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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: kosanin kosher salt on March 02, 2021, 01:15:33 PM

Title: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: kosanin kosher salt on March 02, 2021, 01:15:33 PM
Is Borax Safe? Probably not
In 2010 it was listed as a candidate  for.  Substance of Very High Concern to EU regulations of Restriction of Chemicals.

https://www.healthline.com/health/is-borax-safe
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: poper on March 02, 2021, 01:35:43 PM
It sure works good on roe, must be.
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: Hike_and_fish on March 02, 2021, 02:07:43 PM
Should be banned IMO. Bad for native fish species.
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: poper on March 02, 2021, 03:21:58 PM
Should be banned IMO. Bad for native fish species.

I don’t think it’s doing much harm, it’s been used for 50 years.You could say a lot of things are not good for native species. Would be a huge list, with borax near the bottom. Lol
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: Roderick on March 02, 2021, 03:26:08 PM
Usually listed as about the same toxicity as salt. 
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: RalphH on March 02, 2021, 04:15:23 PM
Usually listed as about the same toxicity as salt.

be careful here as salt or better table salt,  is the commonly used term for Sodium Chloride while borax is chemically a salt more correctly called sodium tetra borate. Salts are formed by the interaction of an acid with a base to form a cyrstalline powder in it's solid state. While it take 10 to 25 grams of borax to kill an adult and more than 25 grams of sodium chloride to do the same, borax is more corrosive and capable of causing eye injuries or serious skin irritations and much more so than table salt. The most common form of salt poisoning is drinking sea water and according to wikipedia  "the median lethal dose of table salt is roughly 3g per kg of body weight."
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: Roderick on March 03, 2021, 04:04:45 PM
According to the MSDS: Borax: LD50 for rats taken orally (eating it) is 2.66 grams/kg


                                   Table salt: LD50 rat oral is 3.0 g/kg


LD50 is the amount required to kill half the tested group.  So this means that borax is slightly more toxic then table salt.  At least to rats.
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: Hike_and_fish on March 04, 2021, 10:55:27 PM
I don’t think it’s doing much harm, it’s been used for 50 years.You could say a lot of things are not good for native species. Would be a huge list, with borax near the bottom. Lol

And how have the native Cutthroat populations been doing ?
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: poper on March 05, 2021, 04:22:08 PM
And how have the native Cutthroat populations been doing ?

Lol, I’m not going to argue, I just don’t think it’s a problem. I’m sure we could look stuff up,find numbers saying it’s killing native fish, and rant on and on.
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: clarki on March 05, 2021, 09:41:31 PM
And how have the native Cutthroat populations been doing ?
I would suggest that the greater threat to native cutthroat isn't the borax in the roe, but those sharp pieces of metal buried in the roe that get lodged down their throats
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: firstlight on March 09, 2021, 08:42:18 PM
Borax is the best Ant killer around.
Title: Re: Is Borax Safe?
Post by: CohoJake on March 10, 2021, 09:05:13 AM
Borax is the best Ant killer around.
Yes, and I use it in my vegetable garden for it's low toxicity.  Mixed with cornmeal and maple syrup, it makes great ant bait that is safe to use around my veggies (but not on them). Between that at the cups of beer for the slugs, my veggies nearly pest-free. It also makes a great ant bait to use around pets - many other commercial ant killers are toxic to cats and dogs.