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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: DBM on April 21, 2017, 07:21:46 AM

Title: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: DBM on April 21, 2017, 07:21:46 AM
It takes awhile to hear back from the ministry so I thought maybe someone here would know.  I want to throw a crayfish trap into the lower fraser but don't know if because it's tidal waters if I'll need a tidal licence.  DFO is saying the crayfish fishery is mandated by the province - so is it covered under a freshwater licence or tidal one?
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: Jk47 on April 21, 2017, 07:34:16 AM
Tidal licence is required anywhere below Mission bridge for any type of fishing
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: psd1179 on April 21, 2017, 03:15:58 PM
Are there crayfish in Fraser river? no kidding
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: living_blind on April 21, 2017, 04:50:23 PM
I have no idea how the licensing works (whether a tidal or freshwater would cover it), but there are certainly crayfish in the lower. We have a local otter who devours them on a weekly basis, and leaves the remains from time to time. They are quite large down here, compared to the specimens I've seen in smaller creeks.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: bunnta on April 21, 2017, 06:36:07 PM
Are there crayfish in Fraser river? no kidding

i heard there are more of them around the lower fraser but i don't see why not especially around rivers that have them flowing to the fraser.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: mr.bean on April 21, 2017, 07:48:00 PM
caught two large crayfish by accident last year  on my sturgeon rig, just above the mission bridge.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: firebird on April 22, 2017, 07:34:23 AM
Tidal licence is required anywhere below Mission bridge for any type of fishing
This is correct and I think the quota is 20/day under "other shellfish" - c.f. 25/day upstream of Mission Bridge.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: Silver on April 22, 2017, 06:10:36 PM
Are there crayfish in Fraser river? no kidding

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South Arm bycatch
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: hrenya on April 23, 2017, 06:25:34 AM
me and my bud fished in Richmond for chubs , but all of the sudden we start getting crayfish , after some modification to crab traps , we casted them out , and we were getting quite a few of them .
CO stopped by few times to check us out , we were fishing for sturgeon too (depending on tide) , and I showed him crayfish , he was a bit surprised , he said he didn't see them for a while :)
but yeah , crayfish present in tidal fraser :)
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: redtide on April 23, 2017, 03:49:33 PM
lower fraser has some large sized crayfish in some spots. caught one bottom fishing with roe a few years ago. if you plan on keeping them be advised they may have industrial contamination in them that flow downstream from the interior mills and other good stuff. :P
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: Dave on April 23, 2017, 03:53:18 PM
lower fraser has some large sized crayfish in some spots. caught one bottom fishing with roe a few years ago. if you plan on keeping them be advised they may have industrial contamination in them that flow downstream from the interior mills and other good stuff. :P
I was about to post something along that line ... you beat me to it ;)
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: Silver on April 23, 2017, 07:42:44 PM
They were swarming with parasites too...nematodes? Not sure, but off putting nevertheless.

Although, some have said they are normal and of no consequence.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: Damien on April 23, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
Ya'll think the lower Fraser is worse off than the lower Mississippi where crawfish are eaten by the millions every year, both by locals, tourists paying top dollar and shipped worldwide?

Eating any type of fish requires a certain level of diligence, sure.

To the crawfish in the pictures above, it should be handled and respected just like any other fish we catch.  If keeping it legally, dispatch it.  If being returned, do so without harm.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: RalphH on April 24, 2017, 07:19:11 AM
Like all shellfish crayfish have to be kept alive until it's time to cook them or freeze them.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: typhoon on April 24, 2017, 07:49:24 AM
Like all shellfish crayfish have to be kept alive until it's time to cook them or freeze them.
Is that legal in BC?
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: RalphH on April 24, 2017, 08:38:13 AM
I don't know what does the synopsis etc say? Crayfish are not fish - they are crustaceans and they are native and common in most waters here. In saltwater, crabs and shellfish are typically kept alive. 
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: typhoon on April 24, 2017, 09:18:17 AM
I don't know what does the synopsis etc say? Crayfish are not fish - they are crustaceans and they are native and common in most waters here. In saltwater, crabs and shellfish are typically kept alive.

I don't fish for them so I have no idea. Performing a quick search
Freshwater
fish … means fin fish, shellfish and crustaceans (such as crayfish) in any life stage, including eggs.

so Crayfish and crustaceans are FISH.

It is unlawful to:
Have any live fish in your possession in the wild, or move any live fish or live aquatic invertebrates around the province or transplant them into any waters of B.C. Do not keep angled fish alive in a “livewell” or other device, or on stringers, and never use live fish as bait or release your aquarium fish to the wild.
“High-grading” is illegal.

So I would conclude it is illegal to keep them alive.


I was unable to find any similar comments either for or against keeping shellfish alive in the Tidal Fraser.

Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: DanL on April 24, 2017, 09:37:21 AM
That's a reasonable measure to prevent people doing stupid stuff like the bucket brigade, but that would be one hard CO to write you up for bringing home your haul of crayfish without dispatching each one first.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: TimL on April 24, 2017, 01:00:29 PM
Crayfish would be considered shellfish in tidal water so I'm assuming the handling and transport rules for them follow that of other shellfish as listed by dfo. No laws stated by DFO regarding whether crabs and other shellfish are to be kept alive or dispatched immediately when caught. The carapace (top shell) has to be retained on the crab until it is brought home. When crabbing, most people ( incl. me) keep their catch alive in seawater until they are ready to be shelled and cooked. The rationale is that the meat of shellfish deteriorates rapidly after death (think of why crabs, clams, mussels are usually sold live in supermarkets, or if dead, frozen). I would think the same practice goes for crayfish.
Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: Silver on April 24, 2017, 01:20:23 PM

To the crawfish in the pictures above, it should be handled and respected just like any other fish we catch.  If keeping it legally, dispatch it.  If being returned, do so without harm.

I will consider this in future...
The crustacean gladiator arena that I was hosting was giving me nightmares anyway.
My top fighter gruesomely killed a posse of mud bugs before losing an antennae and ultimately his life to a dungeness.
Not very ethical I know...but I'm now reformed.

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc478/Penskyfile/IMG_2525_1.jpg) (http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/Penskyfile/media/IMG_2525_1.jpg.html)

R.I.P CARABUS

Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: Silver on April 24, 2017, 01:32:38 PM

To the crawfish in the pictures above, it should be handled and respected just like any other fish we catch.  If keeping it legally, dispatch it.  If being returned, do so without harm.

I will consider this in future...
The crustacean gladiator arena that I was hosting was giving me nightmares anyway.
My top fighter gruesomely killed a posse of mud bugs before losing an antennae and ultimately his life to a dungeness.
Not very ethical I know...but I'm now reformed.

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc478/Penskyfile/IMG_2525_1.jpg) (http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/Penskyfile/media/IMG_2525_1.jpg.html)

R.I.P CARABUS

Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: banx on April 24, 2017, 05:15:03 PM
i'm guessing it wasn't a fair fight.  ;D

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Title: Re: Crayfish in Lower Fraser
Post by: fic on April 24, 2017, 07:57:38 PM
I will consider this in future...
The crustacean gladiator arena that I was hosting was giving me nightmares anyway.
My top fighter gruesomely killed a posse of mud bugs before losing an antennae and ultimately his life to a dungeness.
Not very ethical I know...but I'm now reformed.
R.I.P CARABUS
And your reward for posting pictures of fish on this board is,..... criticism, congratulations!