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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Big Steel on December 18, 2006, 06:13:48 PM
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Not quite sure what to think of this movie yet, but I do think that it would be worth a view. We know that Sly is actually a good actor, so maybe this one will be a pleasent surprise. Your thoughts?? :)
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I am dying to see it. I have the whole Rocky collection on DVD. Got two thumbs up by Ebert & Roper.
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Boy he sure looks like an old fart. He must be getting low on funds to make an other one.
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Not a fan of the Rocky series.
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Boy he sure looks like an old fart. He must be getting low on funds to make an other one.
Not even close. He is richer than ever. I can only wish I look as good as he does at his age. Hes in great shape for being 60 years old
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809278368/photo/970418318
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Yo Rocky! I almost took a job down in L.A. to translate Sylvestor Stallone movies into English. Gotta love him.
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This movie is gonna be great , the rocky series was do for a new movie
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I can't wait to see this!
I loved the Rocky movies and when I saw the trailer I was amazed! (I'd not heard there was a new one coming out)
Yeah fair play, he's somehow got in amazing shape for a guy his age, (I seem to remember a few pics in the press where he was looking quite shabby in years gone by).
But who cares, it's Rocky! It's just a great escape for us guys I think (my wife won't entertain the idea of sitting through it) - but I was brought up on this and just take it as it is and enjoy. Good quality macho BS with a big feel good factor - perfect for Xmas!
tight lines,
cheers,
Paul.
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Rocky is right, i'm watchin it! I was flippin through the channels and he was on WWE and he told K-FEd not to wrestle Cena! Cena's gonna kill him! ;D
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Not a fan !
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Big fan also,can't wait! :)They've been playing the older ones on the dish this week,anyone been watching them too?
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http://celebrities.netscape.com/story/2006/11/29/sylvester-stallone-rocky-balboa-born-again/
I think he's made peace with the maker.Next movie he dukes it out with Saint Peter. ::)
Probably using a bigger shoe box to stand on now as well. I heard from an ardent fan that no one gets near him because he's short, and dosen't like people starring him down (those is fighting looks). I liked him in Cliffhanger though.
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I thought the first couple of Rocky movies were good and I`ll probably watch the new movie on DVD..
None of his other movies compare to First Blood. His role of the ex-war vet drifter John Rambo was simply awesome and the scenery from Hope B.C and the surrounding areas always makes it entertaining to watch.
Cheers
Nuggy
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Put Carl Weathers , Mr. T, Dolph Lundgren, that idiot from rocky 5 and stallone all in a ring together and see who wins. MR T guaranteed, and there would only be random shreds of trunks left of all the other guys. HAHA And since when is stallone a good actor? Oh wait....since Cobra... ;D nono wait, Over the top!!! No, possibly it was Judge Dredd! HAHAHA. I laughed so hard when i watched the trailer for the new rocky...they had to digitally remove the sound of his hips clicking from the audio.
This is just the latest in a string of crap remake cash grab hollywood stunts....whats next....Rambo 4: Pearl of the Cobra??? He should just do what all over the hill action stars do and just run for office.
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Put Carl Weathers , Mr. T, Dolph Lundgren, that idiot from rocky 5 and stallone all in a ring together and see who wins. MR T guaranteed, and there would only be random shreds of trunks left of all the other guys. HAHA And since when is stallone a good actor? Oh wait....since Cobra... ;D nono wait, Over the top!!! No, possibly it was Judge Dredd! HAHAHA. I laughed so hard when i watched the trailer for the new rocky...they had to digitally remove the sound of his hips clicking from the audio.
This is just the latest in a string of crap remake cash grab hollywood stunts....whats next....Rambo 4: Pearl of the Cobra??? He should just do what all over the hill action stars do and just run for office.
So you are a fan then??? ;D ;D
Btw, I thought he did an awesome job in Copland. :)
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Not a fan ! because he doesn't have a beard and a leather cap... ::)
;D
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Put Carl Weathers , Mr. T, Dolph Lundgren, that idiot from rocky 5 and stallone all in a ring together and see who wins. MR T guaranteed, and there would only be random shreds of trunks left of all the other guys. HAHA And since when is stallone a good actor? Oh wait....since Cobra... ;D nono wait, Over the top!!! No, possibly it was Judge Dredd! HAHAHA. I laughed so hard when i watched the trailer for the new rocky...they had to digitally remove the sound of his hips clicking from the audio.
