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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on July 26, 2016, 03:22:19 PM
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From the Fraser River Sportfishing Alliance:
"The newly formed Fraser River SportFishing Alliance is demanding adequate notice for our planned August 1st chinook salmon opening. There is a strong indication that this opening may be delayed due to pressure from other sectors and demonstrates that recreational anglers come last in management decisions. The Alliance is committed to fishing August 1st, either legally for retention as planned or in protest.
The objective of August 1st is to demonstrate that the recreational community will no longer accept being treated as 2nd class citizens. In jeopardy is our current fishery, our fishing future and our children's heritage. Currently chinook salmon are being retained while recreational anglers are denied any opportunity to fish for salmon. This is not acceptable policy and it needs rectifying immediately.
All anglers must stand united to change this inequitable treatment in managing this fishery worth 100 million dollars annually. Our rights as Canadian citizens are being denied. We will continue to support conservation as required but only if shared by all users in a fair and equitable manner or the future of recreational fishing and the healthy runs of fish will be past history.
The Fraser River SportFishing Alliance demands transparency and accountability in management now. We are seeking your support to help change the injustice that continues to destroy the social and economic values of this resource. Please help by joining us August 1st to assist in sending a united voice that changes must take place now!"
Registration for the protest will now take place between 7:00am and Noon at Island 22 on August 1st. The alliance wants participants to register so catches can also be recorded and data can be presented to DFO later.
The above is FYI, what are your thoughts on the protest?
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I like the protest.
I like the registration and data collection point at the bottom. Not only is Fraser River Sportfishing Alliance getting their point across to DFO, they're also helping by providing extremely helpful data.
Additionally, I can't imagine trying to be a guide in this situation, how can you run a business not knowing whether the office will be open for appointments!?
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I like the registration and data collection point at the bottom... they're also helping by providing extremely helpful data.
Yeah, like who to throw in jail. :)
What are my thoughts on the protest, Rod asked? I don't have an emotional connection to fishing the Fraser for chinook, nor do I have a business that is impacted. I'm just a recreational angler who will recreate elsewhere. No big deal. There are plenty of fish in the sea.
I will add that most who protest will never understand the complexities of issues, that the protest is a thinly veiled effort to protect business interests, and the attached news release loses credibility with its' huffing and puffing of multiple demands and claiming that our rights as Canadian citizens are being denied.
As you can probably guess, I won't be at the protest on Aug 1.
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There is a strong indication that this opening may be delayed ...and demonstrates that recreational anglers come last in management decisions.
Yeah and what else is new? This is actually how the law requires such decisions be made.
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I totally agree with Clarki
I`ve been fishing for almost 3 years now , and every year is getting worse and worse .
I met few people on this forum and they introduced me to another types of fishing , so it doesn`t really bothers me .
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It bothers me. Even if I dont even want to fish for them at this time. Its not about that. Its about having your right to fish when other groups are being allowed. Why are sport fishermen not allowed when we dont even make a small dent in the total numbers of fish being retained? I could understand this IF sport fishermen made a significant impact on the fishery but they dont.
I am so busy with other things in my life that I wont be able to attend this but if I didnt have prior commitments I would be attending.
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Yeah and what else is new? This is actually how the law requires such decisions be made.
I am curious as my understanding of the law is different. I was always taught it went Conservation - First Nation Food/Social/Ceremonial - Sport Fishing - Commercial (including First Nation as it is and fish must be kept separate from any F/S/C catch). When did this change or have I been misinformed for years by the DFO, schools, and the such?
To all those who oppose it because they do not fish the Fraser when you will take a stand. The Seabird, Kwantlen, and Katzie Nations have already launched a lawsuit to end sportfishing for Chinook in the Marine zone (Vancouver Island East) because fish being caught are headed for the Fraser. Is not being able to fish in the Straight enough to make you protest? What is?
