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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Floater on November 10, 2005, 06:25:57 PM

Title: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Floater on November 10, 2005, 06:25:57 PM
Going out to the cap tommorow to test out some D.N.E hooks. Just gotta make sure the ban has been lifted a while ago right?
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Post by: Fish Assassin on November 10, 2005, 06:37:05 PM
Bait ban lifted as of Nov. 1
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Floater on November 10, 2005, 08:01:09 PM
Too lazy to look this up but allowe me to take another guess, 4 hatch coho only?
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Post by: Fish Assassin on November 10, 2005, 08:02:15 PM
Yup
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Post by: Floater on November 10, 2005, 08:03:39 PM
K thx i hope i get to post some fish porn tommorow. :P
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Post by: Floater on November 10, 2005, 08:05:17 PM
Any springs still in there?
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Post by: Fish Assassin on November 10, 2005, 08:06:43 PM
If there are, it's probably not worth keeping at this time of year.
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Post by: Floater on November 10, 2005, 08:07:43 PM
Figured that much.
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Post by: Rodney on November 10, 2005, 10:13:44 PM
Too lazy to look this up but allowe me to take another guess, 4 hatch coho only?

I'm sorry, that's pathetic. Your inability to spell can be excused. Choosing to be ignorant, well goes against just about everything that this website preaches.

It's not difficult, with all the tools made available to the anglers to get the information.

Salmon regulations for the Cap can be found in Region 2 freshwater salmon regulations (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Freshwater/region2_e.htm). General regulations for the Cap such as bait ban period can be found in Region 2 freshwater regulations (http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/pdf/region_2.pdf). These links and other information are also readily available in the Lower Mainland weekly fishing report under the Capilano section (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishing_report/lower_mainland.html).

Too lazy? Good excuse.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: HereFishyFishy on November 10, 2005, 10:32:00 PM
Ha, you felt the wrath of rod.
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Post by: GoldHammeredCroc on November 10, 2005, 10:32:53 PM
Might just want to check what the water is doing since the air temp has melted much of the snow in the Capilano valley.

This picture is close to 9 am:
http://216.132.24.61/capcam/images/09.jpg

This picture is as of 5 pm:
http://216.132.24.61/capcam/images/16.jpg

Make sure you are aware of water levels at all times.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Floater on November 10, 2005, 11:06:41 PM
Too lazy to look this up but allowe me to take another guess, 4 hatch coho only?

I'm sorry, that's pathetic. Your inability to spell can be excused. Choosing to be ignorant, well goes against just about everything that this website preaches.

It's not difficult, with all the tools made available to the anglers to get the information.

Salmon regulations for the Cap can be found in Region 2 freshwater salmon regulations (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Freshwater/region2_e.htm). General regulations for the Cap such as bait ban period can be found in Region 2 freshwater regulations (http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/pdf/region_2.pdf). These links are other information are also readily available in the Lower Mainland weekly fishing report under the Capilano section (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishing_report/lower_mainland.html).

Too lazy? Good excuse.
WoW im sorry you feel that way rodney if no one wanted to help me they wouldn't. Also does this website preach how a person should live his life? I dont see how i deserve a bitching at by making a simple choice that affects no one on this website. Im sorry you feel im some kinda lazy bugger when like you i do get up early every day for work, and i do go without a week of rest, wake up and go fishing with no or very little sleep. One there thing.You would rather have me go out on the cap and have no idea about the regs?, you should be happy i was ignorant enough to find out. 8)
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: JiG_Head on November 10, 2005, 11:29:46 PM
Too lazy to look this up but allowe me to take another guess, 4 hatch coho only?

I'm sorry, that's pathetic. Your inability to spell can be excused. Choosing to be ignorant, well goes against just about everything that this website preaches.

It's not difficult, with all the tools made available to the anglers to get the information.

Salmon regulations for the Cap can be found in Region 2 freshwater salmon regulations (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Freshwater/region2_e.htm). General regulations for the Cap such as bait ban period can be found in Region 2 freshwater regulations (http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/pdf/region_2.pdf). These links are other information are also readily available in the Lower Mainland weekly fishing report under the Capilano section (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishing_report/lower_mainland.html).

Too lazy? Good excuse.
WoW im sorry you feel that way rodney if no one wanted to help me they wouldn't. Also does this website preach how a person should live his life? I dont see how i deserve a bitching at by making a simple choice that affects no one on this website. Im sorry you feel im some kinda lazy bugger when like you i do get up early every day for work, and i do go without a week of rest, wake up and go fishing with no or very little sleep. One there thing.You would rather have me go out on the cap and have no idea about the regs?, you should be happy i was ignorant enough to find out. 8)

Ooooo we have a cheeky one here ;).... lol ME!
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Rodney on November 10, 2005, 11:37:27 PM
You would rather have me go out on the cap and have no idea about the regs?