This is just the latest in a string of crap remake cash grab hollywood stunts....whats next....Rambo 4: Pearl of the Cobra??? He should just do what all over the hill action stars do and just run for office.
I dont know but its not easy to get two thumbs up from Ebert & Roper. Guys can only dream of being in shape like he is at 60 years old. He is also smarter than most people give him credit for. He was raised being very poor. Wrote the original Rocky script himself and started his road to fame and millions of dollars.
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Put Carl Weathers , Mr. T, Dolph Lundgren, that idiot from rocky 5 and stallone all in a ring together and see who wins. MR T guaranteed, and there would only be random shreds of trunks left of all the other guys. HAHA And since when is stallone a good actor? Oh wait....since Cobra... ;D nono wait, Over the top!!! No, possibly it was Judge Dredd! HAHAHA. I laughed so hard when i watched the trailer for the new rocky...they had to digitally remove the sound of his hips clicking from the audio.
This is just the latest in a string of crap remake cash grab hollywood stunts....whats next....Rambo 4: Pearl of the Cobra??? He should just do what all over the hill action stars do and just run for office.
I dont know but its not easy to get two thumbs up from Ebert & Roper. Guys can only dream of being in shape like he is at 60 years old. He is also smarter than most people give him credit for. He was raised being very poor. Wrote the original Rocky script himself and started his road to fame and millions of dollars.
Hahahah ya right...really difficult to get that coveted thumbs up...if I remember correctly, ANACONDA got two thumbs up! "Theres snakes out there dis big?"--Ice Cubes finest moment in cinematic history. But seriously, if you have seen the trailers how can you not laugh at the prospect of it all and realize that this franchise had jumped the shark long ago. And BS I actually do like stallone for that "dumb guy" charm he exudes..still, no need for this guy to be doing action movies...its like a cry for help :'(
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Well hes doing better than you hey Marmot? Its funny how people put these actors down when they don't even know them. I have met Sly three times in my life. Real nice guy. I guess after working in the movie industry and having my wife still working in the movie industry I just have a different perspective on actors and actresses. Sure they make millions but they are still human.
Marmot I guess you must be in phenomenal shape hey? ::) When was the last time you got offered $10million to do a movie? :P
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Well hes doing better than you hey Marmot? Its funny how people put these actors down when they don't even know them. I have met Sly three times in my life. Real nice guy. I guess after working in the movie industry and having my wife still working in the movie industry I just have a different perspective on actors and actresses. Sure they make millions but they are still human.
Marmot I guess you must be in phenomenal shape hey? ::) When was the last time you got offered $10million to do a movie? :P
I have also met SS.
The company I worked for in 1981/82 made some props for First Blood. During the time in 81 when Stallone was filming the movie he acquired a taste for our Cndn beer and started to get a gut. He started working out at the Astoria boxing club to get back into shape.
I was sparring with boxers and kick boxers at the time and got to know him a little bit. The company I worked for was right across the alley from the Astoria. SS and some of the other staff members would come over to our office and we would order lunch and check out the props. We'd buy and the next time they'd buy.
Back then nice guy. Today I couldn't tell you. All you can do is make a decision by what you see and hear from TV, internet and magazines. He doesn't come across today like he did back then before the fame and fortune.
He sounds like a genetic throwback when he talks but he certainly is a smart guy.
He is also a little guy. I'm 5'11" and I towered over him.
Unfortunately, he looks like a roid monkey now and probably is.
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ROIDS!! Saw him on Leno! Does not look natural at all! What is this 30 years since the original!
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Don't start doing the "Jacko" thing to SS ;D Wonder if he fishes?
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I am not a big fan Of the Rocky movies but I still have a lot of respect for someone that can stay in that shape at the age of sixty.. one question for you experts on human Kinetics out there ... why would you throw out the "ROIDS" remark because someone twice your'e age is in better shape than you ???? pretty serious words to throw around if you don't have proof!! I have been bodybuilding for a long time and I spend a big part of my life training and eating properly, it really pisses me off when people assume I am taking drugs just because I am in good shape !!! a little bit of a rant , but this is a topic that gets to me !
and if you really knew anything about training and health you would realize that his body shows no signs of Drug use ! just a lot of hard work...
TR
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Ya and back in the 80s none of those actors were doing roids either....I mean, COME ON!!
