Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: losos on June 19, 2014, 02:43:54 PM
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I'm looking for opinion about these products :
Gloomis SAR1363C GL 2 rod
Lamiglas X 113 M-CP rod
Redwing Tackle Blackbird Center Pin Float Reel
Raven Matrix Special Edition Center Pin Reel
Thanks
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I'm looking for opinion about these products :
Gloomis SAR1363C GL 2 rod
Lamiglas X 113 M-CP rod
Redwing Tackle Blackbird Center Pin Float Reel
Raven Matrix Special Edition Center Pin Reel
Thanks
If you like fast action rods, they both are good.
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How about balance. I've found that some rods are relatively tip heavy and feel like a day of fishing could become strenuous.
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How about balance. I've found that some rods are relatively tip heavy and feel like a day of fishing could become strenuous.
Best is to try it out in the tackle store before purchase.
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Both rods you have picked are good rods, strong and well built. However, both are fairly stiff rods. As for your reels, they are of the cheaper variety. I personally do not like the matrix's and the other I have never seen before. Maybe spend a little less on the rod and a little more on the reel? I went that route with my first pin setup and would recommend that route but that may just be me.
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I'm looking for opinion about these products :
Redwing Tackle Blackbird Center Pin Float Reel
Thanks
Bad review from
http://www.fishusa.com/Product/Redwing-Tackle-Blackbird-Center-Pin-Float-Reel
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Both rods you have picked are good rods, strong and well built. However, both are fairly stiff rods. As for your reels, they are of the cheaper variety. I personally do not like the matrix's and the other I have never seen before. Maybe spend a little less on the rod and a little more on the reel? I went that route with my first pin setup and would recommend that route but that may just be me.
So what is the difference between $200 and $700 in real terms. As far as I read various discussions and reviews the important features are:
1. Light weight of the reel and most important spool since it provides easy start up.
2. True spinning (is it correct term?)
3. Decent finish
4. Good clicker spring tension
If my assumptions are correct then any major reel maker should fit the task or there is way more to it.
As for the rods I was looking for something that could be used for spring and steelhead fishing ,but perhaps the difference between rod requirements for both species are to far apart ,I don't know it yet.
Gloomis is rated 8-17 lb
Lamiglas 8-15 lb
Don't know any other rod that would fit this line requirement , be light enough and have medium action.
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Bad review from
http://www.fishusa.com/Product/Redwing-Tackle-Blackbird-Center-Pin-Float-Reel
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Did you read it ?
Lack of instruction ? For what ? It isn't a baitcaster with a million parts.
Tension screw not the easiest to adjust? You do it once ,don't you.
I read it before as it was the only review I could find online that's why came here in hope someone heard /experienced more of it.
Anyway thank you for the contribution.
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Bad review from
http://www.fishusa.com/Product/Redwing-Tackle-Blackbird-Center-Pin-Float-Reel
Did you read it ?
Lack of instruction ? For what ? It isn't a baitcaster with a million parts.
Tension screw not the easiest to adjust? You do it once ,don't you.
I read it before as it was the only review I could find online that's why came here in hope someone heard /experienced more of it.
Anyway thank you for the contribution.
Personally , i never buy a centerpin reel with drag system . So if you like it so much ,just go and buy it.....Happy shopping ;)
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I have the Loomis rod. Good for springs and chum but a bit too heavy for coho and just a bit too heavy for steelhead.
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Go to the tackle shop, put one of those reels in your hand, spin it, play with it. Then pick up something like an islander and play with it. Then you will start to see what I mean. My advice is if you buy something of good quality then it will last you a long time and it's a one time buy instead of having to purchase another in the future. There are decent CP rods out there for a little less that work just as well.
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As I stated before I have a very limited knowledge of center pins so I'd appreciate some pointers as what to look in a center pin.
Don't care much about brand name, but a good quality, not necessarily Rolls Royce . There is limitation how much I'm willing to spend on the whole set-up. Reels for $500 are out of my range.