You missed the point, as always.

If someone from out of town who is asking regulations on this forum, people would provide the information, just like others who have done above in this thread.

You on the other hand, are a local who have been fishing here regularly. You should not have an excuse for not being able to find the regulations yourself. For you to come here and ask others to find the information for you simply because you are lazy but well aware of where to get it yourself, that's how ignorance was defined.

What does this website preach?

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/about_us.html

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Fishing with Rod is an online angling magazine based in British Columbia, Canada. We cater anglers of all ages, races and skill levels. It was launched in May, 2001 and has been one of the more popular fishing websites in BC. Our objectives are to keep you updated with the latest information on fishing condition, current fishing-related issues and fishing-related events. We devote half of our effort on fishing and the other half on conservation.

Im sorry you feel im some kinda lazy bugger when like you i do get up early every day for work, and i do go without a week of rest, wake up and go fishing with no or very little sleep.

You missed another point, again. My previous post was aimed at the comment that you made earlier:

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Too lazy to look this up but allowe me to take another guess

If every angler chooses to be lazy and second guess on the regulations, what would happen?

You misinterpreted my reply by thinking that I am generalizing your overall way of life as a lazy one. You missed the point.

What really ticked me off in your comment was, you're now representing a sportfishing retail outlet, and one of your duties is to make sure anglers who come in the shop, experienced or not, are outfitted with the correct equipment and information. You don't need to know all the regulations, but you SHOULD know where to get it from, and know that you SHOULD read it before going out. Fish Assassin and birdman may provide you what regulations they know or what regulations they think they know, but do you believe all second hand information you read on the internet?

This website and I are not telling you how you should live your life, but how you should conduct as a responsible angler. However you want to behave out there, is up to you in the end. If you want to second guess the regulations instead of making the effort to read it yourself, then you'll have to live with the consequences.

Not long ago, as I recall, you were rather vocal about how DFO enforcement is not effective when it comes to reducing the number of fishery violations:

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8608.msg79717#msg79717

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8608.msg79730#msg79730

What gives you the ground to criticize the solutions of the problem (with a list of misinformation by the way), when you have demonstrated that you choose to be part of that problem?

The point of this post and the previous one are, fishery regulations are readily available for people to view. They are even sorted out to individual systems to prevent confusion. It takes five minutes to be informed, make good use of what's available, instead of whining about what's not.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Uncivil on November 10, 2005, 11:48:00 PM
Well said Rod.  Floater you just got hoisted on your own petard!  Translated " you just hooked yourself in the A**"
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Straight Runner on November 11, 2005, 12:13:37 AM
Dont let it bother you Floater. We still like having you around. It would be duller without you.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Floater on November 11, 2005, 02:20:52 PM
Yes yes rodney point taken but i think you assume too much. I have read the regulations for the cap a bit back and i did know them in the back of my head but wasant sure about a few details. All the responses i got were exactly what i remembered so i could take the second hand information. I also think you are making a bid deal out of this especially questioning my works ethics. Thats getting a little too personal.
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Post by: No_way on November 11, 2005, 02:33:27 PM
DING! DING!  Fighters return to your corners.  ::)
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Floater on November 11, 2005, 02:52:53 PM
Fights over! but that wound will never heal mentioning personal stuff over NOTHING!
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Rodney on November 11, 2005, 03:17:43 PM
Personal? There's nothing personal on the items that I brought up. It's not personal as I don't know you. My previous post already indicated that your personal life is not being assumed and judged in this case, but if you choose to interpreted that way then I can't help ya.

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You misinterpreted my reply by thinking that I am generalizing your overall way of life as a lazy one.

How you conduct yourself in your everyday life is your own business, but when I see an action that may jeopardize the fish and angling sector, I'll point it out. what's there to be hurt about? Take them as advices, just like I have done when someone points out my own flaws in the past. You learn as you go along.

The words may seem harsh, but let's look at this from a different perspective. I don't type up all that spew just for the sake of argument. The previous post probably took a good 20 minutes to finish. Why do I bother to stir things up and possibly drive people away from my own forum (basically risking my own business) by pointing out your wrongs? I could have simply left it as it is, assuming that you have no hope in the learning department and get on with my life. In this case, I chose otherwise. Because you have come here and let the cyber fishing community (you will be very surprised to know who actually read these forums in the industry) know where you are working now, you should be a bit more careful on how you conduct yourself when it comes to regulations. You will have a stronger influence because you will come in contact with more anglers than many others. Therefore I thought it was important to point that out.