Being in good shape doesnt mean having muscle packed on you like a clydesdale...i mean, it might to you, but to the majority of the population it means regularly exercising, eating right, and not putting crap like cigs or booze in your body to the point of excess. With that in mind I'm a very healthy guy. I think its stupid that Im even asked that question....we're talking about the absurdity of a movie about a 60 yr old boxer making a comeback and people get all defensive about size....rather typical around here.
And BB Im sure he has lots more money than me and can bench more too (whoppeeee)....should that factor into whether i think hes a good actor or whether this movie is going to suck or not? Really, I'd like the answer to that...I don't think I once said he wasn't a "successful" guy...in fact I even admitted to liking the dumb guy charm that he exudes (whether hes actually an intelligent guy or not).
Ya BigSteel....I enjoyed copland, very cool....
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Ya and back in the 80s none of those actors were doing roids either....I mean, COME ON!!
Being in good shape doesnt mean having muscle packed on you like a clydesdale...i mean, it might to you, but to the majority of the population it means regularly exercising, eating right, and not putting crap like cigs or booze in your body to the point of excess. With that in mind I'm a very healthy guy. I think its stupid that Im even asked that question....we're talking about the absurdity of a movie about a 60 yr old boxer making a comeback and people get all defensive about size....rather typical around here.
And BB Im sure he has lots more money than me and can bench more too (whoppeeee)....should that factor into whether i think hes a good actor or whether this movie is going to suck or not? Really, I'd like the answer to that...I don't think I once said he wasn't a "successful" guy...in fact I even admitted to liking the dumb guy charm that he exudes (whether hes actually an intelligent guy or not).
Ya BigSteel....I enjoyed copland, very cool....
so you have proof that these people were doing drugs? you saw them with you're own eyes? the accusations you make and things you assume are pretty heavy charges.. when one has no knoledge or proof one usually keeps their mouth closed
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Dude, Schwarzenegger admitted openly....why you so defensive about the topic??? Im not accusing, its common knowledge that there was alot of steroid abuse among the bodybuilding, wrestling, and acting communities during the 80s when the harm it caused to the human body was unknown....there are enough people that have spoken out about it on documentaries and such that it is not all that crazy to assume that some actors (including the extremely extremely muscular ones) were using drugs to "improve" their physiques. And youre telling me none of them did use drugs? You'd better keep your own mouth closed unless you can prove that!
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Dude, Schwarzenegger admitted openly....why you so defensive about the topic??? Im not accusing, its common knowledge that there was alot of steroid abuse among the bodybuilding, wrestling, and acting communities during the 80s when the harm it caused to the human body was unknown....there are enough people that have spoken out about it on documentaries and such that it is not all that crazy to assume that some actors (including the extremely extremely muscular ones) were using drugs to "improve" their physiques. And youre telling me none of them did use drugs? You'd better keep your own mouth shut unless you can prove that.
If you read my post you will understand why it upsets me, I bust my my friend to look like I look and it pisses me off when morons disregard everything and say it is all about the drugs.. the fact is that drugs have very little to do with how muscular or ripped you look. hard work proper diet and discipline is what it is all about.. the fact that you throw around the "Roids" word is disrespectful and takes away from all the hard work that is put into it.. you say it is not you're thing to look like this.. thats fine but why would you say such stupid comments? I am a personal trainer, and I have a degree in human kinetics, what is you're background that makes you an expert ?
TR
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Dude, Schwarzenegger admitted openly....
so does this mean that Stallone also did it? because another actor used?
And youre telling me none of them did use drugs? You'd better keep your own mouth shut unless you can prove that.
usually the person making the accusation is the one that needs to bring proof , not the person defending a point !
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Rick is absolutely correct. Most guys that use roids are doing so because they want a shortcut and dont want to do what it takes to get the size on naturally. You can still get the size on naturally without using roids its just ten times harder. Assuming someone uses roids without knowing what their diet and exercise routine is just shows what you know.
Yes it is common knowledge that allot of wrestlers use roids and others in the sports world but it does not mean that ALL use them. People that assume is what bothers people like Rick and myself. Sly has the money to hire the best trainers and nutritionists in the business ever think of that?
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"it really pisses me off when people assume I am taking drugs just because I am in good shape !!! a little bit of a rant , but this is a topic that gets to me.."
