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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: essyoo on October 04, 2021, 04:54:59 PM
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Not my usual spot but was going to give it a try on one of my lunch breaks this week. Checking the regs today and see that it's still listed as "no fishing for salmon". Is it usually one that they update the regs later in the season or is it really closed this year? Is the hatchery program finished in there?
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It's usually open by now. I've been checking the regs everyday but no change. I see nothing about why it would be closed on the Alco park hatchery website or ARMS website.
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chum returns have been low and pressure has been heavy. Some folks have been fishing tributaries that don't get any hatchery contribution and still killing chums. My guess it will remain closed this year unless returns at the hatchery are good enough to allow some fishing.
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“No Fishing” is certainly a lot clearer than the muddled mess that the Alouette regs were last year
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I've had dozens of people messaging me about this, so have sent out these concerns, just waiting for responses.
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Thanks rod! Ya I was hoping they would allow atleast the 1 hatchery coho. Saves me some gas and some shoulder to shoulder fishing.
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chum returns have been low and pressure has been heavy. Some folks have been fishing tributaries that don't get any hatchery contribution and still killing chums. My guess it will remain closed this year unless returns at the hatchery are good enough to allow some fishing.
that seems far to thoughtful when the real reason is probably no one is driving the ship.
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yup it's been updated. Same muddled mess as last year though somewhere in there 4 days of exciting fishing went missing! ;D
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Who would I send a message to inquiring about some of the other systems regarding freshwater salmon closures and reasoning behind it? Curious as to why no fishing for salmon at De Boville Slough when previous years it has been open as well. An email link to the correct person would be appreciated. thanks.
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Who would I send a message to inquiring about some of the other systems regarding freshwater salmon closures and reasoning behind it? Curious as to why no fishing for salmon at De Boville Slough when previous years it has been open as well. An email link to the correct person would be appreciated. thanks.
any hatchery coho returning to De Boville slough? if not , that's the reason why it's closed. Virtually all streams with wild stock only in region 2 are closed to targeting salmon even though one may be only wanting to catch and release. It's been this way since April 1 2020.
even places like the Upper Pitt river that is fished hard for catch and release coho's by the jet boat guys is now closed to all salmon fishing
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any hatchery coho returning to De Boville slough? if not , that's the reason why it's closed. Virtually all streams with wild stock only in region 2 are closed to targeting salmon even though one may be only wanting to catch and release. It's been this way since April 1 2020.
even places like the Upper Pitt river that is fished hard for catch and release coho's by the jet boat guys is now closed to all salmon fishing
There are hatchery coho returning to Hyde Creek, and they come in via De Boville Slough. I used to bike all the way to the mouth of the slough and....
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Who would I send a message to inquiring about some of the other systems regarding freshwater salmon closures and reasoning behind it? Curious as to why no fishing for salmon at De Boville Slough when previous years it has been open as well. An email link to the correct person would be appreciated. thanks.
Barbara.Mueller@dfo-mpo.gc.ca
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there are other streams with input of hatchery coho that are not open to salmon fishing... Burnette creek in New Westminster/Burnaby is another example.
As I recall the reason why all streams and rivers in Region 2 were initially restricted to no fishing for salmon was that DFO had been unable to do stream assessments for many years and had no idea of what condition the various runs of salmon were in. what we got was openings for streams and rivers with reasonably good levels of hatchery input. It would be nice to know what if anything DFO has been able to do to improve it's knowledge base of the health of these streams! Best I know only Region 2 and 3 has these sweeping restrictions. In the case of Reg 3 that was more related to the Big Bar slide.
I think we know many of not most of our local rivers are in dire straits but how much is a general closure helping? The no fishing for salmon rule is very easily circumvented and people in many locations - like the Fraser Bars, continue to do it.
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Once upon a time DFO walked creek with clicker counters and a stick to scare out hiding fosh from banks.
Thoes days are long gone. Best I know is some stream keepers
Do that work now but they tend to keep the numbers close to their chest and members.
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They still do the clicker counting, I ran across them everyday last year on a river near my house but it's the only time and place I've ever seen them.
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Thanks for the link bbk.
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They still do the clicker counting, I ran across them everyday last year on a river near my house but it's the only time and place I've ever seen them.
I have seen it done on the Harrison but it is an incomplete count. They count specific species and count morts only. For the most part they count the ones on the beach or near the shoreline. I have seen them fish morts out of the water from a boat but not for sometime.
The folks who do this are contracted. They are not employed by DFO.
Also they do examine dead females to judge spawning success. They slice the abdomens low on the side - not a ventral cut. I mention this because from time to time there is some panic that this is evidence of illegal roe harvest from live females. I talked to a guy about after watching him do such an examination. I asked if they do similar surveys on the Chilliwack and he said they do.
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Oh interesting, ya the guys I talked to said they work for dfo but they don't have the same rights as a dfo officer to ticket or anything like that. Just that they do the research. Most of the time it was this one guy and a different student or two. They would throw stones and count the fish moving along with cutting all the dead fish in half and adding it to a tally.