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Title: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: joedavis on November 09, 2004, 06:22:47 PM
There is a huge black bear at Norrish Creek so be extra careful! I saw the bear as I was walking up river from the train bridge. It was only twenty yards away, and luckily for me it took off into the bush. Also talked to two others who saw it as they were coming back from the upper end. One of the guys said the bear was so big that it scared the living daylights out of him.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: The_Roe_Man on November 09, 2004, 06:53:56 PM
how was the fishing.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: joedavis on November 09, 2004, 07:07:27 PM
Landed and released a couple of tomatoes. One fella killed a real ripe tomato and another guy killed a bronzie. Was good last week but slim pickings at the moment. The water was dropping quickly so it won't be any good until it rains again.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Rodney on November 10, 2004, 05:37:25 PM
birdman, Stave, Chehalis, Nicomen, and other systems on the north side of Fraser will all have coho in November and early December. It comes down to whether you can find them or not. Getting into them will not be as frequent as October, but some walking etc will increase your chance. Good luck. And watch out for that big bear, we want to see you back here after your birthday. :)
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: clarki on November 10, 2004, 09:08:26 PM
For the past several years that I have been fishing Norrish, the amount of bear sign has been astounding. Piles of corn laden my smelly socks, criss crossing paths worn in the grass (in fact the trail we walk in is not made by humans), and scores of mostly consumed chum yarded up on the bank, or relatively whole fish with teeth puncture wounds. My son and I came across his prints on Sunday in the sand and they were as large as my palm.  I started to take notice after that and was a tad on edge as we made our way out a little too past dusk. Call me a Nervous Nellie but I did check the position of my knife on my belt on at least one occasion.

Have only ever seen one at Norrish once though. Three years ago we were walking in at daybreak and saw this very large black Labrador dog humping it across the corn field toward the treeline. 'That's a big dog' I thought 'and it's running awfully funny-like ' Of course, the 'dog' turned into the very same trail that we were going to take. I think I checked my knife on that occasion too.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Rodney on November 10, 2004, 09:30:38 PM
.....very large black Labrador dog humping it across the corn field.....

Say what? :o Had to read that twice. :)

Come on, quit scaring people off your favorite fishing spot. ;D
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: clarki on November 10, 2004, 10:16:18 PM
Not a word of a lie. Fortunately, I like fishing for coho just a little more than I'm afraid of black bears. 
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Rodney on November 11, 2004, 12:52:00 PM
No I believe you, was just teasing. Actually a few of us have been discussing about recent sightings of bear prints etc lately... How concerned should we be when it comes to black bears? And what are some of the precautions people taking to ensure there wouldn't be any incidents....? :-\
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Hiker on November 11, 2004, 10:49:34 PM
What I heard from friends who are in environmental science is that bears haven't had enough of food this summer, and they are coming closer to people in search for last bits of food before hibernating.
From that point, I do not think bear population exploded, but everybody should be cautious as they could be more agressive.

In general I would visit any of government sites with bear advices (bc parks site, ....) and look for answers. When I go for my hikes, I try to follow all bear precautions. I would offer following suggestions, but there are many more, make noise as you move, do not wipe your hands dirty from fish or food off your clothes, be very well avare of your surroundings, never panic (I have been very close to bears - 20-30 feet but not being attacked), never run away from any black bear, make your self big if bear starts approaching (jump on the log), always face the bear, fight back if attacked by a black bear (I never tested this so you have to take this with a pinch of doubt), maybe invest in a paper spray ? - all this and many other advices apply to black bears only - grizzlies are different ball game.

The most important advice - spend some time in researching for the material on bear safety on internet on somewhere else. Do not be arrogant, and blame the animal. We are intruding their natural habitat, they are stronger, and we should give them a respect.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Spudcote on November 11, 2004, 11:30:54 PM
Just imagine this SOB coming at you:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/spudcote/bear2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/spudcote/bear1.jpg)

1600 lbs, over 14 ft high at the head.

It had killed 2 people within 72 hours of it's own death.

Biggest grizzly on record to ever be killed.

The guy unloaded his 7mm Mag Semi-automatic Rifle into the bear and it dropped a few feet from him. The big bear was Still alive so he reloaded and shot it several times in the head.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: redtide on November 12, 2004, 07:50:51 PM
i was followed once by a black bear in a trail along stave lake. since then i have never ventured alone in these areas. the norrish can wait until my buddy gets over his cold. invest in a survival knife when fishing wilderness areas. having a knife in the wild will give you confidence when facing a troubling situation.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Hiker on November 14, 2004, 12:53:25 AM
Knife?? :)

I would use it if nothing else there is to do, but have you ever seen a bear up close? 100s of punds of meat, big teeth and claws.

NiceFish gave a very detailed description what to do, which I was lazy to type. Only what I am not sure about doing is wasting of my peper spray before a bear is very close. I would save it for a big burst right into face of it rather than hoping I do not over use it. I guess this goes with confidence.

