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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: losos on April 26, 2014, 08:09:35 PM

Title: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: losos on April 26, 2014, 08:09:35 PM
Hi guys.
A friend of mine wants to start fishing for salmon and he doesn't want to invest too much shekels initially . My advice was 11' Fenwick HMX ,but I've learned since Fenwick is owned or made by chinese. Since I haven't bought  new rod for a long time I don't have knowledge of recent products. Could anyone help ?
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Rieber on April 26, 2014, 08:21:32 PM
Why would you think there is anything wrong with rods made in China? New rods have warranties.

I've never looked at or worries about where a rod has been made - couldn't care less. I only buy rods based on need/application, personal feel for the rod and with most consideration to cost.

Buy it if it feels right for the targetted fish and water system - then use it. If you don't like it sell it and get something else. No need to over think this. If the Fenwick seems right - get it.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Rodney on April 26, 2014, 08:23:54 PM
Shimano Clarus CSC96M2B
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 26, 2014, 08:47:08 PM
Shimano Clarus CSC96M2B

Nice rod.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Golfer on April 26, 2014, 08:53:30 PM
A couple days ago i picked up a 10`6" 10-20lb Fenwick HMX from highwater.  I have zero complaints.  It is nice and light and was perfect for the couple early bluebacks I have caught recently.  I have mine paired with a c3 5500 and 12lb UG.  Great for spoon tossing. 
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Daguru on April 26, 2014, 09:01:27 PM
The clairus is an awsome rod, but if you want a to spend less the shimano convergence is pretty good too and also come with shimano a lifetime waranty.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Wool on April 26, 2014, 09:05:36 PM
  I have beat up a lot a fish with my Fenwick and use a Convergence as a back up. Both with 6500 C4. Great rods.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: losos on April 26, 2014, 09:25:26 PM
Shimano Clarus CSC96M2B
Thanks, however as I myself am using 10.6' Fenwick HMX I think 11' or 11.6 ' would be better for a long distance casting.
Owning myself 9' Clarus it is a very good rod imo for the price just a tad short plus 10.6' is about $60 more expensive than 11' Fenwick.
I'll will even lend guy my baitcaster until he decides whether to invest more money in fishing.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: losos on April 26, 2014, 09:39:24 PM
Why would you think there is anything wrong with rods made in China? New rods have warranties.

I've never looked at or worries about where a rod has been made - couldn't care less. I only buy rods based on need/application, personal feel for the rod and with most consideration to cost.

Buy it if it feels right for the targetted fish and water system - then use it. If you don't like it sell it and get something else. No need to over think this. If the Fenwick seems right - get it.
It is just that many complained about China made  Abu being not up to par with Swedish sibling. There is general consensus that Chinese products are of lower quality hence they can keep lower prices. As for warranties Chrysler at one point had 120k 7  year warranty and I wouldn't touch it with 20 foot pole since it is up to the warrantor how he is going to execute claim and we all know how it works..
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Archer on April 26, 2014, 09:42:50 PM
I really like my Fenwick Canadian Methods 10'.6 rod paired up with an Abu Garcia C3 6500.  The combo is $209 at Army & Navy in Langley.  It handles salmon well, slayed many Chums last fall on the Stave.  As usual the baitcaster takes practice, but I got the hang of it fine, and there was no backlash I couldn't pull out in under a few min.  Keep the reel oiled, and it will be a lifer!
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Archer on April 26, 2014, 09:46:18 PM
My combo is less then 1 year old, well used, and the reel is made in Sweden.  The Fenwick rod, I am not sure, don't care cause its tried and true, and had no cheap feel to it at all :P

Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: losos on April 26, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
I really like my Fenwick Canadian Methods 10'.6 rod paired up with an Abu Garcia C3 6500.  The combo is $209 at Army & Navy in Langley.  It handles salmon well, slayed many Chums last fall on the Stave.  As usual the baitcaster takes practice, but I got the hang of it fine, and there was no backlash I couldn't pull out in under a few min.  Keep the reel oiled, and it will be a lifer!
Like I wrote above I have a couple of baitcasters serviced by myself of which one I'll lend to this guy (it'll be C4 6500 with some upgrades) however since I was off fishing gear market for many years I'd like to get advise on 11-11.6' rods . Anyway thanks for the  response.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: MetalAndFeathers on April 27, 2014, 07:29:08 AM
I really like my Fenwick Canadian Methods 10'.6 rod paired up with an Abu Garcia C3 6500.  The combo is $209 at Army & Navy in Langley.  It handles salmon well, slayed many Chums last fall on the Stave.  As usual the baitcaster takes practice, but I got the hang of it fine, and there was no backlash I couldn't pull out in under a few min.  Keep the reel oiled, and it will be a lifer!
I like that rod because its realy flexible i had 4lb bull trout fight like a coho on that rod.

Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: sbc hris on April 28, 2014, 11:47:22 AM
I also have a Fenwick Canadian methods and like it just fine. I've caught many fish over the last 5-6 years with it, and feels a lot better than the convergence it replaced.

As far as Chinese made rods go, I'm pretty sure most of them out there under $300 are made in China, so unless he wants to pay up for a Sage or Loomis, he's probably getting an overseas rod.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: firstlight on April 28, 2014, 09:26:06 PM
 I also like the Trophy line of rods.
Good bang for the buck and probably made offshore no doubt.
Not sure about warranty but im sure as good as the other lower end rods mentioned.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: G-Ratt on April 29, 2014, 01:47:02 PM
A couple days ago i picked up a 10`6" 10-20lb Fenwick HMX from highwater.  I have zero complaints.  It is nice and light and was perfect for the couple early bluebacks I have caught recently.  I have mine paired with a c3 5500 and 12lb UG.  Great for spoon tossing.

