Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Darko on November 07, 2021, 08:16:01 PM
-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvRNos4n_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvRNos4n_s)
-
I just sent an email to DFO to report this and then immediately saw your post.
-
I just sent an email to DFO to report this and then immediately saw your post.
meh, I don't see a reason to report it to DFO, like they're not aware of hundreds of people doing this... I don't want anybody sending hate to this guy either. The only problem I have is when foul hooked fish are kept/bad handling. Other than that not everybody believes in the same ideas or fish for the same reason. As long as the law is being followed then it's nobody's place to judge. I just found how happy this guy seemed to be while doing his "whip tricks" quite amusing and thought it was worth sharing.
-
meh, I don't see a reason to report it to DFO, like they're not aware of hundreds of people doing this... I don't want anybody sending hate to this guy either. The only problem I have is when foul hooked fish are kept/bad handling. Other than that not everybody believes in the same ideas or fish for the same reason. As long as the law is being followed then it's nobody's place to judge. I just found how happy this guy seemed to be while doing his "whip tricks" quite amusing and thought it was worth sharing.
I see your point. Illegal and unethnical are different. Based on the fact he is proudly preaching this method on YouTube I would tend to believe he doesn't know foul hooked fish cannot be kept and he genuinely believed he found an effecient way fishing and would like to help the others.
The reason I decided to report to DFO was that I saw a fresh penetration wound on the fish's body. That makes me wonder how the fish was pulled up. If the hook was in the mouth then I won't say anything. Another reason was that I think these YouTube videos shouldn't be published. People snagging on Capilano River would be seen by a few other anglers who already know snagging is illegal. They won't set a example. But a video on YouTube could be very misleading and easily viewed by hundreds and thousands. Maybe one or two of the new anglers saw this video before watching Rod's channel and figured this is awesome and started doing the same thing.
The last but not the least, maybe DFO won't do anything like you said. But it bothers me if I choose to do nothing, either. It is so unfair if we just let them having their way without any costs.
-
The persistent whipping is quite exhausting. they'd better choose a lighter rod and reel.
-
The persistent whipping is quite exhausting.
Exactly. 🤣 Not just physically exhausting, but mentally exhausting. You'd have to pay me to stand there to repeat that 10 second motion 1000 per day.
-
"Other than that not everybody believes in the same ideas or fish for the same reason. As long as the law is being followed then it's nobody's place to judge."
If it's wrong it's wrong.
Victorbai you did the right thing.
Rodney pls delete this thread. There are enough snaggers out there already, we don't need more.
-
I saw this technique used last fall. I didn’t realize the technique had an actual name. Looks boring.
-
I saw this technique used last fall. I didn’t realize the technique had an actual name. Looks boring.
I think it's just called pocket flossing
-
Definitely flossing. The guy I saw last year was doing exactly the same way as in that video. Repeating short casts, if you can call that casting ?
-
The fishing stores love this because of all the gear that is lost at broken rods. Plus it keeps all these people in one spot.
The other solution would be to close Tamahi rapids to all fishing. Problem solved.
-
I saw a similar scene today at Stave in the pool behind the toilet bowl this afternoon. Most of them had floats but they all seemed to be trying to line whatever poor fish there may have been. I saw no fish caught or kept in sight despite the slew of cars parked on the road indicating early starts for at least some of them. I also saw this last year on the Alouette, no float, long leader and I could not tell what was on the small hook, but the fisherman caught or lined a coho on his first cast in water I had worked by casting and slowly lifting his terminal tackle. And a few other fish fell to this method that week for him. It looked better than some jig twitchers Ive seen this year Yarding their rod like a lunatic. Really it just reminds me of scale bar back in the day, the fish are not biting, the fishermen may be rookies, but its a fish with a hook in its mouth~
-
The fishing stores love this because of all the gear that is lost at broken rods. Plus it keeps all these people in one spot.
The other solution would be to close Tamahi rapids to all fishing. Problem solved.
Are you kidding?!?
And have all those beaks spread around into the few non-popularized, yet still reasonably productive spots left in the upper river?! Please NOOO!
I hope Tamihi rapids remains the high water level beak zone of choice. I say let them floss there and hope that from time to time, COs pay them a visit to check for barbed hooks and other violations.
Those willing to evolve as anglers will do so eventually. Those who won't...well...you can't fix stupid.
-
The fishing stores love this because of all the gear that is lost at broken rods. Plus it keeps all these people in one spot.
The other solution would be to close Tamahi rapids to all fishing. Problem solved.
Yeah because we haven’t lost enough water to fish in the last 20 years…. Not to mention there’s lots of productive places to fish properly in Tamihi. Let’s condense everyone into an even smaller portion of river 🙄 Moving the problem and fixing the problem are two very different things.
-
this guy did it all wrong, should be using a fly rod with a seven foot tc14 tip, wait five second and whip away. 8)
-
Video is unavailable now - private. I thought I would see some spey rod tricks.
