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Title: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 22, 2006, 10:33:36 PM
On the sockeye conference call tonight there will be another week of recreational sockeye activity.

Next Tuesday will most likely determine the closing date.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: firstlight on August 23, 2006, 09:04:17 AM
YEHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: liketofish on August 23, 2006, 04:05:29 PM
Chris, do you mean it will close by next Tuesday, or you mean they will decide on next Tuesday when they will close it? Who are these folks telling you the news on the conference call? DFO officials?
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Fishin Freak on August 23, 2006, 04:27:45 PM
Well if that's the case the earliest close would be either thursday or friday next week.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: avid angler on August 23, 2006, 05:18:11 PM
i think it will close after labour day.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 23, 2006, 09:25:00 PM
Chris, do you mean it will close by next Tuesday, or you mean they will decide on next Tuesday when they will close it? Who are these folks telling you the news on the conference call? DFO officials?
Next conference call between recreational anglers rep's and FOC is on the 29th that will most likely announce the closing date that I believe will be the 5th. Will try to keep you updated.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: funfisher on August 23, 2006, 10:19:28 PM
Thanks for keeping us up to date Chris :)
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: pepsitrev on August 24, 2006, 03:40:14 PM
(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/balloons.gif)(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/cheers2.gif) thanks chris guess i better get some fish in the frezzer before then. good work on keeping us posted(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/notebook.gif) now i can sleep better(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/bedtime2.gif)
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: TrophyHunter on August 24, 2006, 03:45:22 PM
pepsitrov I think you have too many smilies lol  ;D
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 24, 2006, 04:01:46 PM
On the sockeye conference call tonight there will be another week of recreational sockeye activity.

Next Tuesday will most likely determine the closing date.

And then we'll all be able to get a break from all the fun and games until a month before the NEXT opening  ::)
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Old Black Dog on August 24, 2006, 04:12:40 PM
Hey Chris, they just got a 110,000 in a test fishery in area 12. :o

Don't plan to close the river anytime soon. ;D
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 24, 2006, 04:41:18 PM
Hey Chris, they just got a 110,000 in a test fishery in area 12. :o

Don't plan to close the river anytime soon. ;D

Last time it was when the Thompson Coho started showing.  Closed!
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 24, 2006, 10:11:35 PM
Hey Chris, they just got a 110,000 in a test fishery in area 12. :o

Don't plan to close the river anytime soon. ;D
I got a coho bar fishing a few years ago above the Vedder (proper name Sumas River at that point) confluence with the Fraser on August 30. She will be closing for sockeye no later than September the 5th when school checks in and the flow can get somewhat back to normal again. ;D ;D

It will be time also to get out and cleanup the miles of line and garbage left by the sockeye crowd. :( :-[ I wonder how many will be going to the bars they fished to do so?
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: wagz on August 25, 2006, 09:03:11 AM
I will be out filling the boat with line, as we did last year, I think I am still sorting through the mess to see what is re-usable!
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 25, 2006, 09:38:36 AM
I will be out filling the boat with line, as we did last year, I think I am still sorting through the mess to see what is re-usable!
Thanks.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 27, 2006, 08:59:08 PM
Thanks for keeping us up to date Chris :)
Latest info today says Sept.5. Will confirm Tuesday night if possible.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: rickjames_2 on August 28, 2006, 07:49:51 AM
i was sure that the board would decide to close the sox on the 5th but hub sports is telling me it will likely be the 10th. anybody else hear of this projection cause it is certainly news to me...
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Old Black Dog on August 28, 2006, 08:48:46 AM
There are THOUSANDS more coming.
It will be interesting to see what the do.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 28, 2006, 11:09:46 AM
There are THOUSANDS more coming.
It will be interesting to see what the do.
It will be, as the endagered Thompson River Coho will be entering the Fraser River very soon.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Old Black Dog on August 28, 2006, 12:31:33 PM
Remember there is a % that they can catch of the Coho.
Further if they are as all the other runs this year, late they may extend the closure.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Fishin Freak on August 28, 2006, 03:44:32 PM
There are THOUSANDS more coming.
It will be interesting to see what the do.
More like there are many MILLIONS more coming. Out of the total run size this year not even 1/4 have made it through the river yet.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 28, 2006, 04:15:08 PM
I am thinking maybe most people have caught enought by now but then I have not caught any yet. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Eagleye on August 28, 2006, 05:27:38 PM
i was sure that the board would decide to close the sox on the 5th but hub sports is telling me it will likely be the 10th. anybody else hear of this projection cause it is certainly news to me...

