Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: dobrolub on December 14, 2013, 11:14:49 PM
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Hi All,
I am looking into buying a casting rod and considering 12 or 14 feet rods. Would you suggest 14' is a big overkill?
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101/2'
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For drift fishing, I use a 10'6" rod. Don't think you would need a 12 or 14 foot rod.
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Why you want to use 14 ft rod ? 10 1/2 ft is good enough.
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I have a 10"6" and a lighter 9'6" and find that I use the shorter rod almost all the time when I float fish now.
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I have a 13FT Spey rod, I take my sea-run center-pin, and also my spey reel, so I can enjoy both if I please. casting the 13ft rod takes a bit of getting used to, but once there a longer rod( on a bigger system) can be beneficial ...cheers
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I have rods in all different lengths and personally my favorite rod for the vedder is a 13' rainshadow.i fell in love with longer rods when i had my first 12'4120 sage trigger rod made for the T.loved it so much i was using it on the vedder almost always. And so were my buddys i fished with..that rod was a bit heavy for the vedder but such a pleasure to use.i dont think i wld use anything over 13' on the vedder though.as the can be a bit of a pain sometimes.
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10-11' is the perfect baitcasting rod size for the Vedder.
12'+ is more suited to big rivers such as the Fraser, Thompson or Skeena.
Like a few members already suggested, go with the standard 10'6" to 11' medium action rod. It will cover all your baitcasting needs.
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i use 10'6 i like it, not too long not too short
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Agree that 10"6 is a pretty solid length for the Vedder. I used to alway use my 11"6 but found it a bit heavy/tiring to fish all day. The 10"6 is a bit lighter and balances better on most of my reels.
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Magz
I had a Rainshadow 13 foot built, at Valley Custom rods; Mark did a really nice job on it. The Rod is a power 2, light action. Is yours light or medium action?
I have several rods as well. I use two rod on the boat on the Fraser, you would have a hard time breaking them if you tried. I have played 28 pound springs, with them, and didn’t care if I broke, one. The rod are Fenwick HMX 10.5 foot.
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Its a new blank 1352 4 Piece. Yes its a light rod but has amazing backbone. I use it on my center pin though as i like a more noodlier rod for pinning than i do for baitcasting.
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Oops imeant its a xst 1563 4 piece.and mark did build it also.
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What action do you guys like your rod? Would medium heavy work okay for rivers like the vedder?
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I'm looking into something in the 12-13 ft range but it seems like these are all custom. How does one go purchasing these and if so what is the typical cost for a quality but not necessarily the crown jewel rod?
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[/quote]yes i think med /heavy or med is perfect all around power for a vedder rod.if u ever fish for white springs in the fall u definatetly want med /heavy as they are powerfull big fish.but for coho and steelhead i wld say medium power is nice as there usually a little easier on the hands/shoulders on a long fishing day.
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G-Loomis Center Pin Rod STR 1562 GLX CP 13 Moderate Med-Light Price 595.00
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The 13 foot Rainshadow, is a lite rod to carry around all day.
I was talking to a fellow that has a Sage 3113 L, and he said because of the lite action sometimes hard for a hook set, and misses the odd fish, he thinks a medium action would be better.
I have a Sage 3113 M , the Rainshadow is a lighter rod to carry around all day.
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I measured several Rainshadow blanks using the Common Cents System.
Casting: XST1262F 10'6" ERN: 12.5, AA: 77, making it powerful enough for pretty much any salmon. Fast action great for casting spoons as well.
Centerpin: XST1383F 11'3" ERN: 10.0, AA: 66 - great for steelhead and coho. Too light in my opinion for Chinook and large Chum in moving water.
Mostly it shows that you can't rely on the manufacturer's line, lure, or action rating to determine power or action.
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Mostly it shows that you can't rely on the manufacturer's line, lure, or action rating to determine power or action.
The problem with that is there is no standard in the industry... So you'll get consistency within a manufacturer (ie a medium sage is heavier than a light sage) but once you go across manufacturers your various ratings are basically incomparable.
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The 13 foot Rainshadow, is a lite rod to carry around all day.
I was talking to a fellow that has a Sage 3113 L, and he said because of the lite action sometimes hard for a hook set, and misses the odd fish, he thinks a medium action would be better.
I have a Sage 3113 M , the Rainshadow is a lighter rod to carry around all day.
well i put that hook set to the test this coho season as i also use a 3113m .my rainshadow xst 1563-4 is a 6- 12lb line rating and i found for a lighter rod it had a great hook set.yes i lost a few coho on it but landed more than i lost.then for a test i used my sage 3113m for a couple days to see if i could land a few more but my numbers were very close.the sage is a much heavier rod and i cant say that my hook set was any better.!!!!
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Magz
My Rainshadow is a two piece, and I agree with you.
A 13 foot rod I use in cetin arrears on the river. I would be fun to build a 10 Rainshadow. One can all ways use another fishing rod!
;D
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(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r79/Spoonman_05/PC130359.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/Spoonman_05/media/PC130359.jpg.html)..(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r79/Spoonman_05/P3230009_zpsf65c1018.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/Spoonman_05/media/P3230009_zpsf65c1018.jpg.html)....this one gets used mainly for steel.It's not the meatstick you would think by the rating(on Batson's site actually rated at5/8-1-1/2)....It is a bit heavy in actual weight but has a sensitive tip and a nice med action in the top half with lots of backbone in the bottom for hooksets/turning fish..
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Got 11'6" from berry's bait for 99$. May not be a perfect rod but good enough for a first bait casting rod. And an Abu 6500C3. Looking forward to taking this setup to the river. 14' definitely looked like an overkill. Thanks to all who replied!
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Sounds like a perfect vedder setup.a bit longer than 10'6" to keep ur drift clean on long casts!!!i only use longer rods like the one 13' i have on my centerpin.i wouldnt use a 13' on a baitcaster on the vedder.