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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: Nostro on August 10, 2004, 09:13:58 AM
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Fished from 7-9pm
Saw 1 small spring and 1 sock landed within the 30-40 people in sight. The boats across the river were not doing any better. Must believe that it will get better.
Lousy fishing, but great company of fishers. It's a great bar to fish, very few snags, and a good drift.
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"It's a great bar to fish, very few snags, and a good drift."
Yeah; and without a boat there are few bars with those characteristics. Maybe end of week....
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Hit the bar by 7:00 am and started to bounce , by 9:00 i had lost 6 complete set ups what a joke. A ton of people fishing zero fish being hooked pounded the river hard for nothing. This year seems slow i have been out 5 times 1 6lbs sox to show for my efforts. When will our government clue in and grow some b---s and close the commercial fishing permanetly the sport fishing makes them more money and is good for the economy. And the natives if they want to fish go buy a rod like the rest of us the same rules need to be in place . Im sick of the double standars set by our government they need to wake up . We need to conserve our fisheries so there are fish in the future not rape our waters .If there was only sport fishing there would be so many fish we would attract tourist from all over and that would be great for the economy hotels, guides ,tackle stores, the list is endless in people who would benefit. I guess this is my way of venting because i was skunked due to commercial , and native nets taking a large percent of the fish.
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Well I have been reading all these reports and for the past little while I have noticed that people have been catching mostly at Pegleg. I have never been, but I think that is where I will start going. It sounds like it must be one of the better places. Can't wait to check it out.
RobertO
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Legend for Prime Minister :)
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Ok Gman, if somehow some being came down and told you that you could only fish one spot on the Fraser for the rest of you life, where would it be? Laidlaw, Peg Leg, Herrling, Scale, Grassy or some other place I don't know about.
And I'm not asking for the 'exact' spot, not too particular, I don't want you to give away any great secrets. :)
RobertO
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Kewl, so when we going?
RobertO
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It has nothing to do with me lining fish. The facts are sport fishing could never have the affects that commercial and native fishing do. Are you a commercial guy or an indian?. Do you not agree that there are to many nets in the river . I personally am not a "meat" fisherman. I truly fish for the fun of it not the meat , i practise proper catch & release technics and don't keep everything that i catch.
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Hey BD,
Pegleg is one of the best spots to fish. Lots of room, very few snags, and normally, lots of fish. BUT, also a lot of people.
Herling, scales bar near Hope, Sea Bird Island and lower Shawathil are also great bars, but with lots of snags.
If you want privacy, you will have to sacrifice something: travel distance, snags, difficult access.
Whatever you want, you can find it. It takes time and effort to find.
Good luck and enjoy!
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For the sports fishermen to have an affect, wouldn't they have to be catching fish? In a few trips to Laidlaw with a grand total of maybe 200 guys fishing for about a grand total of 30 hours I have been out there, I have seen a total of 10 fish caught. Don't think those guys are having much impact on anything except a few paint chips on the cars in the parking as they speed off pissed that they didn't catch anything.
I imagine the same scenario for most of the bars.
RobertO
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1 Spring.
RobertO
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Have any economic studies been done showing how much sportfishing contributes to the economy compared with commerical and native fisheries? I think that it would be interesting to read, since I've always been under the impression that sportfishing if properly managed and marketed could possibly bring alotmore revenue to the provincial coffers while having a lot less impact on the river.
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. We need to conserve our fisheries so there are fish in the future not rape our waters .If there was only sport fishing there would be so many fish we would attract tourist from all over and that would be great for the economy hotels, guides ,tackle stores, the list is endless in people who would benefit. I guess this is my way of venting because i was skunked due to commercial , and native nets taking a large percent of the fish.
That would be fishing Utopia except that the cross impacts of such an irrational scenario will only create social,political,economic , recreational, & environmental disaster.Commercial fishing & canneries shutdown,unemployment rate goes up, natives uprising,more fish in river = more sporties, real estate for bar space overcrowded while space will be rented by the hour at premium primetime rates, etc,etc....
Too many people with greedy thoughts. Mother Nature can provide for our needs but CANNOT exceed man's greed. Time to look for alternate pastimes.