I fully understand and agree with not supporting the protest because you believe that no one should be fishing the Early Chinook or something. But to not support it because it doesn't directly affect you I cannot, nor will I ever, understand. One day it will be your river or lake in question, and there will be no one to support you. (For the Record, I don't fish the Fraser for Chinook but know lots that do and I fully support them)
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I think clarki makes good points
Looks like nothing more than "I better get my share" to me.
Not my way of looking at life personally~
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"It doesn't affect me,,i don't fish the Fraser"....your rights are being challenged to fish people. First nations will not stop on the Fraser, they have made it perfectly clear that they believe they alone should have controlling rights to fish. This has included lakes as well, and also the Ocean. Sit back and let the few anglers who see this fight the fight, don't worry, your voice doesn't matter.. let DFO be controlled by first nations.. it will NEVER AFFECT your choice of angling will it?? That's because you fish some where besides a lake or river or the ocean right? Head shaking.... fight now or forever hold your piece
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Well said Tylsie and Cammer, some just dont get it! See you Monday.
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I don't get it.
Tylsie said it - after conservation First Nations have first access to fish, guaranteed by parliament. It is not a DFO decision.
No fish = no fishing for guides. How will a protest fishery change this?
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I am curious as my understanding of the law is different. ...
Taught by who? The priorities set out by the Supreme Court of Canada in the Sparrow decision was - Conservation requirements - 1st nations Rights - Commercial fisheries - Sport Fishing.
FOC/DFO has actually favored Sport fishing over Commercial fisheries in the Fraser. 1st Nations groups have argued that tide water Sport fisheries that are allowed in certain areas when the Fraser itself is closed put Sport Fishing ahead of all the other priorities specified in the Sparrow case.
Part of the issue is the Sport Fishing Community is far more schizophrenic than the other 2 sectors & we have the FRSA talking at odds with the rest of the community because they want to fish regardless.
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Sportfishers do not have the "right" to fish, we have the privilege, First Nations have the constitutional right.
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The priorities set out by the Supreme Court of Canada in the Sparrow decision was - Conservation requirements - 1st nations Rights - Commercial fisheries - Sport Fishing.
THAT in itself is the problem. If the goal is conservation, what purpose does it serve to impose the most harsh restrictions where they are least effective? Stop all sport fishing and the effect on the salmon population will be minimal so this approach is counter productive to actual conservation efforts. In addition, consider the economic effects of one fish from a sport fisherman; how much do you do you spend and pump into the economy to catch that one fish compared to how much a commercial fisherman spends PER FISH.
The issue is that government bodies are restricting civilian fishing under the guise of conservation without ever actually accomplishing that goal. Not only should fisherman be protesting this system of priority but conservationists should do. It's ridiculous on paper, "If we want to affect the population we'd better start in the lease effective place".
It's like imposing a fireban to save the forests while allowing them to be clearcut.
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It's about time that recreational fishermen also get some representation as no one is looking out for their interest.
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So the solution to no fish is more fishing? Something doesn't smell right.
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So the solution to no fish is more fishing? Something doesn't smell right.
The solution to no fish is to protest the ineffective methods that are being used to try and conserve them.
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The solution to no fish is to protest the ineffective methods that are being used to try and conserve them.
Nonsense - this is about the smallest child crying because they can't have the last popsicle.
There are no more popsicles. Time to find another line of work.
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First of all, it's not just sour grapes for one Canadian (or group thereof) to expect equal access to resources as another. Also, part of the issue here is not just regulation of recreational fishing it's the indifference shown toward it. If the opening is to be delayed it's unacceptable that no one has been told so in any certain terms.
Whether or not fishing is the solution you can't ignore that there is a problem when you have populations dropping the way we've seen. The fact is that banning sport fishing does not make a big enough difference to actually affect the populations. Recreational fisherman are being scapegoated to give the illusion of action because of political impedance a to limiting commercial fishing opportunities (which would actually make a difference in the fish populations).
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I thought I'd post an up–to-date graph for Albion July Chinook catch as compared to other years. The graph reflects data up to July 26.