-
it was a lot of nothing if you ask me. Worst part is having a look leaves my you tube feed loaded with foreign language videos of the same mess around Tamihi Falls. I guess I should go to night school to learn a new language.
-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_eQ4h7-cE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_eQ4h7-cE)
He is being quite brave speaking like this. Seems to like staying anonymous and turning off comments... Wonder whyyy. BTW this is a reupload of the original.
-
it was a lot of nothing if you ask me. Worst part is having a look leaves my you tube feed loaded with foreign language videos of the same mess around Tamihi Falls. I guess I should go to night school to learn a new language.
Just hit the "Dislike" button on the video if you watch something in future you don't want more of.
If that particular video is now private and you can't dislike it, the next time you see a video on the home page that you aren't interested in, click the three dots to the right of the video title and select "Not Interested". It might take a couple of tries but the algorithm learns pretty quick not to show you that stuff.
You can also visit the new video (with comments turned off) and report the video by clicking the three dots under the video. I reported it as "Violent or Repulsive Content" > "Animal Abuse". It only takes a few reports to get a video flagged, so long as multiple users report the video for the same reason.
-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_eQ4h7-cE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_eQ4h7-cE)
He is being quite brave speaking like this. Seems to like staying anonymous and turning off comments... Wonder whyyy. BTW this is a reupload of the original.
I think this guy likes me. ;D
-
Just hit the "Dislike" button on the video if you watch something in future you don't want more of.
If that particular video is now private and you can't dislike it, the next time you see a video on the home page that you aren't interested in, click the three dots to the right of the video title and select "Not Interested". It might take a couple of tries but the algorithm learns pretty quick not to show you that stuff.
You can also visit the new video (with comments turned off) and report the video by clicking the three dots under the video. I reported it as "Violent or Repulsive Content" > "Animal Abuse". It only takes a few reports to get a video flagged, so long as multiple users report the video for the same reason.
Thanks that's a valid suggestion but it's not that I dislike the video, i just don't really want to watch more of the same. Youtube, Facebook and Google are the same in thinking because a person looked at a certain kind of content they''l want to see more. For example i enjoy some videos from the Hoover Institute about foreign affairs and international strategy but having watched 2 or 3 of those I get anti-climate science videos suggested from them as well.
I also can't see how any angler could describe this as animal abuse given we inflict the same kind of violence on fish regardless of how we hook them. These rules and ethics have zero to do with avoidance of cruelty. Some of them are rather mindless IMO.
-
Thanks that's a valid suggestion but it's not that I dislike the video, i just don't really want to watch more of the same. Youtube, Facebook and Google are the same in thinking because a person looked at a certain kind of content they''l want to see more. For example i enjoy some videos from the Hoover Institute about foreign affairs and international strategy but having watched 2 or 3 of those I get anti-climate science videos suggested from them as well.
I also can't see how any angler could describe this as animal abuse given we inflict the same kind if violence on fish regardless of how we hook them. These rules and ethics have zero to do with avoidance of cruelty. Some of them are rather mindless IMO.
What Blood Orange was saying is that if you click on "not interested", YouTube will not recommend more similar videos to you on the homepage.
-
What Blood Orange was saying is that if you click on "not interested", YouTube will not recommend more similar videos to you on the homepage.
Thanks but I understood that. I'd actually prefer that they didn't suggest content based on my previous viewing at all but provide a index of topics from which I could select using my understanding of what I am interested in. Frankly their AI algorithms are are so simplistic if I did that they'd likely stop recommending any angling related videos at all. i am also pretty sure that virtually any angling video on youtube gets quite a number of reports of "Violent or Repulsive Content" > "Animal Abuse" from the PETA/ AR people to make it it meaningless.
-
What Blood Orange was saying is that if you click on "not interested", YouTube will not recommend more similar videos to you on the homepage.
Yup!
Ralph, if you don't want to have Youtube suggest videos to you via your viewing history + algorithm then use Youtube in "Private" or "Incognito" mode (depends on your browser). Youtube will treat you like a new viewer it hasn't seen before. You lose access to your subscriptions though because if you log in, it'll obviously know it's you ;)
I brought up reporting the video as a way to troll the guy and get it taken down. It's not going to change the world but maybe it will annoy the guy, lol.
-
Yup!
Ralph, if you don't want to have Youtube suggest videos to you via your viewing history + algorithm then use Youtube in "Private" or "Incognito" mode (depends on your browser). Youtube will treat you like a new viewer it hasn't seen before. You lose access to your subscriptions though because if you log in, it'll obviously know it's you ;)
thanks again for the suggestions and these I can look into.
Like or not this video does not feature an illegal fishing technique. If it is indeed a flossing technique, flossing is not illegal. People's definition of ethics is their personal issue & trying to harass or annoy them is unlikely to change their mind.
-
People's definition of ethics is their personal issue & trying to harass or annoy them is unlikely to change their mind.
I know, I know. Why have you got to sound so darn reasonable all the time?!