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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 03:10:02 PM

Title: stanley park
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
Anyone had fished there before? Are we allow to fish there? since the fraser river doesnt have much action, thinking of going there giving a try.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Humpy on December 11, 2013, 03:34:47 PM
I haven't fished there myself but I did see some people fishing there this summer, they were catching some too.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Fish Assassin on December 11, 2013, 06:06:25 PM
Yes, you can fish off the seawall. I often see people catching flounders and perch. I've caught ling cod and rock cods off the kelp beds.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: milo on December 11, 2013, 06:54:31 PM
Nice big juicy carp in the Lost Lagoon, too.

I remember a very old Russian gentleman getting them there in the late evenings years ago, when I was a newcomer to Canada and renting a little place in the West End.
This guy would arrive on his bike with the last light of the day, get into some bushes and toss a home-made boilie out there with a hand line. It usually took him under 5 minutes to get a fish. He'd land a fish, dispatch it discretely, put it in a bag and off on his bike he went. Curious folk.

Don't get any silly ideas, though. It's strictly forbidden to fish the Lost Lagoon.

Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 07:11:13 PM
mm.. will you guys plan to fish there, since the river is dead and is close to lowermainland , And going to vedder is too far for me.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: dcajaxs on December 12, 2013, 06:03:15 AM
I bet the lack of carp in lost lagoon is part of the reason it has slowly been grown in by grasses.  we see the same issues in many places in the lower mainland where there were once carp the ditches stayed relatively open.  Now that they have been fished out the ditches clog up with grass.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: jacklam999 on December 12, 2013, 01:03:32 PM
I live downtown in Vancouver in a youth community living environment and should probably start trying places like Stanley park and Ambleside, since they are so close to me, and accessible via transit. I have no vehicle so. There has to be some decent fishing at these places. I bet its freezing out there on the west side of Stanley park though. I wonder if dew worms would work, I have a bunch of them lol

i think dew worm and live ghost shrimp will be a good bait, since i was in asia, we do a lot of fishing, and worms and shrimp are like the most productive bait.

Im thinking is there any locol stream/ creek that is in vancouver bc, went to the new westminster creek, but nothing much happen there. Thinking of spanish bank creek, which is near UBC.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: zap brannigan on December 12, 2013, 01:55:45 PM
If its not in the fishing synopsis your not allowed to fish it. 
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: fisherforever on December 12, 2013, 02:15:13 PM
If its not in the fishing synopsis your not allowed to fish it.
Page 1 of the Freshwater regs - "IF YOUR LAKE OR STREAM DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE WATER-SPECIFIC TABLES, NO SPECIAL REGULATIONS ARE IN EFFECT. THEREFORE, YOU MUST ONLY FOLLOW: The Provincial Regulations AND • The Regional Regulations for the Region".
According to the online regs you can fish there but I would first check with http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/contact/ by phone to make sure then check http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html tom see if there is any info here and by phone - Fisheries and Oceans Canada, Suite 200 - 401 Burrard Street, Vancouver, British Columbia V6C 3S4, Telephone: 604-666-0384, Fax: 604-666-1847, also check with the city of Vancouver to see if they have any restrictions.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Shawn6o4 on December 12, 2013, 03:23:57 PM
If its not in the fishing synopsis your not allowed to fish it.

Stop giving out false info, if you don't know don't say it.
probly the third post from you giving out false regulations.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Old Blue on December 12, 2013, 04:51:46 PM
You can't fish from the sea wall.  Clearly out of bounds in the regs
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Suther on December 12, 2013, 05:03:46 PM
Page 1 of the Freshwater regs - "IF YOUR LAKE OR STREAM DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE WATER-SPECIFIC TABLES, NO SPECIAL REGULATIONS ARE IN EFFECT. THEREFORE, YOU MUST ONLY FOLLOW: The Provincial Regulations AND • The Regional Regulations for the Region".
According to the online regs you can fish there but I would first check with http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/contact/ by phone to make sure then check http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html tom see if there is any info here and by phone - Fisheries and Oceans Canada, Suite 200 - 401 Burrard Street, Vancouver, British Columbia V6C 3S4, Telephone: 604-666-0384, Fax: 604-666-1847, also check with the city of Vancouver to see if they have any restrictions.

The Sea wall isn't fresh water. Its even got SEA in the name.