I have read the regulations for the cap a bit back and i did know them in the back of my head but wasant sure about a few details. All the responses i got were exactly what i remembered so i could take the second hand information.

That wasn't the point. Although the regulations that others told you were exactly what you thought they would be, you should have read them first hand yourself. Instead, you were "Too lazy to look this up but allowe me to take another guess". That comment really ticked me off last night because it came from someone who has questioned DFO's ability to enforce. It ticked me off because I firmly believe this resource can only get better if both parties (anglers and DFO) work together and do their jobs.

Would you rather have a customer storming back to the store and yelling at you for providing the wrong regulations? Or would you want to take the points now and read it yourself instead of second guessing?

It's not a popularity/pissing contest. If this forum loses members when the moderators become outspoken on a particular issue then that's the price I will pay. If it makes 20 more people aware of the regulations before heading out, then I am getting my money worth.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Floater on November 11, 2005, 04:02:05 PM
Yes Yes rodney as allways your right. That being said i still think im allways the one who you seem to take this forums frustrations out on just like the times before that im sure you remember so no point mentioning it. I dont know if you just think im ignorant and arrogant because im young, or if you really think im the only one who couses problems on this forum.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: HARLEY on November 11, 2005, 07:30:30 PM
Hey Guys Welcome To The Main Event--This sounds just like me and another person on another forum-Way To Go-Sure hope that my spelling is OK-I would really hate to get anyone excited-Hope I didn`t ofend anyone!

harley
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Post by: Nina on November 11, 2005, 10:49:37 PM
Yes Yes rodney as allways your right. That being said i still think im allways the one who you seem to take this forums frustrations out on just like the times before that im sure you remember so no point mentioning it. I dont know if you just think im ignorant and arrogant because im young, or if you really think im the only one who couses problems on this forum.

Rodney is not out to get you, but because you seem a bit more outspoken than most, you end up taking the heat. Let it roll off your back and take it as a learning experience. You seem willing to learn and have become better at expressing your opinions in the short time you have been on the forum. I think that is great.   :)

Just remember that everything you say has consequences and you have to be able to deal with that too.

Besides, I know how you feel, I hate arguing with Rodney. See, what I have to put up with?  ::)  ;D
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Post by: phatwop on November 11, 2005, 10:57:42 PM
Yes yes rodney point taken but i think you assume too much. I have read the regulations for the cap a bit back and i did know them in the back of my head but wasant sure about a few details. All the responses i got were exactly what i remembered so i could take the second hand information. I also think you are making a bid deal out of this especially questioning my works ethics. Thats getting a little too personal.

Just stick to first hand info and you will do alright. second hand info has to be taken carefully.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: DionJL on November 11, 2005, 10:57:45 PM
you should dump rod and go out with TroutSlayer. he wants you. lmao.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Nina on November 12, 2005, 12:00:20 AM
I'll consider it  ;)

I know troutslayer has a thing for older women  ;D
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Post by: Rodney on November 12, 2005, 12:06:11 AM
::)

(http://www.tshirthell.com/images/contestpics/a241_003.jpg)
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Post by: mooch on November 12, 2005, 01:22:51 PM
Rod is right on. You could easily have looked up the reg in the 20 minutes that you waited for others to reply to your lazy my friend questions. Before you spilled the beans on working at A&N you were simply known amongst my buds as that goofy guy, but after this you're known as the goof who works at A&N. You need to take a lesson from allwaysfishin' and the fellow from Reaction tackles and represent your woirk place with dignity and professionalism. You really have to watch what you post because everyone knows you are now associated with A&N.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Floater on November 12, 2005, 01:50:04 PM
Mooch i think you forget when i come home after i punch out im no longer representing A&N. Also you can tell your buds i could care less if they think of me as the goofy guy. You and them are just proving my point of being ignorant and judging a person without even knowing him. Do you really think you know me from posting on a forum i laugh at that.
Title: Re: Cap no more bait ban?
Post by: Rodney on November 12, 2005, 05:03:15 PM
Are you not aware of the people who have been fired due to their blogs in North America?
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Post by: Floater on November 12, 2005, 05:23:12 PM
Yes i do, and i think this thread needs to be closed because im done it before someone pushes too far.
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Post by: Rodney on November 12, 2005, 05:46:29 PM
Agreed. Despite of our differences, I still think floater is one of the guys who have a very good personality (nice, funny (someone who you both laugh with and at ;D , etc) and with some help he'll do great. Cheers.