I hope the graph will address the 'no more popsicles' argument. I'd be curious to know when Fraser opened in 2011, 2012 and 2013, as we have already surpassed the returns for those years.
(https://s31.postimg.org/eh6m0k2jf/Chinook_July.png)
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It bothers me. Even if I dont even want to fish for them at this time. Its not about that. Its about having your right to fish when other groups are being allowed. Why are sport fishermen not allowed when we dont even make a small dent in the total numbers of fish being retained? I could understand this IF sport fishermen made a significant impact on the fishery but they dont.
I agree (albeit without knowing the exact ratio of commercial vs sport-fished Springs caught) - one can reasonably assume the commercial fishery would be responsible for pulling a much larger percentage of catchable fish from local waters vs the sportfishing community.
I will add that most who protest will never understand the complexities of issues, that the protest is a thinly veiled effort to protect business interests
Clarki - I'll admit I'm not fully informed of the complexities of this issue - can I ask who you are referring to? As you can tell from above - I like to assume - and in this instance assume you are speaking of businesses like fishing guides, tackle shops, etc?
I totally agree with Clarki
I`ve been fishing for almost 3 years now , and every year is getting worse and worse .
What is getting worse and worse? Are you speaking of access to places and fisheries that you are allowed to go fish?
I realize there are plenty of different fisheries from Pikeminnow to Sturgeon around here - but Springs are a trophy that many anglers dream of getting on the end of their line at least once in their lives. I have yet to land my first Spring - but have all the gear and have put in multiple days in different fisheries hunting for my first one. I'm not a huge fan of the idea that the commercial boats can come fill Jimmy Pattison's freezers and pockets while the rest of us are standing at the sidelines waiting for an opportunity that may never come.
I'm sure fishing for pikeminnows is fun - but...
If the goal is conservation, what purpose does it serve to impose the most harsh restrictions where they are least effective? Stop all sport fishing and the effect on the salmon population will be minimal so this approach is counter productive to actual conservation efforts. In addition, consider the economic effects of one fish from a sport fisherman; how much do you do you spend and pump into the economy to catch that one fish compared to how much a commercial fisherman spends PER FISH.
Agreed. I have a lot more interest in the health and conservation of our waterbodies/waterways since I got into fishing.
I shudder to think how much the cost per fish I catch is - and I'm sure would be cheaper to go buy big chrome slabs from Whole Foods - but fishing has become so much more that just catching to me now. Now it is more about the journey and the solitude I can find - with the odd fish on my line adding adrenaline to fuel the fire.
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I will add that most who protest will never understand the complexities of issues [...] and the attached news release loses credibility with its' huffing and puffing of multiple demands and claiming that our rights as Canadian citizens are being denied.
Sums it up for me. Just because you aren't getting what you want doesn't mean it's necessarily unfair. Are the regulations equal for all groups? No. Are they fair? I think that DFO tries to make them fair, with varying amounts of success. Thing is, you don't get to pick and choose which rules you abide by. Fishing illegally to protest a regulation you disagree with is not going to make anybody look good :P
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The decisions need to be transparent and based on the numbers. Conservation actions also need to apply uniformly to all groups. If there is shortage of salmon, all groups should sacrifices, FN included. There should be no discrimination either way.
Saying that there are complexities we don't understand involved isn't a proper way to move forward. If there are additional facts – lay them out. The gist of the issue, is that a decision to keep river closed to recreational fishing would be unfair. We can go on and on how little of impact the recs have but the base of it – all should be treated equal.
When was the idea of being equal given up on?
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Given the references to commercial catch vs sport catch best I know there have been no targeted commercial fisheries on Fraser Chinook in quite a period of years. Does anyone have different information?
Best I know there's been little or no troll fishery in the Straight or Juan DeFuca for chinook or coho for many years either.
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but the base of it – all should be treated equal.
When was the idea of being equal given up on?