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not to high jack the thread haha
but why dont commercial fishers and first nations put time in at the hatcheries? ???
does not a farmer spend his time rearing, raising, feeding, growing, weeding, all his plants animals whatever it is he needs???
now if a commercial fisher puts in x-amount of time or even breeds say 3000 fish he can then go and fish for 3000 fish,
i know this may raise the cost of fish at the supermarket, but instead of them collecting E.I. they could do this type of thing to keep the cost down.
now how about a licience cost reduction for anyone who volunteers at a hatchery or river clean up or stream keepers type of group
20hrs = $10 off
dont take these numbers as posted there just ideas
but as for peg leg i first fished there last year and lost a bit of gear but after a couple off trips you get to learn the lay of the river and know where not to fish
this year three days fishin only one betty lost
takes time when you enter a new zone ;)
cnm
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not to high jack the thread haha
but why dont commercial fishers and first nations put time in at the hatcheries? ???
does not a farmer spend his time rearing, raising, feeding, growing, weeding, all his plants animals whatever it is he needs???
now if a commercial fisher puts in x-amount of time or even breeds say 3000 fish he can then go and fish for 3000 fish,
i know this may raise the cost of fish at the supermarket, but instead of them collecting E.I. they could do this type of thing to keep the cost down.
cnm...if I'm not mistaken commercial boys already do such work. When Sapperton put in their mini hatchery, they had EI commercial boys working on the project. The reduction in licence fee part... heck we'd have a free one every year. ;)
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well that is a good thing then bantam id like to see more of it
ive heard that a first nations in chilliwack once had one set up by DFO on aschlietz creek (spell check please) but it did not last long
ive met a few commercial river fishermen in this area that i live and all i hear is complaints from not enough fish to not enough openings to just crappy river conditions
if ya want to move part of this mods go ahead it aint got much to do with peggy anymore ;)
cnm
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Hey Sandhead, Max, et al...
I've posted the following stats before but I couldn't find it, so I will post it again. The survey, you will note, is somewhat dated, but is very interesting. It helps to put things into perspective.
Here it is:
2000 Survey of Sport Fishing in BC
·# of salmon caught in Lower Mainland: 493,955
·# of salmon kept in Lower Mainland: 134,521 (27.23% of salmon caught)
·recreational anglers who released fish voluntarily: 58.1%
·recreational anglers who released fish for mandatory reasons: 6.8%
·# of recreational anglers: 56,522
·# of salmon kept/ recreational angler/year: 2.38 salmon
·average expenditure/ recreational angler/year: $493.21
·average expenditure/ recreational angler/salmon/year: $207.23
·salmon catches by sector:Commercial fishery: 81%
Aboriginal fishery: 12%
Recreational fishery: 7%
·sector revenues (2002) of all species:
CommercialFishery:$358million Sport fishery: $675 million
Aboriginal fishery: Not reported
·sector employment (2002) :
Commercial fishery: 5,400 people
Sport fishery: 8,900 people
Aboriginal fishery: Not reported
·DFO fish allocation principles: - Conservation is first priority
- First Nations have next priority for food, social and ceremonial purposes, and treaty obligations
- Commercial and recreational fishery are then allocated surplus
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Hey Nostro, do you have a link to the above information? Really great stuff, thank you.
average expenditure/ recreational angler/year: $493.21.
Damn that is high, ;D I am skewing the result big time! ;D
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Great post Nostro, commies take 81% & rec's take 7%. These #'s make you wonder why everyone whines about flossers.
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Great idea Doc, lets close the river to ALL Fishers, doesn't seem to be enough anyway.
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Great post Nostro, commies take 81% & rec's take 7%. These #'s make you wonder why everyone whines about flossers.
I think it's even more skewed than this, since the rec numbers include Coho, Chum, white spring, that run in the fall, when there is no commercial fishery in the river.
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Those are interesting numbers, but I think the average expenditure is totally low balled.
Fuel, Food, Accomadation, and Brews must be absent from that number.
It's interesting that the government doesn't cater more to developing the potential for growth in the recreational tourism sector, when it already appears that the recreational angling industry is already generating more jobs and higher revenue.
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Hey Rodney,
Here is the link for the "2000 Survey of Sport Fishing in British Columbia".
http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/pdf/sport_fishing_survey_2000.pdf
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Great post Nostro, commies take 81% & rec's take 7%. These #'s make you wonder why everyone whines about flossers.
I think it's even more skewed than this, since the rec numbers include Coho, Chum, white spring, that run in the fall, when there is no commercial fishery in the river.
Huh? Since when is there no fall commerical fishery? There are commerical openings for chum that take place in the fall.....incidently Thompson Steelhead are a by catch of this fishery.
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Oh....my misinformation. Is it as heavy pressure as the sockeye?