Do not feel overly self confident with any knife.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Robbie on November 14, 2004, 10:32:02 AM
Did anybody else have trouble seeing the link of the bear?  All it did was redirect me to the Hotmail login page.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: boomer on November 14, 2004, 01:10:19 PM
I had problems too
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Spudcote on November 14, 2004, 01:19:44 PM
Better ?
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: the_pict on November 15, 2004, 11:44:49 AM
try this link for bear proofing yourself
www.pocketmovies.net/detail_91html
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Moby Dick on November 15, 2004, 01:01:30 PM
I was nervous about seeing bears while fishing as well...until i went fishing on the Nitinat River. Saw 14 bears in just over 3 hours of fishing. Had numerous bears walk within 25ft of me or a friend of mine, actually wanting the fish we were landing. We had to group together and wave our arms slowly (I guess to make ourselves look big and confident). I heard that is what you should do, not yell at them. It worked well for us. We actually had to stall going down a path to the river at one point because there were 3 sets of bears walking down the same path. We had to time it so we went between them!  After this day of fishing i found that unless you spook a bear or act aggresive towards one, they will most likely just leave you alone. All they want is the same thing we do...salmon.  If you use common sense and remain calm you are pretty much fine. Unless you run into some type of rogue bear that is extremely aggresive, in which case your just unlucky. :) However you probably have a better chance of getting in a car accident on your way out there than that.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: blaydRnr on November 15, 2004, 05:26:58 PM
Just imagine this SOB coming at you:

 
  [/img]

1600 lbs, over 14 ft high at the head.

It had killed 2 people within 72 hours of it's own death.

Biggest grizzly on record to ever be killed.

The guy unloaded his 7mm Mag Semi-automatic Rifle into the bear and it dropped a few feet from him. The big bear was Still alive so he reloaded and shot it several times in the head.

what article is this from? when and where?
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Sandy on November 15, 2004, 07:20:58 PM
B.C. and Yukon Chamber of mines used to have an excellent booklet on dealing with bears in the bush,I don't know if it's still available,might be worth a try. always best to err on the side of caution,stay away from bears
25' is away to close to any bear(maybe 3-4 strides for a bear)as for Knifes  :o
with bear spray you have as good a chance of getting diisabilitated as the bear.There has been some fairly good discussions in the past regarding bears,and some really good advice and some really stupid advice.Be informed!!
Title: Re: grizzly pictures true or false
Post by: blueheeler on November 16, 2004, 08:01:32 AM
This email tale, circulating constantly in one form or another since November 2001, seems to grow taller year by year. Ironically, the first two snapshots — the ones showing the hunter posing next to the carcass of an incredibly large bear — are authentic. We know where and when they were taken, and by whom. The origin of the third photo purporting to show the remains of the behemoth's last victim is unknown. It was attached to the already-circulating email by an anonymous prankster in late 2002.

In real life, the big grizzly measured 10' 6" from nose to tail and weighed in at an estimated 1,000 to 1,200 pounds — unusually large for the vicinity, says the USDA Forest Service, but not quite a world record, nor even an Alaskan record. It was killed on October 14, 2001 by U.S. Air Force Airman Theodore Winnen on Hinchinbrook Island, Prince William Sound. The photos were taken by his hunting partner, Staff Sgt. James Urban. Both were stationed at Eielson Air Force Base near Fairbanks at the time.

Though the bear was within 10 yards of the hunters' position and moving towards them when he fired the first shot, Winnen says, it did not charge them, contrary to what the email claims.  "I don't know if the wind was in our favor or what," he told the Anchorage Daily News. "We were dressed in camouflage. He might not have seen us."  Winnen's weapon was a 338-caliber Winchester Magnum, not a 7mm semi-automatic as alleged. The first bullet pierced the bear's brain but left it standing; five more in the chest finally brought it down.

Was the bear a man-eater, as claimed in the email?  No, says the Forest Service, there is no evidence of that. When asked by the Anchorage Daily News to comment on the horrific image of what appears to be a partially-eaten human victim, spokesman Ray Massey admitted he hadn't even looked at it.  "I didn't want to see a photo of the body," he said. "I know it's bogus."

p.s if you go to this site don't click on the third photo - its pretty graphic

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-grizzlybear5.htm
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: Sandy on November 16, 2004, 07:47:34 PM
Thanks Blueheeler,kind of wondered about the 14',had visions of opening the curtains on the bedroom and this guy peeking in  :o and we're above a 1/2 in and out Basement. I had to shoot a barren ground grizlly in 1993 that was almost 500 lbs and he was scarey big when you were beside him.
Title: Re: Huge black bear at Norrish
Post by: blaydRnr on November 17, 2004, 01:05:43 AM
thanks for the link...true or not, that's some scarey s--t. :o