Fishing off the sea wall would require looking at the SALT water regs.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: fisherforever on December 12, 2013, 05:45:19 PM
Suther, maybe you should read all the posts before you open your yap. ::) The OP also asked about fishing in other areas ie "Im thinking is there any locol stream/ creek that is in vancouver bc", this would be covered by the Freshwater regs, hence the link. OP originally asked about Stanley Park so I also included the DFO link, that's for saltwater okay. ::)  I also recommended phoning both to make sure as well as the city to see if there were any special restrictions.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: zap brannigan on December 12, 2013, 06:07:08 PM
Stop giving out false info, if you don't know don't say it.
probly the third post from you giving out false regulations.

That's what I was told by a CO in lilloette last spring when I asked about it.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Johnny Canuck on December 12, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
That's what I was told by a CO in lilloette last spring when I asked about it.

::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Suther on December 12, 2013, 06:11:10 PM
Suther, maybe you should read all the posts before you open your yap. ::) The OP also asked about fishing in other areas ie "Im thinking is there any locol stream/ creek that is in vancouver bc", this would be covered by the Freshwater regs, hence the link. OP originally asked about Stanley Park so I also included the DFO link, that's for saltwater okay. ::)  I also recommended phoning both to make sure as well as the city to see if there were any special restrictions.

You specifically said "According to the online regs you can fish there" Which means you are refering to a specific location, not giving general info.

Also, the link you provided for the DFO details what salmon you can retain in FRESH WATER systems.

Finally, the city doesn't have jurisdiction over fishing regulations, thats provincial jurisdiction.

So how about YOU dont open YOUR yap when YOU dont know what YOU are talking about.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: fisherforever on December 12, 2013, 06:39:04 PM
MY bad, I forgot to include the link for the saltwater regs http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/map-carte-eng.asp  :P Once again the OP posted "Im thinking is there any locol stream/ creek that is in vancouver bc", this would be covered by the Freshwater regs, hence the link". The salmon in freshwater link was included because he did not state what fish he was after, if it was salmon he would need to know the regs for the stream/creek he chose to fish.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: big_fish on December 12, 2013, 08:49:02 PM
That's what I was told by a CO in lilloette last spring when I asked about it.

For someone who's so vocal about playing by the rules on all these forums, you sure need to take your own advice and read the regulations for once. If you don't know it, don't say it. Quit telling people where they can't fish when in fact they can. Don't rely on third hand information.

MY bad, I forgot to include the link for the saltwater regs http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/map-carte-eng.asp  :P Once again the OP posted "Im thinking is there any locol stream/ creek that is in vancouver bc", this would be covered by the Freshwater regs, hence the link". The salmon in freshwater link was included because he did not state what fish he was after, if it was salmon he would need to know the regs for the stream/creek he chose to fish.

Don't sweat it. Suther is one of those who sit in front of the screen all day and need to reply to every single thread to show what a smart guy he is. Just take a look through this discussion forum and you'll know what I mean.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: leapin' tyee on December 13, 2013, 08:20:36 AM


Don't sweat it. Suther is one of those who sit in front of the screen all day and need to reply to every single thread to show what a smart guy he is. Just take a look through this discussion forum and you'll know what I mean.

Good observation. ;D ;D
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Suther on December 13, 2013, 11:30:15 AM

Don't sweat it. Suther is one of those who sit in front of the screen all day and need to reply to every single thread to show what a smart guy he is. Just take a look through this discussion forum and you'll know what I mean.

Yupp. Thats me.

Rather be doing that then providing useless info like "call the city and ask about fishing regs"

Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: milo on December 13, 2013, 12:32:05 PM
I bet the lack of carp in lost lagoon is part of the reason it has slowly been grown in by grasses.

Lack of carp? Where did you get that?
I took a walk there a few weeks ago and I could see some in the shallows at the south end. There may not be as many as before the 1994 saltwater incident, but there is still a decent size population living there.

Again, NO FISHING there.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Knnn on December 13, 2013, 03:27:14 PM
Page 1 of the Freshwater regs - "IF YOUR LAKE OR STREAM DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE WATER-SPECIFIC TABLES, NO SPECIAL REGULATIONS ARE IN EFFECT. THEREFORE, YOU MUST ONLY FOLLOW: The Provincial Regulations AND • The Regional Regulations for the Region".
According to the online regs you can fish there but I would first check with http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/contact/ by phone to make sure then check http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html tom see if there is any info here and by phone - Fisheries and Oceans Canada, Suite 200 - 401 Burrard Street, Vancouver, British Columbia V6C 3S4, Telephone: 604-666-0384, Fax: 604-666-1847, also check with the city of Vancouver to see if they have any restrictions.

