as they flail
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I'm just getting use to the forum. This is about 8 inches long with a small hook. It would be better than a gaff. In the salt, you can lift a fish if you stop it at the eye.
I have a trigger release that I'm testing. I selected a button for insert image but nothing happened. How do you insert pics? ??? ??? ??? ::)