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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: blueback on September 11, 2017, 10:58:17 AM
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https://www.facebook.com/andrew.newman.94/videos/10154701035127064/
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Good to finally see some law enforcement happening on our local piers. I have previously seen evidence of this cruel practice (clawless crabs hauled up in my traps) off Belcarra as well.
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Throw the book at her and all other soul-less a-holes doing the same. Poaching and animal cruelty charges are hopefully in the works.
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Good job! they should've stepped up the enforcement a long time ago....
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All the things I am missing on because I don't do Facebook. :o
Yes, a stiff fine is in order and I would also like to see a long-term fishing and crabbing ban for the offenders.
Thumbs up to those who reported it and to the RCMP for the prompt response.
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Agree,
THROW
THE
BOOK
AT
ALL
POACHERS and Polluters
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Disgusting excuse for a human being
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i am a bit alarmed at the rcmp having to attend this. it just shows the lack of funding dfo has to work with.
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This kind of behavior is inexcusable , to exploit the resources so blatantly , it can be equated to killing rhinos for their horns or bear for the gall bladder , she knew exactly what she was doing , hopefully she get the maximum punishment , makes me sick
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I am not in favour of it but there are places with a legal claw fishery and it is promoted as sustainable because the claws re-grow. Just saying.
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We do not have a legal claw fishery
How long to regrow 2 claws ?
I dont believe you are allowed to mutilate crabs before releasing them and if was legal sized crab she would have taken the whole crab
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I keep ornamental crabs in a marine fish tank as a hobby and once in a while the crabs will fight and rip each other's claws and legs off. They grow back at the next molt which is usually in a few months. Sometimes both claws are ripped off. They always survive to the next molt where new claws and legs reappear. That's all I'm saying. Not here to comment on the act of the original post; just stating what I've seen with regards to crabs regrowing arms and claws. Of course, not all crabs are equal.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declawing_of_crabs
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I keep ornamental crabs in a marine fish tank as a hobby and once in a while the crabs will fight and rip each other's claws and legs off. They grow back at the next molt which is usually in a few months. Sometimes both claws are ripped off. They always survive to the next molt where new claws and legs reappear. That's all I'm saying. Not here to comment on the act of the original post; just stating what I've seen with regards to crabs regrowing arms and claws. Of course, not all crabs are equal.
This is from the wiki link
Effects on mortality[edit]
Florida stone crab claws served as food
Under experimental conditions, but using commercially accepted techniques, 47% of Florida stone crabs that had both claws removed died after declawing, and 28% of single claw amputees died; 76% of the casualties died within 24 hours of declawing. The claws constituted 51% of the total weight of the crabs before declawing.[8] In the wild, where declawed crabs must compete for food, mates, and shelter, and avoid predators, the mortality rate is likely to be higher. Declawed crabs survive by switching from predation to scavenging.[9] The occurrence of regenerated claws in the fishery harvest is low, with studies calculating from less than 10% (1978),[8] 13% (2006),[7] to 20% (2010).[10] Larger, older crabs generally do not survive long enough to regrow their claws, as they are near the end of their lifespan.
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Why are some people trying to justify this? ::)
Assuming the animal is a legal catch, either kill it quickly and humanely for consumption, or return it unharmed.
There shouldn't be a third choice.
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I keep ornamental crabs in a marine fish tank as a hobby and once in a while the crabs will fight and rip each other's claws and legs off. They grow back at the next molt which is usually in a few months. Sometimes both claws are ripped off. They always survive to the next molt where new claws and legs reappear. That's all I'm saying. Not here to comment on the act of the original post; just stating what I've seen with regards to crabs regrowing arms and claws. Of course, not all crabs are equal.
your fish tank is a controlled environment. not the same.
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your fish tank is a controlled environment. not the same.
Exactly. Handling by humans increases mortality. I was just explaining to people who didn't know, that crabs can regrow their claws and legs, nothing more.
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Cut her arms off and toss her back into the ocean. :o
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CO should patrol all crabbing piers in LML all the time to discourage any form of illegal crabbing activities. Probably people don't see COs often so they cheat.
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I see the clip made the mainstream media
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/fines-issued-after-people-seen-ripping-claws-off-crabs-throwing-them-back-1.3590167
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CO should patrol all crabbing piers in LML all the time to discourage any form of illegal crabbing activities. Probably people don't see COs often so they cheat.
Those same poachers would just come out at night or go somewhere hidden.
The problem is they don't get a big enough fine when they do get caught and go to court.
Start taking there cars away and you will see a lot less of this activity. :o
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I agree , $450 is not much of a deterrent
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$450 is not much of a deterrent
It would be if there was a 50% chance or more of getting caught. At 1% or less, maybe no so much...
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Although upsetting to anglers that follow the regs you have to take things into context. If you start fining excessively for what is for the justice system a relatively minor offense the courts are going to throw them out. I keep seeing people suggesting overly punitive punishment for fishing offenses. Many people are not as concerned about fisheries issues as we are. I doubt many people would be suggesting seizing cars for all traffic offenses but you would see a massive drop in traffic fatalities if they did. Society has to consider the weight of the offense compared to other similar ones. I am actually surprised the fine is that high but she deserves it.
One of the reasons there is poor enforcement is government sees it as a low priory. With the cost of law enforcement that is unlikely to change. I would support an increase in our fishing/hunting licenses if that money went directly to hiring more CO's.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/crabs-legs-fined-white-rock-1.4292547
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Cut off one finger for every claw in her pocket.
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'A bloodbath, basically': Crab poaching a problem in B.C.'s Lower Mainland: biologist
Enforcement and patrol stretched thin as fisheries officers deal with salmon shortages
Fisheries officials did not have statistics on poaching in B.C., but a biologist at Vancouver Island University said crab poaching is a problem in the Lower Mainland.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/a-bloodbath-basically-crab-poaching-a-problem-in-b-c-s-lower-mainland-biologist-1.4290998
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http://www.coastreporter.net/news/local-news/accused-crab-poachers-in-court-1.22709099
It's everywhere