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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: dennisK on June 17, 2024, 01:21:38 PM

Title: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: dennisK on June 17, 2024, 01:21:38 PM
I know this stretch of road in Chilliwack and found a video on youtube. Sort of fishing related.

Who would ICBC find at fault?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEmeW8Hajq8


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Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: psd1179 on June 17, 2024, 02:00:45 PM
the truck for sure. But can you guys be patient and not speeding?
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: Fish Assassin on June 17, 2024, 03:02:12 PM
I'm surprised that the white car at the beginning of the video didn't get hit. Idiot, passing 4 cars. Why the rush ?
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: fisherforever on June 17, 2024, 03:37:03 PM
truck for sure!
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: clarki on June 17, 2024, 05:01:01 PM
I would assign 20% responsibility of the crash to the operator of the  truck and 80% to the operator of the car.

It appears the truck was speeding , and should have been attentive to the possibility that the line of cars was as going slow because the lead car was preparing to turn. However the truck was lawfully passing on a broken yellow line and the onus is on the operator of the car to make sure it is safe to turn. With a check of his mirror, and a blind spot check over his shoulder, he would have seen that it was wasn’t safe to turn.
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: Darko on June 17, 2024, 06:33:49 PM
I would assign 20% responsibility of the crash to the operator of the  truck and 80% to the operator of the car.

It appears the truck was speeding , and should have been attentive to the possibility that the line of cars was as going slow because the lead car was preparing to turn. However the truck was lawfully passing on a broken yellow line and the onus is on the operator of the car to make sure it is safe to turn. With a check of his mirror, and a blind spot check over his shoulder, he would have seen that it was wasn’t safe to turn.

exactly my thoughts. Always shoulder check! Im confident he was far enough even to see him from the side mirror... although yes truck was probably speeding aswell
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: danielk on June 17, 2024, 08:49:33 PM
No fault insurance  they both get hit.      But the truck was at fault.  You can’t pass if it’s unsafe.    And that wasn’t a safe place to pass !   
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: SuperBobby on June 17, 2024, 09:17:13 PM
Unfortunately ICBC is a joke, so it will probably be 50/50.....even with the dashcam footage.
If it was done fairly, the fault is 100% with the truck for an unsafe pass.
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: Fish Assassin on June 17, 2024, 09:32:52 PM
Unfortunately ICBC is a joke, so it will probably be 50/50.....even with the dashcam footage.


Agree
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: RalphH on June 17, 2024, 10:38:24 PM
rule of thumb is the last vehicle with the opportunity to avoid the accident is at fault. I don't know if it is reasonable to expect a vehicle turning left to check behind and to the left. It does appear they did not signal a left turn at all.

It's better as an example of how bad driving habits have become within the last few years. I see stuff like this (maybe not the accident) just about every day.

Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: Fish Assassin on June 17, 2024, 11:25:25 PM
Signal light was flashing.
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: clarki on June 18, 2024, 12:50:39 AM
ICBC’s Learn to Drive Smart Manual recommends a mirror check and a shoulder check for both right and left turns.
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: RalphH on June 18, 2024, 07:53:43 AM
Signal light was flashing.


the white car that attempts the left turn doesn't come into view at about 35 seconds on the video and from then until it ends I cannot see a left signal at all. Not saying that vehicle is not at fault but the operator of the P.U. reckless and driving without due care IMO. No doubt ICBC has a huge manual on case law and would consult that to apportion blame. 
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: dave c on June 18, 2024, 10:40:11 AM
the white car that attempts the left turn doesn't come into view at about 35 seconds on the video and from then until it ends I cannot see a left signal at all. Not saying that vehicle is not at fault but the operator of the P.U. reckless and driving without due care IMO. No doubt ICBC has a huge manual on case law and would consult that to apportion blame.
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Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: GordJ on June 19, 2024, 01:24:04 PM
Aw, c’mon you guys! Obviously the guy with the dash cam is at fault! Everyone knows that you can’t have an accident if there is no video.
Title: Re: Who's at fault in car accident along Chilliwack Road video.
Post by: bj23 on June 21, 2024, 11:23:53 AM
The truck driver is at fault. A driver is responsible for driving within the parameters & the conditions ahead of him.