Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dude on July 05, 2014, 12:27:52 PM
-
quick question for folks, since there is plenty of northern pikeminnow & peamouth chubs in the fraser to catch, I was wondering if this would be good for crab bait and how effective it is if anyone has tried it out. I have always wondered as a Kid but I think I am going to give it a shot. Growing up we caught hundreds and hundreds of these in the fraser, our grandpa use to take us down to couple of spots and we would have a blast all day catching them.
Also curious to know if there is any daily limits for these to catch on the fraser as I can't seem to find it anywhere. :D
-
corrected
-
Whitefish are not northern pikeminnow, peamouth chub, etc, the daily quota of 15 whitefish in Region 2 freshwater does not apply to them. Make sure you know how to differentiate them prior to determining their daily quotas. As far as I am aware of, there are no daily quotas for Cyprinidae species (unless they are listed as protected such as Nooksack dace, Salish sucker, etc). Just to be sure, you may wish to phone the conservation office.
In the tidal portion of the Fraser River, because it is managed as saltwater, the daily quota of northern pikeminnow, peamouth chub, and any species which are not specifically listed in this table (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/species-especes/fintable-tableaupoisson-eng.html) is 20.
-
MMM seems they don't know the answer half the time because interesting I asked a CO and that was the answer he gave me ? I was sturgeon fishing and using peamouth chub as bait,
-
Thanks for the info Rod! and thanks for the tip AaronWilde
-
I have always interpreted the following to mean that only baitfish and fish offal could be used as crab bait, but I could be wrong. "The use of any finfish suitable for consumption as bait in trap fishing is prohibited however fish offal, herring, mackerel, Pacific sardine and anchovy may be used." (P.31, Tidal Waters Sport Fishing Guide)
-
I have always interpreted the following to mean that only baitfish and fish offal could be used as crab bait, but I could be wrong. "The use of any finfish suitable for consumption as bait in trap fishing is prohibited however fish offal, herring, mackerel, Pacific sardine and anchovy may be used." (P.31, Tidal Waters Sport Fishing Guide)
I interpreted it the exact same way... I usually use turkey necks or the head and tail of a finfish as I was told we could use those pieces by a guide.
-
Again, whitefish are not related to peamouth chub, northern pikeminnow, etc. Mountain whitefish, the most abundant species in the whitefish family in this province, are in fact targeted and retained for consumption as they taste good.
Northern pikeminnow, peamouth chub, are also fit for consumption and make great dishes for those who know how to prepare them. They are not more commonly eaten and regarded as trash, because most simply do not know better due to our high abundance of salmon and other more preferred species compared to other parts of the world.
The regulation is designed so that anglers are not killing fish (main concern is salmon) only for the purpose of crab bait.
-
Yea we get that Rod but to us they fall under the Shiite fish catagory!
-
Great attitude.
-
No attitude dude just the truth! Most people ,I'm sure not all will feel the same way ? I treat all fish the same way when caught from chub to salmon except of course the ones I use for bait :)
-
IMO virtually all fish are suitable for consumption (i.e., edible), and as fisherman we should do our best to maximize the utility of our catch to ensure fishing for future generations. Why use a fish for crab bait that many would consider great food when there is an abundance of wasted fish and meat offal that would serve just as well?
-
I have some scraps and trimmings (heads and backbones etc) in the freezer from salmon that I’ve filleted. So according to the regs, that would actually illegal to use in traps? Good to know as I was going to donate those scraps to someone who wants to try crabbing…
-
I have some scraps and trimmings (heads and backbones etc) in the freezer from salmon that I’ve filleted. So according to the regs, that would actually illegal to use in traps? Good to know as I was going to donate those scraps to someone who wants to try crabbing…
No sane conservation officer would give you any hassle for using your ends and trimmings. I keep a mine in a bag in the freezer to add to my crab mixture. Those, some chicken scraps, and a couple canned sardines and you are in great shape to catch crabs. Works every time!
-
I have some scraps and trimmings (heads and backbones etc) in the freezer from salmon that I’ve filleted. So according to the regs, that would actually illegal to use in traps? Good to know as I was going to donate those scraps to someone who wants to try crabbing…
"The use of any finfish suitable for consumption as bait in trap fishing is prohibited however fish offal, herring, mackerel, Pacific sardine and anchovy may be used." (P.31, Tidal Waters Sport Fishing Guide)
'Offal', or the parts of fish considered inedible, is acceptable. My local Superstore throws out their trout heads and tails so the seafood department passes them on to me for free, and combined with chicken scraps I do pretty well.
-
Any kind of bird neck is the best crab bait. Dirt cheap at any Chinese supermarket or butcher. The fresher and bloodier, the better.
-
I've never had any problems with chicken necks (and fish carcasses when I have my own). Sardines sound like a good idea, too.