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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: koifish on July 03, 2014, 09:22:04 AM

Title: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: koifish on July 03, 2014, 09:22:04 AM
Me and my dad had a discussion he said the serpentine River is tidal and I would need a tidal license
But I think it's not?  I tried googling it but couldn't find much thanks
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: Quin on July 03, 2014, 09:36:09 AM
Downstream of B.N. railway bridge is considered tidal for the purpose of regulations/licenses.
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: typhoon on July 03, 2014, 10:33:29 AM
Google is not your friend.
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/docs/1315/fishing_synopsis_2013-15_region2.pdf
Page 2:
TIDAL BOUNDARIES ON RIVERS
IN REGION 2
Note: Provincial freshwater regulations apply above these boundaries and Federal tidal regulations apply below these boundaries:
Brunette R.: Burlington Northern Railway Bridge
Campbell R.: Burlington Northern Railway Bridge
Capilano R.: CN Railway Bridge
Coquitlam R.: Mary Hill Bypass Bridge
Fraser R.: CPR Bridge at Mission
Kanaka Cr.: CPR Bridge
Nathan Cr.: CN Railway Bridge
Nicomekl R.: Burlington Northern Railway Bridge
Pitt R.: CPR Bridge
Serpentine R.: Burlington Northern Railway Bridge
Seymour R.: CN Railway Bridge
Squamish R.: a line running true west from the tip of the Squamish Dyke (“Windsurfer Spit”)
Stave R.: CPR Bridge
West Cr.: CN Railway Bridge
Whonnock Cr.: CP rail line
York Cr.: CP rail line
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: koifish on July 03, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
So now I need to get a map and find where I'm fishing and see
So is it tidal above Burlington northern bridge or below?
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: Quin on July 03, 2014, 04:01:47 PM
Now I'm starting to think your joking,...please be joking.
If not, ..well.. here goes, it's tidal below.
 A map would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: koifish on July 03, 2014, 04:10:58 PM
Lol haha I erased my question since I got the answer thanks anyways I just need to find out if it's under or above
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: big_fish on July 03, 2014, 04:23:11 PM
The river is closed year round for anyone who cannot read the regulations.
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: KingOfEastVan on July 03, 2014, 04:52:10 PM
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html

Check your facts says here it opens Aug. 1st for chinooks plus coho and chum in October. That being said, it is a fragile urban system with a crappy run, IMHO real sportsmen don't fish there.
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: Rodney on July 03, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html

Check your facts says here it opens Aug. 1st for chinooks plus coho and chum in October.

What you're referring to is the retention quotas for salmon. What others are talking about is the general opening and closing periods for fishing, which are listed in the provincial regulations.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/docs/1315/fishing_synopsis_2013-15_region2.pdf
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: koifish on July 03, 2014, 06:58:17 PM
who ever said im fihsing for salmon? there are other species has well like trout

big fish the river isnt close i even just called berrys bait and confirmed
i dont even keep any of my catch this is whats closed year around SERPENTINE RIVER 2-4 Closed all year above 168th St. at Bothwell Park ∑
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: Steely on July 03, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
This river is a touchy subject therefore posting about it at all on a public forum will draw out the people who are also touchy on this subject. All that's in there is steelhead smolts, coho fry and small cutty's right now so there are quite a few people who wouldn't like the fact that you are possibly fishing for them. People usually just assume you wanna go for salmon. So if you post about streams such as these expect some unhappy people with some negative answers. So don't get too defensive. Just realize if you post about streams such as this there will be reprocusions unfortunately. Nature of the beast
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: redtide on July 05, 2014, 09:18:04 PM
Steely i understand your fear that a thousand fisherman will descend upon the serpentine after it hits fwr. The truth is it is a very crappy river to fish in even for a seasoned angler. water clarity is always an issue and debris coming downstream. However it is open to fishing ( when open ) to whoever has a fishing license which includes you as well. It is also a hatchery operated river with retention limits. Go ahead and try your luck koi......get a copy of the regs and happy fishing! Btw the boundary is the train bridge not the highway bridge like some people think.
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: RalphH on July 06, 2014, 10:31:07 AM
It's difficult if not all but impossible to fish below the train bridge so effectively the entire river is non-tidal as far as the regs are concerned so a non-tidal Provincial license is what is required. The Serp is enhanced, there is a community hatchery in the headwaters and there are good numbers of salmon that return to the hatchery in season. Access is a problem as is water quality. I don't know how the trout fare there and haven't fished the river in 30 to 40 years. Used to be a crackerjack cutthroat stream - fall, winter and early spring with the odd steelhead.
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: Damien on July 07, 2014, 11:22:05 AM
That bank of that river is gunky and hard to walk, full of farm run off and generally a mess with goose and dog crap everywhere.

Fraser and tributaries have better access and way more fish.
Title: Re: Is serpentine River tidal
Post by: Sandman on July 07, 2014, 07:37:54 PM
I do believe Big Fish was saying that the river is closed to anyone who cannot read the regulations for themselves (he was being snarky about the silly questions - tidal above the bridge?).