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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: The_Roe_Man on September 03, 2004, 07:50:14 PM

Title: Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: The_Roe_Man on September 03, 2004, 07:50:14 PM
Fisher and I spent a couple hours fishing the incoming tide today using roe below the port mann.  Had a couple bites but nothing came of them , maybe coarse fish.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Hung on September 03, 2004, 09:00:03 PM
My son and I drove along River roads on both North Arm & South Arm and did not see anyone fishing!  Water visibility was really poor.  We fished near Alex Fraser bridge between 6 and 8pm and caught only 2 bullheads.  Those little critters swallowed the whole 1/0 hook!  Wasted several of my roe sacs! >:(

QUESION:  I just made some roe sacs this afternoon, per Marco's instruction, but I don't have anise oil to store them in.  Should I use Borax???
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Pink Poacher on September 03, 2004, 09:06:56 PM
Just store them in the fridge.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 03, 2004, 11:40:07 PM
does the anise oil actually help to cure and preserve the roe? or is it more just for scent?
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: funfisher on September 04, 2004, 12:34:32 AM
I have used some olive oil in the past and it seemed to work well in preserving the roe.  Put the sacs in a small glass jar and fill with the oil.  Just try it out and see.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 04, 2004, 12:36:39 AM
Anise oil is usually used as an attractant. Pure anise oil is expensive; $7.00 for 25 ml.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 04, 2004, 12:57:43 AM
wow that's pretty steep.  but wouldn't you need to cure the roe anyway?  how can oil alone, keep the eggs from going mushy? ???
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 04, 2004, 01:02:55 AM
You generally cure the roe and then add the scent
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Hiker on September 04, 2004, 01:38:42 AM
Don't fill up the jar with anise oil. Anise oil is just attractant. I use glicerin oil (which is not cheap neither but much cheaper though - about $9 for 500ml).
Get them in health stores/pharmacies.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 04, 2004, 06:53:19 AM
FA, Where do you buy your Anise Oil from? ???
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Matuka Jack on September 04, 2004, 08:48:37 AM
Thanks Doc
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 04, 2004, 10:51:47 PM
London Drugs if you want the pure anise oil. You may have to order them several days in advance. Use a small amount because it is concentrated. I squeeze a couple of drops into a plastic bag where I keep my homemade plastic worms to keep them from sticking together.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 05, 2004, 01:00:54 AM
i don't want to sound ignorant, but if you're gonna go to all that trouble to give your roe the scent of anise, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to go with the gibbs artificial eggs?  ???  i realize its a totally different ball game,  but since the eggs have already been cured and its scent have been altered (and maybe even dyed in the process), what's left of it's natural complexity?...texture?
 

Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Rodney on September 05, 2004, 11:16:57 AM
Natural bait will generally be more successful than artificial bait. It would be hard to produce artificials that have similar texture and scent to naturals. Never disregard the artificials of course, sometimes they will work just as good as naturals in rivers.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 05, 2004, 05:00:44 PM
You have to pay attention to the details my friend...even the slightest ones make the biggest difference.

you've got a good point and of course, success stems from the attention of details.  i was just asking because of the phenomenal cost of the anise oil.

last year, i was using the gibbs (anise scented) aritificial roe and found that the white springs went  'nuts' over them.  i couldn't even 'hope' for a coho to bite because of the springs aggressiveness towards the scent.  my biggest fear is that if i use the oil to 'scent' my cured roe, that it would end up being an expensive way to catch an already aggressive species.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 06, 2004, 02:45:48 PM
sorry, i don't know why i kept saying gibbs.  i meant to say the JENSEN eggs.  been working long hours. :-[
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 06, 2004, 04:45:39 PM
maybe i'm being naive... but it almost feels like you guys are mocking me....if so, i should have just stuck with 'the other site'.  at least they were a lot more straight forward with their criticisms, rather than trying to set up people for the "butt" of their jokes. :'( >:(
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Pink Poacher on September 06, 2004, 05:02:58 PM
I noticed that there are a few members who seems to take delight in mocking others.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Rodney on September 06, 2004, 05:10:42 PM
Hey BlaydRnr, generally, I always have a couple of jars of Jensen eggs in my vest, especially during steelhead season. Orange, pink and sometimes chartreuse.

Usually, I'll start out with my roe. Once that's finished, I'll start using the Jensen eggs. It's more of a backup bait.

Regarding springs biting not coho, that maybe a depth problem, or even waters that you are fishing in. Shorten the float depth and you'll probably see a decrease number of spring hookups.
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 06, 2004, 05:20:56 PM
I noticed that there are a few members who seems to take delight in mocking others.

ya. i'm a bit surprised myself... disappointed.  maybe my expectation was too high. :(
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 06, 2004, 05:28:12 PM
I noticed that there are a few members who seems to take delight in mocking others.
Not mocking you at all BlaydRnr, you and Pink Poacher obviously don't know Normfish ;D ;D

duhhh!.... why do you think we're labelled as 'NEWBIES' :P
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: canoe man on September 06, 2004, 06:33:22 PM
hey blaydrnr ive had single eggs in sacs suspended in massage oil for almost two years, first they were cured with a powdered roe cure then put in sacs and then placed in oil with a tiny bottle of anise extract added.
wife actually dont mind the smell of me when i come home from fishin with them lol
a single chum doe large enough can produce alot of eggs and i mean alot  :o
i was very surprised, plus it kept me busy while watchin the cfl while tying them up
cnm
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 06, 2004, 06:53:23 PM
well, i guess i'll try out all the suggestions.  thanx.  always looking to try new methods and techniques.


Oh, by the way... Norm i love your haircut.  ;) Where do you go to get it done?   Is it hard to maintain?  ;D
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 06, 2004, 11:08:32 PM
I find BC Orange and pale white jensen eggs work for me
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: Koho on September 07, 2004, 08:27:48 AM

duhhh!.... why do you think we're labelled as 'NEWBIES' :P


blaydRnr, just post a couple more times, and nobody can call you a Newbie anymore   :)
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: DragonSpeed on September 07, 2004, 10:34:55 AM
blaydRnr, I'm very sorry if you thought I was making fun of you, but I wasn't. I was serious about asking you the color of egg you use. If I can get the Springs to attack my eggs, I would be very happy. The more fish I hook, the merrier. Just wanted to know the color, as I would try it myself and see what happens.

I am still waiting to hear too!  I MUCH prefer fishing Jensen eggs to roe.  Neater, and MUCH better smelling  :)
Title: Re:Lower Fraser Sept 2
Post by: blaydRnr on September 07, 2004, 06:38:12 PM
normfish i don't hate you man.  i may have just read too much into what you posted.  the combination of what you wrote and doc's response,  along with the number of postings you've racked up,  (naturally) made me think you were being coy with me. i just assumed,   i had posted something that was obvious to the 'more' senior members of this site.  (yes, that included you). it didn't help, that i kept calling it the wrong name.

 :-* ironically,  from what i've read,  you've come across as one of the more likeable guys. :-*

as far as the colour of egg i was using, it was bc roe
combined  with a tuft of chartreuse yarn on a 2 o/t hook.  short floating .... mid run....upper vedder.