There is a notice for the Fraser in region 3 stating sockeye is open until the 10th.

RECREATIONAL - Salmon

Subject:    FN0662-Recreational Salmon: Sockeye & Chinook - Region 3 - Fraser River - Opportunity
------------------------------------------------------------------------



Open to Sockeye and Chinook August 13 to September 10 from 05:00 hrs to 21:00
hrs daily. In the waters of the Fraser River from the confluence of Fraser /
Seton Rivers downstream to the fishing boundary signs located on both sides of
the river approximately 4km downstream of the town of Lillooet:

Combined daily limit 4 salmon
2 sockeye per day
4 chinook per day only 1 over 50cm fork length.

Variation Order No. 2006-385

Sport anglers are reminded to participate in the voluntary Salmon Sport Head
Recovery program by labelling and submitting heads from adipose fin-clipped
Chinook Salmon. Recovery of coded-wire tags from adipose fin-clipped chinook
salmon provides critical information for coast wide stock assessment. For
program information and head depot locations contact the voluntary Salmon Sport
Head Recovery Program at 1-866-483-9994 or www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish.


FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Dean Allan 250-851-4821
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: goblin59 on August 28, 2006, 06:09:23 PM
Yeah, but that's region 3..... doesn't apply to us down here.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: FISHIN MAGICIAN on August 28, 2006, 06:32:28 PM
There are THOUSANDS more coming.
It will be interesting to see what the do.
It will be, as the endagered Thompson River Coho will be entering the Fraser River very soon.

Hey Chris..I have an interesting piece of info for you that I'd not like to divulge on this board...how do I get ahold of you? Not a subscriber to FWR, but I'd love to message you the info.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 28, 2006, 07:05:19 PM
Thanks, got it. Interesting info.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: pepsitrev on August 28, 2006, 09:12:42 PM
thanx for all the info and reports you guys thats what makes this board so nice to a member of keep up the good work chris.(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/gentleman.gif)
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Bonanza on August 29, 2006, 12:11:09 AM
Berrys says it will be open to the 10th also. Checked the fraser panel report from the24th and it looks good. Was at peg Fri to Mon and fish are starting to come thru in decent numbers now.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: bigguy on August 29, 2006, 02:55:25 PM
They have been coming through in decent numbers for a few weeks by what I have seen and read!  Hope it stays that way! For at least a couple more days.  What about commercial openings??
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: GoldHammeredCroc on August 29, 2006, 03:19:11 PM
Opening today so I hear... Hopefully not too much of a dent in their progress, but it would be nice to see the Commercial guys get a better price for what they catch. 
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 29, 2006, 05:24:10 PM
Once again, update coming tonight. :-\ now.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Old Black Dog on August 29, 2006, 05:28:51 PM
Category(s):
ABORIGINAL - General Information,
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net,
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Seine,
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Troll,
RECREATIONAL - Salmon

Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0803-Salmon: Fraser River Sockeye Update - August 29 - Areas 11 to 29

The Fraser River Panel met today and reviewed stock assessment data on the
Fraser sockeye runs and considered harvest opportunities. Test fishing catches
by purse seine vessels in Johnstone Strait were very high last week indicating
a strong migration of sockeye through this marine approach route. The diversion
rate of Fraser sockeye through Johnstone Strait is presently estimated to be
approximately 94%. The escapement of sockeye into the Fraser River is
continuing at a steady pace and so far the majority of observed fish are in
good condition.

The estimated run size of 1,700,000 Early Summer-run sockeye, which is
approximately 30% higher than the 50% probability level forecast, was unchanged
at the meeting today.  There are indications though that the run size could be
somewhat less than 1.7 million. The estimated escapement of Early Summer-run
sockeye past Mission through August 28 is 755,000 fish or 66% of the gross
escapement target.

The low abundance of Summer-run sockeye this season is primarily attributable
to the extreme weakness in the Quesnel sockeye run to-date, which were expected
to dominate Summer-run sockeye returns but instead are estimated to be
returning at about much less than their forecast level of abundance.  At the
meeting today the estimated run size of Summer-run sockeye was decreased from
3,500,000 to 2,500,000. The 50% passage timing of Summer-run sockeye through
Area 20 is presently estimated to be approximately August 17, or 8 days later
than the forecast of August 9. The estimated escapement of Summer-run sockeye
past Mission through August 28 is 802,000 fish or 28% of the gross escapement
goal.

