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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: zacrum on September 08, 2015, 09:26:54 PM

Title: Opinions wanted
Post by: zacrum on September 08, 2015, 09:26:54 PM
I witnessed a bit of a scuffle down at the surrey docks today   and would like some input    a guy was casting   and another man had his rod lying in every ones way   and it happened to get hooked and tossed in and could not be recovered     ( this man had had his rod lying there most of the day not paying attention or moving it when asked )  and he proceeds  to yell and cus saying it's the other guys fault   even after   the other guy offered to help come to a solution    now do you guys think this was a 50 50 type if thing   where they both could have done things to avoid it or is one person more at fault than the other           on a side not there is apparently 1000$ set up around the surrey docks it any one catches it
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: ShaunO on September 08, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
my smelly socks happens. Don't leave your gear laying around where bunches of other people are fishing.  Especially during a Pink year  8)
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Post by: ShaunO on September 08, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
My smelly socks = poop  8)
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Post by: zacrum on September 08, 2015, 09:37:56 PM
See thats what I think to   I mean either have your gear in your hand   or out of harms way
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Post by: Rieber on September 08, 2015, 09:48:03 PM
That's great comedy. I wish I was there to see this.

Sucks for the guy who lost his gear but too bad chump - move it or lose it.

$1000 set up lost - lucky nobody got stabbed over this. That of course would not be funny at all.  :-\

Geez - $1000 would have bought him a lot of Pink Salmon.  ::)
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Post by: zacrum on September 08, 2015, 09:56:02 PM
Exactly  I mean who uses a 600 reel and 400 rod for pinks ..... it was really  fun to watch at first until he started to look like he would get violent
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Post by: NiceFish on September 08, 2015, 10:10:24 PM
Okay so you use your 1000 dollar set up for pinks, whatever.... I could see some people doing that.

HOWEVER, who the heck leaves their 1000 dollar set up lying around carelessly?
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: zacrum on September 08, 2015, 10:11:09 PM
That to     especially on an over crowded tiny dock in the middle of surrey
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Post by: DionJL on September 08, 2015, 10:12:03 PM
I'll admit I hooked my buddies spinning rod about 4 weeks ago while fishing out of a boat and it fell into the water. Before I could get a net on it, it sank. The rod was standing up vertically, so it was kind of in the way, but I felt that I should always be in control of where my hook is. I paid replacement value.
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Post by: Tenz85 on September 08, 2015, 10:23:11 PM
I'd bet he has a couple icbc claims in the works too.
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Post by: Blood_Orange on September 08, 2015, 10:27:43 PM
Seems a little fishy that he would leave such an expensive setup just lying around. The dollar value was probably overinflated but the guy who hooked it has some responsibility, too. It would have been a nice gesture to make some kind of monetary offer to the guy who lost his rod but if he was claiming $1000 then I can't see them agreeing on a price. Glad it didn't come to violence!
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Post by: Fish Assassin on September 08, 2015, 10:46:56 PM
Was that guy fishing ?
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Post by: riptide on September 08, 2015, 10:55:40 PM
Surprised someone didn't break out their hidden betties and start flossing for it . Joking of course
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: zacrum on September 08, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
At the time nope he was sitting in a chair taking up space   a good 4 feet from where he had his rod lying down wich was about 2 feet from the water   but no line in or any thing    kinda like he wanted it to happen
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: zacrum on September 08, 2015, 10:58:04 PM
Not gunna lie  tons of people did Bettys  and trebels trying to get the rod   but no such luck    I was gunna pull out the tanks and wet suit but it's the fraser don't wanna see body's tho
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Post by: cutthroat22 on September 08, 2015, 10:58:24 PM
Hmm I'd take a couple days off work to floss a $1000 setup.  Also, if being technical, it's illegal to leave a rod unattended.
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Post by: zacrum on September 08, 2015, 11:04:04 PM
If the rod was line in water yes   of it a rod not in use   and line out of water  is it really  illegal ?
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Post by: Knnn on September 08, 2015, 11:13:55 PM
If he was asked to move it, and choose not to move an expensive piece of kit out of harms way, then he understood the risks and he is responsible for the loss.  In the UK we have a term for people like this...Wanker.
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Post by: DanL on September 08, 2015, 11:17:50 PM
this man had had his rod lying there most of the day not paying attention or moving it when asked

