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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Long_Cast on October 15, 2006, 12:20:51 PM

Title: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Long_Cast on October 15, 2006, 12:20:51 PM
What's a proven vedder rig that works excellent for Vedder River right now? Also, what's a suitable hook size?
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on October 15, 2006, 12:34:10 PM
Roe and different wool combos will do the trick, Also blades are a good bet! size 2 or 4 should be good if you are targeting coho ;)
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Long_Cast on October 15, 2006, 12:39:59 PM
I have some fresh salmon roe which is orange coloured and the size of a large pea. Also, I have some jensen eggs in various colours and some goey bobs. The only wool I have in my tackle box is a peach coloured wool. What about weight type, leader length, and floats, etc...
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on October 15, 2006, 12:44:49 PM
For weight wise you use about an inch of pencil lead or some spilt shots. As for leader anywhere from 16-24 inches should be ok ;)
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Long_Cast on October 15, 2006, 12:48:00 PM
Thanx for the quick replies. Should I use a float for the current conditions? Also, how should I tie the wool on the hook?
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on October 15, 2006, 12:51:14 PM
Yes use a float ;D Try different depths, If you find your weight is hitting bottom then put your float down a little so you are about a foot off bottom. Have you heared of the "egg loop", It is a type of knot which allows you to fish with roe and wool.
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Ribwart on October 15, 2006, 12:51:32 PM
the egg loop knot....also called the snell knot, I think, I can't remember I haven't checked this out in some time...hope this link works...
http://www.animatedknots.com/snell/index.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com#

if it doesn't look up egg loop knot on the net, you should find it...it is a staple knot for river fishers...good luck,
rib
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Youngin on October 15, 2006, 12:57:23 PM
Yes with the float.. and for the wool.. tie a bait loop and insert the wool there..
http://www.steelheader.net/knots/bait_loop_tying.htm
http://www.fish4fun.com/snell.htm
(or snell knot) might be a little easier as rib already noted
hope this helps!
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Long_Cast on October 15, 2006, 12:58:23 PM
I have tried tying the egg loop but only with a small #6 hook with little success. I feel more comfortable with a palomar knot. I'm just wonder if the wool must be shaped like an egg on the hook? The reason is that when you place it under water the wool won't keep its shape.
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Youngin on October 15, 2006, 01:00:40 PM
I like to keep my wool small.. then I just fold it until it's even on both sides and put it through the loop
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Long_Cast on October 15, 2006, 01:12:27 PM
I'm gonna buy a new rod too. What rod length and type is suitable for the vedder? Currently, I have a Abu Garcia 6 foot medium action Conolon rod with an Ambassaduer 5500 C3 reel spooled with 12 lb test Diawa Samurai Green line - will this largemouth bass fishing setup take the Vedder?
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Ribwart on October 15, 2006, 01:15:35 PM
A 10ft drift rod in medium action is a good all purpose rod....that 6 footer would be a little short....the reel should be ok though...
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: MERC on October 15, 2006, 01:20:10 PM
If you're driftfishing (with a float.  Most common method on the Vedder), you will want to get a long rod. 10' 6" is the standard.  The extra length will keep your line off the water and give you better control over your drift.  Also, the extra length will give you leverage needed to set the hook.  Price wise you can pay from as low as $40 and up.  But you also get what you pay for.  Look to spend 100-150 for a good quality rod depending on your finances.  Shimano Convergence, Berkely Canadian Specialist, Fenwick HMX are all good value priced rods that will serve you well.  I'm sure others can give you more input on rods.
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Long_Cast on October 15, 2006, 01:33:42 PM
Thanx to everyone for all the advice.  ;D
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on October 15, 2006, 06:12:05 PM
short float is the best way with fresh roe,wool,blades Please do not use a huge weight with 6 feet of leader and a monster hook , and at the end of your drift dont rip your line like the rest of the clowns out there, at my spot yesterday all around me was that nasty sound of rip,rip,rip everywhere after about 4 hours of hearing nothing but ripping you get a little annoyed
I hate rippers, it spooks the cupcakes outa the pool :-X
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Floater on October 15, 2006, 07:04:51 PM
My most proven rig on the vedder is no doubt the JIG! i dont use it as much as i wish too cuz you gotta find the right water, as i find the best results come fishing it without a float. I used to mainly use it for pinks and i would get hook up after hook up (NO FOUL HOOK UPS!) while others around me get nothing. Just this weekend i went to a new system and found a nice pool where fish were jumping like mad but blades and wool did nothing, so i decide to give the jig a go for a laugh. I was laughing even harder when i had about a 2 pound wild Ho on the line ;D. As the jig gods would have it i lost the jig on the next cast and had no other hook ups. >:(
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Ribwart on October 15, 2006, 07:12:48 PM
ya jigs are good rigs!  :D
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Long_Cast on October 15, 2006, 07:26:06 PM
When fishing with jigs at the Vedder do you add bait on the jig or do you fishing it without bait? I'm really want to try out my Foxee jigs if everything else fails.
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 15, 2006, 07:30:34 PM
Generally without but you can add a prawn tail for a change of pace.
Title: Re: Proven Vedder rigs
Post by: Floater on October 15, 2006, 10:28:05 PM
When fishing with jigs at the Vedder do you add bait on the jig or do you fishing it without bait? I'm really want to try out my Foxee jigs if everything else fails.
No i dont put any bait on them dont see the need to either but i am considering scenting them next trip.