Equal or fair?
I don't get free post secondary education or income/sales tax breaks (Humorous side note...my Japanese buddy bought me a coke, after a day of fishing, at the Seabird Island gas station and the attendant hit the "First Nations discount" button on the till when he went to pay. :))
I am not equal. Equality is over rated.
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I'm okay with the argument that early notice of delayed openings should be available. I agree it would be hard to run a business without that kind of information. It's not like the decision will change between last week and next week. Flow is down, temperatures are up, test sets are weak.
Transparency is nice to have, but it isn't a right.
Equal doesn't exist when it comes to access to fish. You can make the superficial argument that we should all be equal, but that simply is not true according to the law of the land. Don't like it? Lobby your MP to change it.
None of this warrants a protest fishery.
One possible (likely?) outcome is that they all get arrested, spend a lot of money on lawyers, waste a lot of taxpayer money on the court process, then have the crown drop the charges. This will cause the protesters to declare victory then do it all over again next year.
Congrats, you have managed to share the misery. Feel better?
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What? Lobby your MP to change it? Should I also believe in Santa now?
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Equal or fair?
I don't get free post secondary education or income/sales tax breaks (Humorous side note...my Japanese buddy bought me a coke, after a day of fishing, at the Seabird Island gas station and the attendant hit the "First Nations discount" button on the till when he went to pay. :))
I am not equal. Equality is over rated.
I think you need to educate yourself before making such uneducated statements.
To start with I am FN and I did not get free post secondary education at all and like millions of others non FN, I paid my own ride through post secondary. Ask my daughter or niece who are both still struggling to pay student loans if they also got free post secondary education. Yes there are grants through their FN band and scholarships available to qualifying students but it is certainly no free ride. If I wanted to go back to university, I would not qualify at all, so no free ride for me again.
As for income tax, I pay every 2 weeks just like any other Canadian does. The only time a FN person does not pay tax is when their job is on an actual reserve. Note that there are very few exceptions to this and is plainly spelled out in the CRA tax regulations.
Sales tax - Believe me, I pay my allotment of sales taxes just like you do. They only time I don't is when purchasing on a reserve - which for me is rare as although I live in the LM, traveling to the closest reserve is usually not worth it. And don't think for a moment that everything is tax free. Last year I purchased a new boat and motor (and paid taxes) had I purchased only a boat and not a motor and the boat was delivered to a reserve, I still would have had to pay taxes on that boat because there was no motor in the purchase. Don't believe me, call Cascade Marine in Chilliwack as they go through this on a regular basis.
For fresh water fishing, I don't pay for a freshwater licence and that is my right as decreed by Canadian Law. However I still have to (and willingly do) follow all BC fishing regulations just like every other non FN. This year alone, I have been checked 3x by CO's when fishing up in the interior. The second time, the CO was impressed with my knowledge of regulations for not only the area I was in but also another area that I had fish in my possession from In lieu of of not paying for a licence, over the years I have donated to Ducks Unlimited, BC Wildlife Federation, Nature Trust of BC to name a few. Even if I did have to pay for a licence, I would still donate to these organizations.
As for salt water fishing. Every year I pony up the money for a salt water licence and salmon tag just like thousands of other non FN do. There are rather strict regulations for FN to NOT require a licence and with those regs, I don't qualify and do not mind having to pay for a licence. Again. I follow all regs and consider myself a very ethical sportsman. In fact, last year, I stopped fishing with one of my buddies out on the salt as he does not always like to follow regs and ethics. And he is not FN...I'll leave it at that.
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My apologies, Birkenhead. I did not mean to imply that it was a "free ride" for all FN. That was not my intent at all. Thanks for clarifying; you know far better than I.
Rather my point was with some who bemoan the lack of equality. Yes, in some cases there is not equality... but that's the way it should be. There should be some inequality between the rights and/or priviledges afforded to FN vs non-FN.
I can see how my earlier comments could be miscontrued. I trust I haven't made it worse.