A 10-20lb HMX is kinda heavy for bluebacks... And if you're talking about the Cap, they're most definitely not here yet.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Golfer on April 29, 2014, 03:39:05 PM
A 10-20lb HMX is kinda heavy for bluebacks... And if you're talking about the Cap, they're most definitely not here yet.

It is a bit heavy, but I was tossing 3/4oz Kitimats, and the water was at 5-6, so I needed something bigger to get down lower. But I also use a 8`6" 6-10lb spinning rod in lower water for spoons and spinners.  There are definitely a few in the system, not in huge numbers, but enough for me to make the 5 minute ride from my house.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: clarki on April 29, 2014, 03:52:17 PM
A 10-20lb HMX is kinda heavy for bluebacks... And if you're talking about the Cap, they're most definitely not here yet.

I love KIAs (Know It Alls)...

Golfer: I have caught bluebacks recently
KIA: They are most definitely not here yet
Golfer: There are definitely a few in the system...
And Golfer wins the award for a most courteous and respectful response. :)   
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: G-Ratt on April 29, 2014, 08:40:46 PM
I love KIAs (Know It Alls)...

Golfer: I have caught bluebacks recently
KIA: They are most definitely not here yet
Golfer: There are definitely a few in the system...
And Golfer wins the award for a most courteous and respectful response. :)


Yeah, I'm a know it all, because thinking using a rod rated to 20 lbs for a 2-6 lb fish is silly is super secret info that only I possess.

As for the bluebacks, catching 2 in one outing this early in the season would be an extreme rarity. Especially tossing Kitimats of that size on this system.

And to quote many a KIA before me, PICS or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Golfer on April 29, 2014, 09:17:21 PM

Yeah, I'm a know it all, because thinking using a rod rated to 20 lbs for a 2-6 lb fish is silly is super secret info that only I possess.

As for the bluebacks, catching 2 in one outing this early in the season would be an extreme rarity. Especially tossing Kitimats of that size on this system.

And to quote many a KIA before me, PICS or it didn't happen.

I never said they were caught in one outing.  They were caught over the period of 3 outings, of about 3 hours each.  I bought the HMX as a starter baitcaster rod that I can use throughout the coho and chum season. And the kitimat spoons are 2.375 inches long, which is by no means too big in high water.  No doubt the rod is a bit heavy for these fish, but I need it for when I go to the Skeena and Kitimat in september for the larger coho's.  I was fishing alone and released them so no pictures. Believe me or don't believe me, I don't care, I don't fish to please others.  Go to Highwater or another tackle shop, if you want assurance that they are in, or better yet try fishing there for yourself.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: NexusGoo on April 30, 2014, 10:13:44 AM
There are definitely a few cohos in the river system at this time, they may not be in the big numbers yet but there a coming.

G-ratt I've been fortunate enough to get multi cap coho days in early April as well. They just need to be there when you're there.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Daguru on April 30, 2014, 11:10:45 AM
Lol blue backs are definitely in the system. Caught one yesterday and the day before that
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Adamski76 on May 02, 2014, 06:53:27 AM
I also like the Trophy line of rods.
Good bang for the buck and probably made offshore no doubt.
Not sure about warranty but im sure as good as the other lower end rods mentioned.
I belive that Trophy rods are made locally in Pitt Meadows rececently looked at buying a Trophy Titan grate looking rod for your $ designed by Brian Babcock ...great warranty. Went instead with Loomis GL3 awesome rod.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Quinsam_Lose_Some on May 02, 2014, 07:47:13 PM
G-Ratt's first post Oct.27/13

Wouldn't it be easier to just quickly answer his question rather than getting all high and mighty and attacking him?

Some people (especially newer anglers) find the regulations confusing, and last time I checked this is a fishing forum where questions are encouraged.

LOL...my how we've changed! 6 months and 14 posts later and we're basically calling a guy a liar and dictating what size rod he should use!
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: losos on May 02, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
I belive that Trophy rods are made locally in Pitt Meadows rececently looked at buying a Trophy Titan grate looking rod for your $ designed by Brian Babcock ...great warranty. Went instead with Loomis GL3 awesome rod.
What length is that Trophy ?
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Adamski76 on May 02, 2014, 10:14:08 PM
10'6" based on Sage 2106
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: sbc hris on May 06, 2014, 10:29:27 AM
As far as I know Trophy rods are made overseas and distributed locally by Redl sports. Not bad rods though!
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: losos on May 06, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
10'6" based on Sage 2106
Too bad he's still looking for 11-11.6' or perhaps longer.
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Daguru on May 06, 2014, 09:31:08 PM
11'6 technium. Good rod but alittle heavy unless targeting springs and chums. Also the fenwick elite tech 12' is pretty good to. I borrowed it for an outing and loved it
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: losos on May 06, 2014, 10:22:18 PM
11'6 technium. Good rod but alittle heavy unless targeting springs and chums. Also the fenwick elite tech 12' is pretty good to. I borrowed it for an outing and loved it
Were can you get 12' fenwick elite tech?
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: Daguru on May 07, 2014, 08:05:45 AM
Berrys bait
Title: Re: Salmon baitcasting rod question.
Post by: G-Ratt on May 07, 2014, 03:01:27 PM
Was just trying to keep some congestion off of my favourite local river ;)