OK so now I am confused.  Yes or no to fishing in Lost Lagoon.  Milo, is your post about no fishing based on Freshwater Regs or Van City or ......

Sorry if I am being dim witted.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Long_Cast on December 13, 2013, 10:54:58 PM
Many years ago, I saw big carps jumping for flies within metres from the shoreline at Lost Lagoon in the summer. I think I saw like three to four big carps jumping at the same time, and it was happening none stop while I was walking through the lagoon.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: milo on December 14, 2013, 07:15:04 PM
OK so now I am confused.  Yes or no to fishing in Lost Lagoon.  Milo, is your post about no fishing based on Freshwater Regs or Van City or ......
Sorry if I am being dim witted.

No worries.
It's municipal legislation.
Lost Lagoon is within the boundaries of Stanley Park, which is a city park that falls within jurisdiction of the City of Vancouver, NOT the Ministry of Environment or BC Parks.
No fishing signs are posted and clearly visible.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Ian Forbes on December 14, 2013, 09:48:22 PM
No worries.
It's municipal legislation.
Lost Lagoon is within the boundaries of Stanley Park, which is a city park that falls within jurisdiction of the City of Vancouver, NOT the Ministry of Environment or BC Parks.
No fishing signs are posted and clearly visible.

You're not supposed to shoot the ducks and geese there, either. :) ;) ;D
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Knnn on December 15, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
No worries.
It's municipal legislation.
Lost Lagoon is within the boundaries of Stanley Park, which is a city park that falls within jurisdiction of the City of Vancouver, NOT the Ministry of Environment or BC Parks.
No fishing signs are posted and clearly visible.

Thank you.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: RyanB on December 15, 2013, 06:36:43 PM
I have seen people using dip nets for smelts on the sea wall.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: Dogbreath on December 16, 2013, 10:53:45 PM
I have seen people using dip nets for smelts on the sea wall.
Those are not dip nets-do an image search to see the differences between nets.

There's been some controversy about allowing Smelt netting from the Seawall, in the past people would just leave what they didn't want on the walkway, garbage, dead fish you name it and there was talk of closing it altogether then for a while in the old pamphlet they used to give out there was an appeal for people to leave the Seawall clean and it seems to have worked.

As to rod/line fishing I've noticed the Guys who fish there now are quite courteous and neat that's good to see it's a beautiful place to fish even if there's SFA to bother with.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: RalphH on December 18, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
No worries.
It's municipal legislation.
Lost Lagoon is within the boundaries of Stanley Park, which is a city park that falls within jurisdiction of the City of Vancouver, NOT the Ministry of Environment or BC Parks.
No fishing signs are posted and clearly visible.
It is not within one jurisdiction and not another. City Law is not legislation. All Provincial & Federal Laws apply. Fishing as an activity is not allowed by the City much like they don't allow parking in certain areas etc.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: milo on December 18, 2013, 11:19:07 AM
It is not within one jurisdiction and not another. City Law is not legislation. All Provincial & Federal Laws apply. Fishing as an activity is not allowed by the City much like they don't allow parking in certain areas etc.

Agreed, but the bottom line is there is no fishing there because the City won't let you.
Title: Re: stanley park
Post by: RyanB on December 19, 2013, 11:37:19 PM
Those are not dip nets-do an image search to see the differences between nets.

There's been some controversy about allowing Smelt netting from the Seawall, in the past people would just leave what they didn't want on the walkway, garbage, dead fish you name it and there was talk of closing it altogether then for a while in the old pamphlet they used to give out there was an appeal for people to leave the Seawall clean and it seems to have worked.

As to rod/line fishing I've noticed the Guys who fish there now are quite courteous and neat that's good to see it's a beautiful place to fish even if there's SFA to bother with.

A small, fine net on the end of a 6' - 8' stick?  That's what I've seen them use. 

I watched a video of a guy using a cast net near Second Beach to catch smelt.  Also near Ambleside pier.