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My apologies, Birkenhead. I did not mean to imply that it was a "free ride" for all FN. That was not my intent at all. Thanks for clarifying; you know far better than I.
Rather my point was with some who bemoan the lack of equality. Yes, in some cases there is not equality... but that's the way it should be. There should be some inequality between the rights and/or priviledges afforded to FN vs non-FN.
I can see how my earlier comments could be miscontrued. I trust I haven't made it worse.
Apology accepted. Unfortunately there is a lot of misguided myths and uneducated "facts" about FN that need to be corrected so that non FN understand that a FN person's life is never a free ride.
As for the protest fishery, I have no fish in the fight, so to speak. However I don't see the point of holding a protest fishery to catch the very same fish that people are trying to protect. There is no logic in that.
Also what happens if the DFO and CO's decide to fine and penalize the protesting fishermen to make an example out of them? Are these fisherman cognizant and accepting of the fact they could lose their fishing licence and possibly end up with a criminal record for the rest of their lives over a rather petty - but still illegal action?
Explain that when you apply for a job which requires a security clearance that you cannot get due to your criminal record. Or what happens when you decide to take your family on vacation somewhere such as the USA and you get denied by their border security because of your criminal record? Explain that to your wife and kids that your long planned trip to Disneyland is now canceled as you were denied entry.
The reason I mention the above, I know someone who partook in a protest (non fishery) back in the mid 1990's and this is what happened to him. In my view, it is a very steep price that I would not want to pay.
As for any legal action that organizations such as the Fraser River SportFishing Alliance wishes to pursue. I hope they have very deep pockets and a strong resolve to see it through. Mounting and commencing legal action and lobbying takes years and a boatload of money. Especially since cases such as this in all probability, require Federal Parliamentary action and may very well end up in the Supreme Court of Canada.
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Sportfishers do not have the "right" to fish, we have the privilege, First Nations have the constitutional right.
Yeah yeah, how could they get by without selling fish on Craigslist?
And since when did business interests trump a citizens interest? the whole thing absolutely reek...period.
Poor poor Pattison, how will he get by if recreational fishermen take a few hundred or few thousand fish.
All things should be equal, and that's the crux that pisses most of us off, are we all not citizens of the great nation?, since when is it OK for one segment of our society to have more rights to anything over another, regardless of race, colour of skin, religion or sexuality..isn't that's what keeps getting rammed down our throats right now?
Why should one resource be different over another?
Stand up now or bow later.
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What cracks me up is that people are moaning about not getting their fair share instead of realizing the whole system is broken. People are fighting over the crumbs instead of realizing that there used to be plenty for everybody. Oh, sure, everybody sees that and blames it on the respective boogie man, farm fishing, seals, global warming, logging, fishing, etc. Instead of working together to figure out solutions or other possible reasons, more effort is put into claiming more crumbs for certain groups. Those boogie men are distant and there isn't much any one person can do to change those.
Maybe each of those boogie men are the cause all together, maybe there are other things. If people were adults and thinking about the future, there would be numerous study groups set up encompassing FN, sports and commercial fishing, scientists, gov't officials, businesses, including counterparts from the states, etc. Oh, what, there was one recently? There should be multiple groups meeting. The goal shouldn't be how are we going to divvy up the crumbs left but how are we going to rebuild populations so that 10, 15, 100, 500 years from now our rivers are teeming with salmon. I applaud the efforts of some on this board of going up and counting spawners and if the numbers are down, figuring out why and fixing it. Or the effort of cleaning up the habitat because people are absolutely disgusting and refuse to treat the land with respect. I'd like to see a group set up bigger than anything previous that focuses on spawning habitat all the way up and down the Fraser. Find places that used to be packed with fish and find out why they aren't anymore. Have another that focuses on main river issues, poaching, obstacles, insufficient or too much water flow, etc. Have another that focuses on ocean obstacles, commercial fishing, seals, orcas, deep sea fishing and definitely includes Alaska and Washington voices and maybe some Asian countries on the deep sea nets. Each of these groups meet, discuss, find ways to improve things. Each comes back with a proposal of 3-5 things that can be done now to help. Then you do those things. Turn this crap around and get it going in the right direction instead of thinking about right now and what you can get.