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okuma and campbell are others to look at mid price point ! or look for a used milner or islander !
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Sage 3113 LB.....#3 Wt and 11'3" in length, with Islander Steelheader Center Pin Reel
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Sage 3113 LB.....#3 Wt and 11'3" in length, with Islander Steelheader Center Pin Reel
What is the meaning of #3 wt ?
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he means 3 power id guess , 3wt would be a fly rod line rating
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As I stated before I have a very limited knowledge of center pins so I'd appreciate some pointers as what to look in a center pin.
Don't care much about brand name, but a good quality, not necessarily Rolls Royce . There is limitation how much I'm willing to spend on the whole set-up. Reels for $500 are out of my range.
Just walk in army and navy or any tackle store. Ask for cheap and good quality items. They will be more than happy to guide you through.
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For a first outfit I would recomend sticking with a 10'6" rod,11'3" is a lot of rod to handle/learn on.It also makes the rod more tip heavy.This can be countered by a heavier reel to balance the rig,but in turn makes the whole rig heavier. As mentioned the Loomis and the Lami are a bit on the stiff side. Most prefer a softer rod,I like something in between .Look at a Fenwick or Trophy xl.Look for a 10#-20# line rating in a m-mh power with a moderate-moderate fast action.As for a reel, light weight is not the be-all end-all.It may help start up but the inertia of a heavier spool will keep it spinning.Most reels have too much porting for my likes.I prefer a more solid face/backplate to keep debris/sand/dirt out.Left hand /right hand(clicker strength/lever/button/position )is another consideration.Some reels can be had either way,some the clicker favors one or the other and some are pretty even..This is where the touchy/feely hands on experience comes into play to decide what you like/feels right before you buy new or used.I too would recomend forgetting about the blackbird,not a true pin and would be a hard sell to get rid of if you did not like it.In the whole bushing/bearing debate I would say bearing since for the most part they are user servicable in regards to replacement.I would say an islander(used),campbell,raven,okuma,amundson,trophy winter-run would meet the needs of budget and quality.
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So I decided to go with either 2106 or 3116 Trophy Titan just need to establish line rating for both since there is only power reference on the rod. No action and no line rating. Does anyone have idea about it?
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...just a heads up that these rods have a down-locking reel seat(fingers on reel seat threads) instead of an uplocking one (fingers on cork)that is prefered my most pin-heads....still a usable rod,just personal preference...
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I'm well aware of that however from many rods that I tried Titan seems the best in this price range. Unfortunately rods with prefered reel mounting point , specs and price don't exist so I have to settle for the best compromise.
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....good to know (and the fish don't care).....rod action can be somewhat determined by shaking/flexing rods of known action and compared...slow action bends tip to cork/med action bends more from the middle/fast action 2/3 up...from what I've seen 2 power rods generaly have a lower line rating in the 6-10/8-12 range while a three power could be 8-15(17)/10-20.....this is only an educated guess as power ratings are subjective with no standard between companies...
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Thanks Spoonman . I was hoping for 8-15/17 lb line rating rod. Visited most major and some smaller fishing stores in lower mainland ,but nobody could give me exact answer.
My other question would be what is your opinion about J W Young reels . I must admit their design caught my eye as they are
less common .
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Have you recommended looking for a used reel?? You can pick up a old avon or steelheader for reasonably cheap, which are both nicer then reels posted above. I had a lami 3113 but wouldn't buy one again. I broke it and sent it away for warranty and it took over 6 months too get back. I also have a jw young purist and love it but wouldn't ever buy one brand new for $400. Can usually pick them up used for under $200
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Of course i'm looking for used reel or rod, but it is hard to find one. I'm checking on daily basis Craig's list ,Amazon, Ebay or here. Usually or rather unusually careful with my rods not to break them ,but I understand how painful bad customer service can be.