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Title: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: halcyonguitars on November 08, 2016, 10:30:17 AM
On the government chart showing discharge levels for the Squamish River near Brackendale, does anyone know what a good m/3 discharge level is? It currently shows it going up up up...
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: Stantonius on November 08, 2016, 12:07:58 PM
Up to 3.5ish is still fishable but be cautious... Anything like 5ish plus it's a no go with trees and root systems floating down the river!
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: Ambassador on November 08, 2016, 12:44:05 PM
We were up on Saturday and it was running at over 1000m/s and about 5.6 meters. It was scary how much water was flowing down - with dozens and dozens of fallen trees floating down with it. That level of water discharge could fill an Olympic swimming pool in 2.5 seconds. All of Howe sound around Squamish looked like a milky latte filled with debris.
At this level - the main river was literally an inch below the road just past the head of the gravel section.

We did mostly scouting - bad day to try to fish. One slip and you would have been a goner. My buddy pointed me to an app called "River App" - highly suggested. Decent search function to see what levels the rivers are at compared to normal. Good stuff to add to your journal if you keep one.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: James on November 08, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
River app is great !

But yeah .... I like it below 3.5 for sure to be safe.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: halcyonguitars on November 08, 2016, 12:54:07 PM
Thanks.

Really hoping it will be fishable tomorrow. Going either way...
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: leapin' tyee on November 08, 2016, 01:01:04 PM
Water level is slightly over 5m now.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: halcyonguitars on November 08, 2016, 01:05:54 PM
Thanks for the app info!

Apparently our guided trip has been cancelled, so be it.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: adecadelost on November 08, 2016, 03:30:33 PM
Anything over 3 is really a no go for me.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: Ambassador on November 08, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
This was just posted to the Sea to Sky Ministry website:

November 8, 2016 - Squamish River FSR and branch roads closed due to flooding and washouts. Closure in effect at 0km (where pavement turns into gravel). Closure subject to weather conditions so reopening date cannot be predicted. Check back for updates as they become available.

Looks like nobody is heading up there soon :-(

Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: bkk on November 09, 2016, 11:43:05 AM
The gauge now is just under 8 meters and it's still raining off and on. Road to the upper Squamish is under water and the community up there is now cut off and isolated. All of the rivers are in major flood. It will be a while before anything is remotely fishable. The freezing level is currently at 3200 meters and it's warm out with another heavy rain projected for the end of the week.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: Knnn on November 09, 2016, 11:51:46 AM
Ekk!

Now where the hell can I find some peace and solitude when I go fishing?
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: Seahawk on November 09, 2016, 06:48:50 PM
The gauge now is just under 8 meters and it's still raining off and on. Road to the upper Squamish is under water and the community up there is now cut off and isolated. All of the rivers are in major flood. It will be a while before anything is remotely fishable. The freezing level is currently at 3200 meters and it's warm out with another heavy rain projected for the end of the week.

Is there a web site someone can post that shows water levels please.


Thanks
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: bkk on November 09, 2016, 06:57:55 PM
http://wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/my_station_list/my_station_list_e.html?pedisable=true
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: halcyonguitars on November 09, 2016, 07:33:23 PM
Well, I guess that's why the trip was canceled...
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: Stantonius on November 10, 2016, 07:51:53 AM
Ekk!

Now where the hell can I find some peace and solitude when I go fishing?


Yep.. My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: dennisK on November 15, 2016, 04:52:11 PM
I have not fished the squish in a few years: traditionally I'd try around the mouth of the m'quam. Is that still a good place to start? I've tried along the forest service road around the 12 mile mark as well....

Any guidance appreciated? Yo can email me if you prefer as well. Thank you.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: htdub on November 17, 2016, 10:18:23 AM
thinking about going tomorrow, charts aren't too bad if the rain holds off (friday off woot)
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: ninez on November 17, 2016, 02:20:08 PM
Does it require winter tires to go up there now?
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: Ambassador on November 17, 2016, 03:05:09 PM
Does it require winter tires to go up there now?
Gets pretty sketchy just past where the road turns to gravel. From the Sea to Sky Forestry website:
Squamish River FSR: 
Road is extremely rough due to recent flooding. Washouts remain and travel is not advised. Travel at your own discretion; 4WD vehicle access only. You may become stranded when travelling this road and the road may be inaccessible for an extended period of time. Be prepared.


https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/dsq/Engineering/RoadInformation.htm#SQUAMISH_FSR
 (https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/dsq/Engineering/RoadInformation.htm#SQUAMISH_FSR)
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: Knnn on November 17, 2016, 09:53:21 PM
thinking about going tomorrow, charts aren't too bad if the rain holds off (friday off woot)

Although water levels have dropped, visibility in the main stem is still pretty poor in the region of 1-1.5 feet (today).  It may be better tomorrow with the lower freezing level.  The Mamqaum  has good visibility 5-6 feet and therefore visibility adjacent to the lower bar is decent.

If I recall correctly you only need winter rated tires past the Alice Lake turnoff to go to whistler, or carry chain.

The FSR is clear, but pretty muddy at the moment with quite a few soft sections due to all the recent repairs.  If you have decent tires you should be ok for a little while longer until the snow arrives.  Always be careful if it rains a lot and the water levels come up as sections of the road wash out regularly and you would not want to be stranded on the wrong side.  The guidance says 4WD, but if there is no snow 2WD is ok.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: eager_rookie on November 18, 2016, 02:19:20 PM
Winter tires are required on the whole sea to sky from lions bay and up. Visibility on the squamish was poor again today.
Title: Re: 'Good' water height for Squamish?
Post by: dennisK on November 18, 2016, 05:25:09 PM
Water was excellent this morning around the mouth of the mamquam. Bite was on a few hours before high tide until about 10:30 am or so. A lot of guys out - saw about 15 at the peak...got a nice doe on red wool (what a fluke) and broke my cheapo bonker to boot lol. Lost about 3 more. Just a good day on the river before the rains come...

https://vid.me/mSZJ

ps...adjust the video quality at above link to at least 720p or 1080p for better quality...for some reason it defaults to auto which is very blocky.