For a protest fishery, the thought is there are plenty of fish and we want our share. Yet, I don't see how anybody can say there are plenty of fish and we just aren't getting our share. If there were plenty of fish, we wouldn't be worrying about this because everybody's share would be big enough (except for those that just can't get enough of course). Why would you hurt the very thing you are trying to save? Except this isn't about saving the salmon for future generations, this is give me what I deserve now because I am not getting enough.
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Yeah yeah, how could they get by without selling fish on Craigslist?
And since when did business interests trump a citizens interest? the whole thing absolutely reek...period.
Poor poor Pattison, how will he get by if recreational fishermen take a few hundred or few thousand fish.
All things should be equal, and that's the crux that pisses most of us off, are we all not citizens of the great nation?, since when is it OK for one segment of our society to have more rights to anything over another, regardless of race, colour of skin, religion or sexuality..isn't that's what keeps getting rammed down our throats right now?
Why should one resource be different over another?
Stand up now or bow later.
Cracking down on the illegal sale of salmon will help. Treat the buyers like johns - forfeit their vehicle.
You should have stood up 30 years ago when the Sparrow decision occurred.
Life is not equal or fair. The roots of this unfairness were sprouted hundreds of years ago. Wishing for the world to be different will only frustrate you.
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Oops. I guess it's moot now.
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=40050.msg377396;topicseen#new
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I guess people missed my point back a page or 2 ago - there is no commercial fishery for chinook or coho in the Fraser or in the South Coast Inside waters. Prove me wrong. Yet people keep bringing this stuff up about Pattison etc.
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(Not trying to justify it but) since when fishing in a closed area gets you a criminal record? :o
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What? Lobby your MP to change it? Should I also believe in Santa now?
Apparently someone still believes in Santa or Jean Chretien keeping his promise that GST is only temporary.
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Its still a biased fishery, selective methods are to be used, yet how selective is a net. Nets should be banned from the Fraser and the fish supply problem would be solved. Simple and effective, FN would not have limits imposed for using selective methods but drift netting the Fraser is NOT SELECTIVE. BAN THE NETS.
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Depending on the net mesh it can be fairly select actually. I hate nets in the river as much as anybody but if you are using the larger Chinook mesh size, sockeye are not going to be caught except rarely.
Witth nets in the river, a couple FN bad eggs "accidentally" using the smaller mesh and catching sockeye is a concern. Like most fishing these days, monitoring and enforcement is extremely lacking.
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hmm... this protest fishery seems to be moot point, now that DFO opened fishing on the Fraser.
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Now that the fishery is open on August 1st, we may never know the impact of the 'threat' of a protest fishery on the decision to open the fishery by DFO on the day of the intended protest. Perhaps DFO doesn't need more messy news of arrests of loads of recreational fishermen and the possible embarrassment of media coverage of their mismanagement of the fishery? Who knows. The politicians who control the openings don't need negative press to reach up to the high echelon of the government in Ottawa. If it is a matter of a few days to open it already in their plan, they may just move up the opening just to avoid this from becoming a bad news for them. We will probably never know because DFO will never say they cave in to the 'threat' from recreational fishermen, LOL. ;D ;D
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Hoping selective fishing will take place. last year is was pretty good up to the Agassiz Rosedale Bridge but above there was some still to much TOWing going on by those that donot know or by those that just donot care. :-X ::) :o
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The final numbers are in for July. This graph summarizes Albion chinook catch for July 2016.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/fx9vyg.png)
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The final numbers are in for July. This graph summarizes Albion chinook catch for July 2016.
I dont follow this fishery all that closely. Was it kept closed in 2011/12/13 when the test fishery showed very low returns?