hehe who the heck does this? leave a $1000 rig lying around unattended "most of the day"? I agree with the other posters, Move it, use it, or lose it.
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Post by: Animal Chin on September 08, 2015, 11:19:14 PM
It's like they say in boxing, "protect yourself at all times". Ultimately, you're responsible for yourself and your stuff ... he was asked to move his rod. Given the scenario you presented the caster has no responsibility for the lost rod.

An apology would have been the civilized thing to do.

Regardless, even if the behavior of the parties were reversed, you're still responsible for your own rod. The only way I could see siding with the lost rod would have been if the caster was purposely trying to send it into the water.
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: zacrum on September 09, 2015, 12:25:26 AM
Thank you   glad to see I'm not alone on this    need less  to say   the guy didn't feel that way and started calling friends
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Post by: Tylsie on September 09, 2015, 12:32:36 AM
Pretty much agree with everyone. He should of moved his rod. He chose to leave it in harms way and it was lost. His fault. Accidents happen. But how I wish that someone would of flossed it out and it was a walmart special.
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: zacrum on September 09, 2015, 12:41:43 AM
He claims it was worth 1 g   but from what I recall the reel was a penn 330 gt   and the rod was a magnum   total bill maybe 350   that's being generous
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Post by: Zackattack on September 09, 2015, 12:46:19 AM
It was gold plated
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Post by: 243Pete on September 09, 2015, 06:20:37 AM
Sounds like a scam in the making, a Penn 330GT and some cheap rod claiming $1000 dollars?  :o Gold plated with 24carat wrapped guides?
Oh well, simple rule is that if you are unsure of something, best to just ask him/her to move their stuff anyways cause that can save a lot of headache.
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Post by: Fish or cut bait. on September 09, 2015, 09:16:44 AM
That must also have been one heck of a cast to launch that set up.
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Post by: typhoon on September 09, 2015, 09:28:40 AM
Usually there are two sides to a story; sometimes three.
This sounds fishy. If he was told to get out of the way and didn't, I can see someone purposely snagging his rod to make a point.
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Post by: clarki on September 09, 2015, 10:53:27 AM
On many occasions, while walking along a river shoreline, I have stepped on, nearly stepped on, or narrowly avoided stepping on a fishing rod that an angler has left lying on the ground while he attends to something else.

Unfortunately, a drab, thin, piece of graphite blends remarkable well into a rocky or sandy shore. Normally, when passing behind a group of anglers, I pay attention to what may be lying on the ground, but even when doing that I have almost crunched a rod or two.

I always try to lean my rod against something, jam the butt into the rocks, or even prop it up with my vest so it has a slightly more obvious profile. If I have to leave it on the ground I never turn my back to it. 

I feel little compunction, and no sense of obligation to pay him for damages if it happens. His carelessness, not mine.   
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: zacrum on September 09, 2015, 11:09:52 AM
I'm deffinatly not hating on surrey    as I grew up in surrey  and as far as the cast being on purpose   I doubt it    as all day that caster was doing great at saving his casts from the other rod owners   grandchild who was running around the dock causing havoc       a slip up  in casting is highly probable    I have a feeling like there needs to be signs up on densely  populated fishinh areas explaining to keep gear out of casting areas
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: doja on September 09, 2015, 01:22:32 PM
I had my rod stepped on one day...  Not for a second did I think it was anyone else fault but my own...
Title: Re: Opinions wanted
Post by: Animal Chin on September 09, 2015, 09:47:53 PM
I had my rod stepped on one day...  Not for seconded did I think it was anyone else fault but my own...

Same thing happened to my buddy. He was unhooking his fish that he just landed..... an old timers eyes us and walks over.... "heyyyy..nice fis.." crunch!

I don't think either of us thought about compensation. My buddy actually thought it was kinda funny. I think his exact words were... "classic".