YOu have to be over 5 foot to be in good shape pinky.. :D :D ;D
T.R.> >:(
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WOW....dont remember ever saying that all wrestlers etc. were on roids....just some, which is a fact that you can't dispute...In fact, if you actually read my post without getting all defensive first you would see that I NEVER said that stallone was using steroids at all....somebody else did and you are putting words in my mouth. What if somebody said that YOU were doing roids? Id be afraid to see how you would take that considering your response here....sure people fling it around recklessly, but who cares?? There are alot worse things you can be accused of than using a little monkey serum. How did this ever get to be about steroid use anyways? I just said I didnt think the dude was a good actor and that the movie was likely to be a joke, seeing as its just another example of hollywood milking franchises beyond their expiration date...somebody else brought up the drugs issue... So to boil it down so I'm no longer misinterpreted:
1 Rocky Balboa = epitome of hollywoods ability to milk a franchise for much more than its worth
2 SOME "stars" from sports/ acting/ wrestling used and continue to use performance enhancing drugs
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Ummm, I seem to remember starting this thread to see what people though of, or if they were going to go see the movie, NOT to have a big argument on Roids!! ::) I have my views on this as well. But don't feel like sharing them on this thread. ;)
Think I might go see the movie, but first the girlfriend wants to go see the movie coming out called, "Perfume". Before you laugh, and call me a pussy, the movie was adapted from a long older novel based in the 18th century. About a serial killer who has a real keen sense of smell, and he makes perfumes. I'll let you fill in the blanks. :o :-\
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Ummm, I seem to remember starting this thread to see what people though of, or if they were going to go see the movie, NOT to have a big argument on Roids!! ::) I have my views on this as well. But don't feel like sharing them on this thread. ;)
Think I might go see the movie, but first the girlfriend wants to go see the movie coming out called, "Perfume". Before you laugh, and call me a pussy, the movie was adapted from a long older novel based in the 18th century. About a serial killer who has a real keen sense of smell, and he makes perfumes. I'll let you fill in the blanks. :o :-\
Meow....
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Perfume is supposed to be really good. I honestly hope that balboa is enjoyable, hollywood lately has been producing so many bad remakes lately that it has probably influenced my and many others expectations of what it will be like.
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why would you throw out the "ROIDS" remark because someone twice you're age is in better shape than you ???? pretty serious words to throw around if you don't have proof!! I have been bodybuilding for a long time and I spend a big part of my life training and eating properly, it really pisses me off when people assume I am taking drugs just because I am in good shape !!! a little bit of a rant , but this is a topic that gets to me !
and if you really knew anything about training and health you would realize that his body shows no signs of Drug use ! just a lot of hard work...
TR
TR,
I have to assume that part of your comments were directed at me since I mentioned Roids.
Just my personal opinion on one person. Don't have to rage about it :D :D Just kidding .
There have been articles written on Stallone and steroids abuse . I will try and find the links and post them.
In the end it's all assumptions but he looks like a roid boy - no different than the WWF, football , baseball boxing (Toney...), UFC (Bonner...) crowd...............
It's a huge problem in high schools. My son works out and we even wondered if he was on the crap based on the shape he's in for his age. And after trips to the doctor and talking to him we are totally convinced it is a result of hard work.
Between boxing, the gym and all the other sports he plays you can't help but be in good shape. To bad all the loser selling that junk know that and take advantage of vulnerable kids.
I've alway wondered how insecure someone has to be to take steroids. So people can look at them and go WOW? In most cases that WOW means, what a freak. And then it's a race to see if your nuts turn into raisins, you die of cancer or a heart attack - which comes first? In the end it's usually all of the above.
Body builders and athletes in general will always go through these assumptions by people because those are the facts. Steroids are widely used and they also eventually widely kill.
To bad people like TR who work their a$$ off, at times get lumped in the same group (by the way I haven't seen anybody on this forum make those comments about you). Get used to it my man because it's not going to change. That why you have broad shoulder, to ignore those type of statements.
As for the movie.
I've heard it's the best Rocky movie since the original.
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Thx for the reply 4X4 .. like I said it was a rant and wasn't even neccessarily aimed at anyone here in particular.. I have heard it my whole life at least since I started seriously competing and it does grow tiresome.. in many shows I have had to go through lie detector tests and urine tests to prove that I am clean.. even showing people these results fails to make them happy it seems.. I guess it does upset me when people assume because this is a huge part of my life and I am proud of what I have accomplished thus far.
Even if someone such as Stalone used supplements to help him along he still had to put a huge effort into getting into the shape that he is in, when someone says " Oh he must be on drugs " it takes away from all the work he has done, jst taking drugs does not a great build make!!
