Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: James on December 09, 2016, 01:30:24 PM
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What do you think of using a drone to sight fish a river or other body of water ?
I have noticed many more people are using drones to capture images and video of fish in the water. With the cost of operating a drone camera drastically less than a few years ago , many people have them.
Will there be any new rules or laws created to stop this action ?
Or have I missed something and this is already considered the "norm" and now we are letting some drone users get away with this action.
I don't believe ALL drone users are flying over runs & pools specifically sight fishing with them, but you have to believe some will.
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just another fish finder.
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I haven't heard of anything regarding fishing but I can't see it being different than climbing a tree to look into the pool. I never did but I'm sure it's possible. Good point about using it for a searching tool.
I expect we'll soon learn of laws that restrict the use of drones for herding wildlife through a narrow passages where hunters take advantage of an opportunity.
Ban the drones.
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It is already illegal to use a drone while Hunting, fishing is a different story.
I can tell you where the fish are, but getting them to bite is a completely different. To me I don't see it becoming a real concern. I don't imagine too many anglers are going to want to pack a drone plus all their fishing gear to fish a hole then pack up and go to the next one. I guess some guides may use it before taking their clients out but fish move so how long is the information good for.
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I can see it now - some guy sitting on his lawn chair under Kieth Wilson bridge flying a drone and watching his iPhone. Once he sees a school coming up - down comes the drone and up comes the rod to flog the water through the school.
Maybe someone will start pushing/scaring bunched up fish in pools towards fishermen. Probably not though - too much hassle.
I wonder if CO's would use drones for river surveillance?
I think a lot more good will come from drones like the Search and Rescue on the news today.
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I can't believe someone would have a problem with this? Who cares? So you know there are some fish there - that in no way means you are going to catch them. If people were using them to sight fish and then chuck a stick of dynamite in the water, or proceed to throw weighted treble hooks at them, then yes - that is a problem.
I have a buddy who flies a drone regularly. He has tried using it fishing. It spooks fish (imagine that - as a bird is probably one of the biggest predators on fish and that would be imprinted even on adults). I'm not sure how effective it could possibly be then, knowing that it spooks most fish depending on the height you fly it at. You'd have to sight them, then let the run rest, and then still not know you're going to catch them. I'd rather not see them there, as that is more annoying sometimes.
Just to give you an idea of how ridiculous this sounds, consider what Reiber said. Would you also like to ban having a friend stand on a high point or in a tree to point you to where fish are on clear rivers? Completely ban fishing on clear rivers because being able to see them is unfair? Another fabricated "problem" to whine about.
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I can't believe people were using them to sight fish and then chuck a stick of dynamite in the water, or proceed to throw weighted treble hooks at them, then yes - that is a problem.
I have a buddy Another fabricated "problem" to whine about.
Hey - stop giving out ideas. Some ding-dong is going to try this.
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It scares fish in rivers, we have filmed with it and it does in fact scatter them if you get close at all.
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Thanks people !
I guess I have been the only person so far that has witnessed people using drones for an advantage.
Consistently witnessed two people fish 3 different runs top to bottom with a drone operator telling the angler where to cast and when to slow down the retrieve of the lure.
When the fish was spooked by the angler ( not drone) the two people communicated this and moved on.
Next run of River.... Same actions except when it was seen from above that there was no fish in the run the angler moved on again.
I have seen drones scare the fish as well, however the operator can just zoom in at a higher elevation.
I guess I just wanted to see if others are witnessing this.
If you have a problem with the topic, you don't need read it or respond. Calling names is not needed
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This topic came up last night in our livestream show on YouTube actually (was it one of you who brought it up?) after I had a couple of drone shots in the coho video we just put up. Someone asked if we were spotting fish with it to catch them. The answer is no, the fish were already everywhere, I just wanted to get a shot of them from the air for my video. Personally I think it's too much work if this is the goal. Drone batteries last for 25 minutes at max, you'd need to spend a lot of effort communicating between the angler and the drone operator, too little focus on the actual fishing. Plus, as others have brought it up, the drone scares fish like an eagle from above.
What is interesting though is to watch the behaviour of fish from above. I sped up the aerial clip of these coho. Can't really say anything conclusive from it, but it sure is cool to see the school of fish moving about that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL27rGjo8e4
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It sure would have been interesting to see a bird's eye view of the the bottom bouncing days on the Fraser.
It's possible the guys you saw were simply using their new technology just wanting to get footage of themselves catching fish.
The more I think about this, the more I think people are just having fun with a new toy. It would probably be a lot of wasted time and effort if it were used to spot and catch fish. Heck, if you have a fiend with a drone that wants to try it for spot and stalk fish then so what?
I would certainly voice an opinion to the drone operator it was buzzing around me while I was fishing.
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I have not watched the video Rod .
Just thought it to be an interesting sight to see on the river.
I don't think they were just out to take selfies with a fish lol.
It was the coaching of the angler from the drone operator that concerned me is all.
It is a slippery slope and the targeted species is already fighting a loosing battle.
Giving the angler a away to scout large stretches of River without having to actually walk it. That too me is nothing like having a buddy spot from a stationary tree or cliff.
Just sayin' .
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I would certainly voice an opinion to the drone operator it was buzzing around me while I was fishing.
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Any drone that gets within hitting distance of my rod would be quickly dispatched, even if I break my rod tip doing so. You've been forewarned. Last thing we need on the river while fishing...the buzzing. >:(
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Yup. I certainly wouldn't AVOID casting in the vicinity of a drone. If you catch my drift.
