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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Aurora on September 08, 2015, 10:23:48 AM

Title: Busted
Post by: Aurora on September 08, 2015, 10:23:48 AM
Was fishing in Maple ridge area last evening when a guy came around selling sockeye and pinks.  There were quite a few people fishing and one guy agreed to buy some so the sellers came around with a boat filled with fish.  When this happened a gentlemen who was also fishing there approached the boat and demanded they throw all the salmon they had overboard.  The guy was a police officer who just happened to be fishing.  Loved it.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: redder on September 08, 2015, 10:28:27 AM
Selling fish to fishermen, that's a lol in itself.


I hope it gets investigated more, once that cop is on duty.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Aurora on September 08, 2015, 10:46:45 AM
The officer did tell the fish mongers that he would be having a chat with their band leader.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Flytech on September 08, 2015, 10:48:08 AM
Oh man, I would love to see that.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: redder on September 08, 2015, 11:06:21 AM
The officer did tell the fish mongers that he would be having a chat with their band leader.

case closed.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Fish or cut bait. on September 08, 2015, 11:22:52 AM
If anyone offers you money for a fish and you agree you are a poacher!
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: ratfish on September 08, 2015, 11:26:40 AM
Lol that reminds me of a story when I was a teen. I was fishing for springs up north and noticed a CO fishing in plain clothes. I recognized him from when he checked my licence just the week before. Anyways I told my friend this who was fishing next to me. About fifteen minutes later a kid a few years younger than me asked my friend if he wanted to buy his spring he caught for ten bucks. He wanted money to buy a pack of smokes lol. My buddy who can be an funny dude said try that guy while pointing to the CO!! Needless to say the kid went up to the undercover CO and made the offer. The CO then went and opened his wallet and showed his badge. The kid lost his fishing rod, tackle and waders!! You never know who you are fishing next to.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Aurora on September 08, 2015, 01:06:30 PM
Needless to say the kid went up to the undercover CO and made the offer. The CO then went and opened his wallet and showed his badge. The kid lost his fishing rod, tackle and waders!! You never know who you are fishing next to.
Harsh lesson.  Bet he never forgot.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: tworivers on September 08, 2015, 03:50:05 PM
I assume that these sellers may have been First Nation people?
I also assume that they may be permitted to sell a portion of their allowable catch?

Is it wrong to assume they are doing nothing wrong?

I am surprised however that a police officer, who is acting alone and may not be trained in current fishery regulations, has the legal authority to enforce such an order upon these sellers.

What a waste!!
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: StillAqua on September 08, 2015, 04:08:10 PM
I am surprised however that a police officer, who is acting alone and may not be trained in current fishery regulations, has the legal authority to enforce such an order upon these sellers.
Any "Peace Officer" can enforce the Fisheries Act and any number of other laws. But he/she does have to certain that he is in fact interpreting correctly a law he may not be entirely familiar with.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Outdoorsman on September 08, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Good and bad. The unfortunate side of it, is that if all that fish was thrown overboard like they were told to do.....we all know that they're going to go straight back out and catch another boat load of more fish. Which sucks because it's now double the amount of fish pulled out of the river....wish it was more of a serious consequence...
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Fish or cut bait. on September 08, 2015, 05:55:39 PM
Sucks...
True!
Fertilizes the environment though.
Not really wasted just distributed I. A different manner.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: ynot on September 08, 2015, 06:48:22 PM
tworivers.
from todays news dfo.  he was selling sockeye and pinks.

First Nations food, social and ceremonial (FSC) fisheries in marine areas and
the Fraser River mainstem up to French Bar Creek remain closed to sockeye
retention at this time.
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Floater on September 08, 2015, 08:46:45 PM
Off duty cop telling first nations fishermen to throw away their catch. . . the whole story sounds a bit fishy to me  ::)
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: DC1980 on September 09, 2015, 10:41:43 AM
It is true....I was there.  The off duty officer told them to dump all their Sockeye and Pinks, which they did!
Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Mr. Iban on September 10, 2015, 01:47:04 AM
Just to clarify, under the Fisheries Act, RCMP officers are designated Fishery Officers. As such they are able to enforce the Fisheries Act.

The Act clearly states in Section 33. No person shall purchase, sell or possess any fish that has been caught in contravention of this Act or the regulations.

Seeing as DFO put out a notice on August 28 that all retention of sockeye was closed, including for the Natives, the two guys in the boat were clearly in violating the Fisheries Act.

As for throwing the fish into the water, that was the only way from preventing them to continue the offence. If they keep the fish, then they continue to break the law. Had DFO been there and intervened, they would have thrown the fish in the water after taking photographs etc.

Seems to me we can safely assume that this cop knew what he was doing....



Title: Re: Busted
Post by: Every Day on September 10, 2015, 06:39:45 AM
Just to clarify, under the Fisheries Act, RCMP officers are designated Fishery Officers. As such they are able to enforce the Fisheries Act.

The Act clearly states in Section 33. No person shall purchase, sell or possess any fish that has been caught in contravention of this Act or the regulations.

Seeing as DFO put out a notice on August 28 that all retention of sockeye was closed, including for the Natives, the two guys in the boat were clearly in violating the Fisheries Act.

As for throwing the fish into the water, that was the only way from preventing them to continue the offence. If they keep the fish, then they continue to break the law. Had DFO been there and intervened, they would have thrown the fish in the water after taking photographs etc.

Seems to me we can safely assume that this cop knew what he was doing....

When confiscating fish, officers most definitely do not throw them in the water. If the fish is fresh and appropriate to eat/sell, they donate the fish to food banks.

In this case, the officer made the right call to make them toss the fish, because making a confiscation off duty most likely isn'tpossible, and that was the only way of stopping the offence.