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--If the true intent is to bring attention to different management strategy then the protest fishery should still occur.
--Wear salmon coloured T-shirts or something.
--Show up with picket sign and don't fish on the 1st.
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I guess people missed my point back a page or 2 ago - there is no commercial fishery for chinook or coho in the Fraser or in the South Coast Inside waters. Prove me wrong. Yet people keep bringing this stuff up about Pattison etc.
adds on cragslist at sockeye run "1 fish 5$ if u buy 10 or more" - that's not commercial ?! where was topic a year ago when dfo busted 1 boat , but where hundreds of them ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuseR1aYsDc old video , but dated September , when its a bait ban for us :)
now to be honest , how many fish can you eat / smoke / freeze as part of your life depends on it ?! 10 ? 100? 1000?
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adds on cragslist at sockeye run "1 fish 5$ if u buy 10 or more" - that's not commercial ?! where was topic a year ago when dfo busted 1 boat , but where hundreds of them ....
My post clearly said chinook & coho - what do you mention above? Never mind.
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My post clearly said chinook & coho - what do you mention above? Never mind.
this is one example , in mission were tons of boats on Saturday scooping springs , im pretty sure it will be aviable for sale soon ...
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Again I don't know what you are getting at. An example in Mission - did you miss something? The youtube link is the Cap not the Fraser and it's been posted umpteen times since it was first put up in 2012 - it's a native fishery & they are fishing the Cap for hatchery coho.
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mission scooping spring happened to be in fraser , the amount of fish bonked pretty sure will be higher than commercials could of done , my point is : doesn't matter where how or why - but there should be reasonable quota not in timing openings , but fish wise .
some excuses like they need those fish as that is their source of food - are right , but amount of fish is ridiculas . u cant eat fish every day for breakfast dinner and supper , u will really get sick of that , so what do u think happens to majority of the catch ?! frozen/smoked ?! like really ?! all that fish ?! I don`t think so .....
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well it's your opinion and we all know what they say about opinions... as far as scooping springs out of the Fraser at Mission as far as I can tell this could just a figment of your imagination.
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but there should be reasonable quota not in timing openings , but fish wise .
Have you ever read through a DFO FN fishery notice or you're just venting for the sport?
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The picture I took is in this story for those that do not get the Chilliwack http://www.theprogress.com/news/389085761.htmlrogress.
Also the vid I filmed I donot think I posted it before I was away for the last 5 days. https://youtu.be/j_lhp3ogN0A
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The picture I took is in this story for those that do not get the Chilliwack
Broken link above,fixed: http://www.theprogress.com/news/389085761.html
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well it's your opinion and we all know what they say about opinions... as far as scooping springs out of the Fraser at Mission as far as I can tell this could just a figment of your imagination.
my bud in mission since yesterday , and yesterday netting was going on :) 0 fish caught between few anglers at different spots ... but its just my imagination
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perhaps it's the terrible grammar in your posts as I can't quite understand what you are trying to say.
FWIW there is no commercial opening on the Fraser.
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Broken link above,fixed: http://www.theprogress.com/news/389085761.html
Thanks.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/protest-averted-sports-anglers-get-permission-to-fish-for-chinook-salmon/article31215788/?utm_source=Watershed+Watch+Email+List&utm_campaign=a6b6e165f2-Salmon_News_Aug_4_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_405944b1b5-a6b6e165f2-166912013
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Maybe if Ernie Crey is so concerned for the fish he should tell his band members not to be drifting gill nets for the last 2 days seing as they don't have an opening. Fox guarding the chicken coop doesn't end well.
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Lower Fraser River has been open for communal sockeye salmon this weekend. You can check for all the openings at:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html
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They had set net only opening no drift nets
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(http://static.theglobeandmail.ca/4d2/news/british-columbia/article31215787.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/hume31nw1.JPG)
Looks stressful.
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Crap I hope that's not a photo from this year...