Treble hook wrapped with pencil lead on braided line should do the trick. I will just have to remember to put a piece of wool on it.
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-- Its all fun until there's a 100 of them.
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hopefully the relevant laws will soon be amended so that drones are subject to the same regulations & controls as RC aircraft. Then the entire problem will go away and we won't have to suffer fools with far more money than brains.
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I suppose if I was a drone hobbyist it would be great fun to scout water and guide my buddies where to cast, but for me it removes the element of fair chase and the hunt that I derive a great deal of personal satisfaction from.
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LOL, now all those secret spots will be revealed by these drone operators. You'll have to wear camo and camo your gear so the drone can't see anything... On a more serious note, I can see some people will see this as an invasion of their privacy. Was on a travel forum where someone wanted to know about bringing a drone to a resort. The response was overwhelmingly negative.
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Okay so now I want an RC Submarine with a camera feed to fool around and search while chironomid fishing.
Even more fun to deploy the sub if another boat gets in too cozy to my boat. Maybe even repeatedly bump the underside of the other boat with the sub. This could be more fun than actual fishing.
Maybe put on a quick release and pull a leech around behind the sub. Might need to camo the sub like a trout.
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Okay so now I want an RC Submarine with a camera feed to fool around and search while chironomid fishing.
I want one of these, even though I would hate anyone who actually does this. Feeling so conflicted :P
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I want one of these, even though I would hate anyone who actually does this. Feeling so conflicted :P
Life is too short to hate. Let's have a 7-Up. Cheers
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Life is too short to hate. Let's have a 7-Up. Cheers
My 7 are up almost every morning. Does that count?
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I've seen some youtube videos of guys using line and bait hanging off of drones, doing pretty well, too. Illegal, I presume? Might have to rewrite the regs.
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Any drone that gets within hitting distance of my rod would be quickly dispatched, even if I break my rod tip doing so. You've been forewarned. Last thing we need on the river while fishing...the buzzing. >:(
Jeez, sounds like more work for me ;D
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Jeez, sounds like more work for me ;D
Stop complaining. You don't fish the Vedder anymore anyway! :P
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as someone pointed out its just another fish finder. When commercial fishermen went from having no depth sounders to having them there catch increased overnight by 100 fold. Most old commercial guys i know contributed depth sounders to over fishing problems. U were no longer arbitrarily dropping your seign now you could sound them and incircle them.
They come out with a drone that can sight them and transmit what they see and return home it will be amazing. Now it's just manually doing it
advocator for the depth sounder to be removed before you guys start on dones
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I've seen some youtube videos of guys using line and bait hanging off of drones, doing pretty well, too. Illegal, I presume? Might have to rewrite the regs.
its illegal you can't use an automated reel, like using your downrigger for retrieving fish.
Tho if you have it connected to your rod and have a quick release off the drone that would be legal.
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These guys were just flying the drone higher to set the hook and then flying the drone and fish back to shore, on a lake catching trout and bass. Can't remember and can't find anymore, maybe taken down.
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Lots of videos on Youtube if you search "drone fishing":
Here's one where the guy catches a fish using a drone but he starts acting like an embarrassing child at around the 2:30 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iba7kCnkFos
Here's another by the same guy where he tries to fish again and things go down like you'd expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeEFN_Z5Eek
This is a more interesting take on it, starting around 8:00 in. He uses it to drop his bait way out in the ocean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNKzwfrmZi4
Here's a more detailed look at one of the techniques you can use to drop your bait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ir_kCEpGI
Dude Perfect did one a while back using RC boats to catch fish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEEvvq808A
I like technology and find this all very interesting but I go fishing to get away from it all, not to bring it with me. I hope that drones don't become part of the fishing gear :P
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My 7 are up almost every morning. Does that count?
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Oooff, I'm not going to touch this one. :P
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sdUZqOoAq4
Seen this one a while ago,
Selfie drones you can carry in your back pocket, drones for security and drones for military purposes/ law enforcement. Don't really see it as much of a fishing tool unless maybe for something like carp since you could probably drop the bait in areas where casting is either to far or limited due to trees.
I don't honestly see it becoming a widely used thing around here especially for salmon, gonna scare them away faster than some guy flossing a 6 oz betty, 10 foot leader of 40 pound mono with a 4/0 hook and a pinch of green wool. ;) But I must agree that the buzzing would drive me nuts especially if some guy decided to hover his drone above a run from 30 to 50 feet up for an extended period of time.
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I would think it is another step towards not being able to get away from it all by going into the woods. Kinda like when an annoying ringtone interrupts the song of a water ouzel or scares away an otter or deer, or interrupts a good conversation, except with drones the noise is much louder and longer in duration than a ringtone (and has less of a catchy tune!). I think we're hard-wired to be disturbed by anything that buzzes, natural or tech-based.
There are areas where flying drones is illegal. Any area with air traffic would be a definite no-no. This is an issue up in Haida Gwaii, especially Langara, where choppers and planes take off and land throughout any day of the week. Now think salt water fishing around Vancouver, Prince Rupert, Bella Bella, and near any shoreline operation which flies in their workers, and the prohibited areas tend to grow quite a bit.
That being said, drone footage is a thing of beauty. I still love a video I saw of fishing the Alagnak River. However, the sound of the drone was replaced with a most peaceful soundtrack.
My two cents.
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I could see it being useful for a learning exercise. You think you are fishing here but you are in fact fishing here. Your drift was too fast through here, too slow here. Something to give a visual to someone that needs help getting the feel of the river, stream, lake, whatever. As an every day occurrence, definitely more hassle than it is worth.