Late-run sockeye now comprise from 70% to 80% of the Fraser River sockeye
currently migrating through the marine assessment areas.  At the meeting today,
the Late run size estimate of 10,000,000 remains unchanged. The gulf troll test
fishery started on August 22 and will provide data used in assessing the delay
behavior of Late-run sockeye in the lower Strait of Georgia. The estimated
escapement of Late-run sockeye past Mission through August 28 is 810,000 fish
or 13% of the gross escapement target.

The water temperature of the Fraser River measured at Qualark Creek was 18.8 C
from August 23-26, before falling and holding at 18.6 C for the last two days. 
The current forecast calls for the temperature to drop to 17.5 C by August 31,
then increase back up to 18.8 C by September 5.  These temperature levels
remain above the long term average for this period from 1-2 C for these dates.
The discharge of the Fraser River is presently about 1,640 cms, and is forecast
to drop below 1,500 cms by September 6 setting new record lows along the way.

The management adjustment for Summer run sockeye was decreased slightly today
as a result of the improved actual temperatures and lower temperature
forecast.  At a run size of 2.5 million the management adjustment for Summer
runs would be 78,000. Environmental conditions will continue to be assessed and
management adjustments to escapements past Mission will be changed as required
to help ensure spawning targets are achieved.

At the Summer run size of 2.5 million fisheries will need to be constrained to
minimize impacts on this stock.   At current run size on Late run sockeye and
including projected catches in Canada and United States catch level to date it
is estimated that the Cultus sockeye exploitation rate is about 23%.  This
would leave a small balance of about 296,000 Lates remaining available for
harvest within Canada if we are not to exceed the 30% Cultus Lake sockeye
exploitation rate limitation identified in the 2006 fishing plan.

First Nations:

First Nations targeted Fraser River sockeye fisheries in the Fraser River and
South Coast marine waters are expected to continue this week.

Recreational:
 
Recreational fisheries for sockeye in South Coast marine waters and the Fraser
River above Mission remain open to sockeye retention.

Commercial:

Area D gill nets extended in Johnstone Strait until Wednesday August 30, (see
FN0802 for details).  In addition Area E gill net will close as scheduled
tonight at 7 pm (see FN0804 for details).

The Panel will meet again on Friday September 1 to evaluate the status of the
Fraser River sockeye salmon runs and to consider regulatory actions.


Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Old Black Dog on August 29, 2006, 05:40:32 PM
Category(s):
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net

Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0804-Commercial Salmon: Gillnet - Area E - Fraser River Sockeye - Update

The Area E Fraser River Gill net fishery will close as scheduled today at 19:00
hrs.  The Fraser River Panel met today to review the progress of Fraser River
sockeye returns.  Considerations for further fisheries will be based on
available Late Run abundances with low proportions of Summer Run stock
proportions prior to the Sept 5 Lower River Coho closure. 

For more information refer to FN0803 - today's Fraser River Sockeye Update for
Areas 11 to 29. 

The next update on Fraser River sockeye status will be provided PM Fri Sept 1
following the scheduled Fraser Panel meeting. 


Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 29, 2006, 07:35:48 PM
Category(s):
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net

Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0804-Commercial Salmon: Gillnet - Area E - Fraser River Sockeye - Update

 Late Run abundances with low proportions of Summer Run stock
proportions prior to the Sept 5 Lower River Coho closure. 

For more information refer to FN0803 - today's Fraser River Sockeye Update for
Areas 11 to 29. 

The next update on Fraser River sockeye status will be provided PM Fri Sept 1
following the scheduled Fraser Panel meeting. 



This almost reads as the Fraser will close Sept. 5th due to coho concerns?
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Old Black Dog on August 29, 2006, 08:00:45 PM
It will depend on IF there is a concern. ???
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 29, 2006, 08:32:43 PM
Well I was out by one day as it ends, one hour after sunset on the 6th.
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: chris gadsden on August 29, 2006, 08:41:38 PM
I hit it right on, said Sept. 06/06
I buy the bubbly. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sockeye Closing Date
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 29, 2006, 09:52:13 PM
No big surprise. DFO have been opening it on the Aug. long weekend and closing after Labour Day weekend the past few years.