The general public only hears one side of the story,
they hear the fear tactics ,they hear the problems , the fact is that there hasn't been even one death in the last 40 years that has actually been attributed to Steroid use !! most people that do use them ie pro bodybuilders , never even feel some side effects unless they abuse the substance, the public sees idiots like that Valentino guy ( the man whos arms exploded ) and they assume that everyone is like that..
I belong to numerous bodybuilding sites and you would be amazed at how many posts there are by bodybuilders that have to deal with the same stereotypical things every day in their lives also, I just wish that people would do some research and think a little before they write about something they know very little about.. 4X4 in your'e last post alone you would be amazed at how much misinformation you are spreading just by the few small misconceptions regarding steroid use that you made... if you truly did you're research you would find that every comment you made can be proven wrong ..
In the end it is all up to the individual and the risks he/she are willing to take to accomplish their goals, if it is not you're thing then that is fine, just please learn some real facts before you post about it,
TR
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Thx for responding Rick.
I know you understand this issue better than me but I don't buy everything you said. One death in 40 yrs. No way.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/12/19/MNG14AEB7S1.DTL
http://www.coolnurse.com/steroids.htm
http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C10/C10Links/www.tcada.state.tx.us/research/facts/steroids.html
http://www.anabolicsmall.com/steroid_risks.html
Stallone avoided answering questions regarding steroids during a recent interview.
My point is this stuff is really bad and way to many people use it.
Maybe another thread can be started on this subject.
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4X4 you just proved my point by posting those links. there has never been a sanctioned long term study done on " Steroids " not one of those studies was done by a reputable source , they are hear say columns posted by fear mongers..you have to understand that if anything ever happens to someone who takes " Steroids" the first thing people will assume is that the drugs caused it, on one of those sites you posted there is a list of bodybuilders that have So Called circumbed to these drugs, I think there are twenty or so names on there!! do you realize how many hundreds and thousands of bodybuilders there are in this world that takes steroids???? don't you think if they were really that dangerous that here would be more names on this list ?? seriously if you really want to know the truth and not a one sided misallignment of the truth I can give you books and books of literature, belive me 4X4 I make things like this my life and the fears of" Steroids" is one of the most often misconcieved subjects in this little world we call earth ! I am not promoting them in any way and I refuse to use them myself, but just like most things in this world if they are obtained from a safe source and they are not abused they are no more dangerous than any other supplement, I know that sounds crazy but that just shows you how misinformed the world is
TR
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someone just released the dvd illegally in the internet
its totally dvd retail quality
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My bad too! I did say roids! and yes I said it without really thinking too much about it! But he does look over bulked especially in the face area. I would like to see some more recent pics of Stallone over the last couple of years. How long would it take a guy to bulk up like he did for this movie. Probably a good movie but let us all know so that we can rent it when it comes out if it is decent.
Lets not forget baseball and Mr. Bonds! Just weights? I think that we can make a VERY long list of guys who have darkened the bodybulding sport, its not fair, but! ??? Its kind of like anyone using a leader- no I won't go there! ;) Merry Christmas all!
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someone just released the dvd illegally in the internet
its totally dvd retail quality
I don't get it - how can you release a DVD on the internet? You mean someone is selling illegal copies of the DVD?
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"how can you release a DVD on the internet?'
P2P file sharing, and a good way to get some hard drive crippling viruses. Limewire etc.
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saw a trailer for the movie on last nights Jimmy kimmel show and he did not look like he was not in that great of shape ;D :D ;D :D ;) .
Did anyone else see it.
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Sorry to change the topic on roids but I saw the movie yesterday and thought I'd give you my best Siskel and Ebert impression. Thought it was right up there with #4 (with Dolf), not as good as #1, but I hate to report that this one is going to be labeled a chick flick. My wife loved it, but she liked all the others,too. Alot of build-up, the boxing doesn't really start until the third period. Some funny lines. Definitely worth the $25 that a movie, a small popcorn and a pop costs to see a movie now a days.
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Saw the movie and I have to give it a thumbs down. Too many scenes are copied from the first one. You might as well rent the first Rocky movie (which was great) because it's essentially the same story, only in this one he's way older. I'll give it 2 out of 5.
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Haven't seen it yet - but interesting interview with sly to watch on http://video.sympatico.msn.com/v/en-ca/v.htm?g=b0fbce21-0d0d-48fc-82b0-ca3f0430ea6c&f=imbot_en-ca&fg=rss
Also, he says he's making RAMBO again! Here we go.... Rambo and his rocket launching wheel chair?!?