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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: jacklam999 on December 10, 2013, 09:50:07 PM

Title: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 10, 2013, 09:50:07 PM
Just wonder if it is ok to use wd40 to oil the centerpin reel spindle?or need special kind of reel oil?
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Paulo on December 10, 2013, 10:04:56 PM
Do not use WD40 on your CP. Use any type of reel oil or light lubricating oil. Pneumatic gun oil is fairly light if you have it. WD40 is a silicone lubricant and also a cleanser, it will break down existing lubrication without leaving a durable long lasting coat for lubrication like oil.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 10, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
does the tackle store carry those reel oil?
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Fish Assassin on December 10, 2013, 10:40:11 PM
Super Lube Sportsman's Lubricant
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: silver ghost on December 10, 2013, 10:41:17 PM
yah all shops have it
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Shawn6o4 on December 11, 2013, 12:38:32 AM
Canadian tire has it called reel butter
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 01:07:30 AM
how much is it
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Shawn6o4 on December 11, 2013, 01:36:23 AM
Not sure... under 10$ they have a website. Or did you want us to do that too?
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 03:17:04 AM
oh no,I just went on the website and couldnt find any in canadian tire website, i just want to make sure i do not buy the wrong 1 and screw up my reel. Guess is better to go to the tackle store and ask the staff instead.

Thank you
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Shawn6o4 on December 11, 2013, 09:57:37 AM
Its not like I'm trying to give out false info to send you on a goose chase, I bought a bottle a month or so ago from canadian tire (Ardent Reel Butter). Don't remember how much and maybe its not listed on their website but they do carry it, they also have a phone number.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: leapin' tyee on December 11, 2013, 10:41:23 AM
i just want to make sure i do not buy the wrong 1 and screw up my reel.

Thank you

What kind of centerpin reel .  Bearing or bushing ?
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Fish Assassin on December 11, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
how much is it

$19.99
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: TheFishingLad on December 11, 2013, 01:20:07 PM
Little fun fact. WD stands for water displacement. It pretty much F's crap up.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Johnny Canuck on December 11, 2013, 01:23:54 PM
Little fun fact. WD stands for water displacement. It pretty much F's crap up.

The 40 stands for the 40th batch/attempt at the formula.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: TheFishingLad on December 11, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
The 40 stands for the 40th batch/attempt at the formula.
and together we learn.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Suther on December 11, 2013, 01:38:25 PM
The 40 stands for the 40th batch/attempt at the formula.

I used to think it was 40 uses. I remember one time I had a wasp nest in the back of my truck, blasted it with some wd 40 (it was handy) and then started joking its now wd 41! Then a friend pointed out what the 40 actually mean't. My joke wasn't as funny anymore...
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 01:51:03 PM
What kind of centerpin reel .  Bearing or bushing ?

bushing. grey bewick
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 01:54:07 PM
Its not like I'm trying to give out false info to send you on a goose chase, I bought a bottle a month or so ago from canadian tire (Ardent Reel Butter). Don't remember how much and maybe its not listed on their website but they do carry it, they also have a phone number.

oh no, i didnt meant that, im just new to cp fishing, so didnt know much about it. Btw what are the reason that make a centerpin doesnt go smooth as other reel.For example, i realize islander reel spin for like 10mins, but mine doesnt spin that smooth.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: leapin' tyee on December 11, 2013, 02:03:40 PM
For example, i realize islander reel spin for like 10mins, but mine doesnt spin that smooth.

You make sure your Grey Bewick spool center adjustment is right. (Not too tight or too loose).  Clean the spindle and bushing surface(inside the center spool. Re-lube.

B.T.W.  I don't think Islander can spin 10 mins..
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Johnny Canuck on December 11, 2013, 02:17:02 PM
and together we learn.

Together you learn, I already knew what "WD" stood for lol
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 03:01:40 PM
You make sure your Grey Bewick spool center adjustment is right. (Not too tight or too loose).  Clean the spindle and bushing surface(inside the center spool. Re-lube.

B.T.W.  I don't think Islander can spin 10 mins..

is grey bewick a good reel? could not find any review on the reel.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: leapin' tyee on December 11, 2013, 05:23:23 PM
is grey bewick a good reel? could not find any review on the reel.

Designed and engineered in Alnwick, England.
Its looks like .J.W. Young Purist II Centerpin Reel..
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: fisherforever on December 11, 2013, 05:39:25 PM
You need to improve your Google Foo.  :D
Greys Bewick reviews. http://www.fishing.co.uk/article.php3?id=1965  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITUSPTw_4h4  http://coarse.greysfishing.com/en-gb/products/reels/reels/bewick-centrepin/  http://ontariofishingcommunity.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37176
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 07:07:04 PM
Designed and engineered in Alnwick, England.
Its looks like .J.W. Young Purist II Centerpin Reel..

but on the reel holder (the T thing where you put on the rod and hold onto the rod) say is made in Korea, just wonder if just that holder thing is made in korea or the whole reel is made in korea
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 07:07:58 PM
You need to improve your Google Foo.  :D
Greys Bewick reviews. http://www.fishing.co.uk/article.php3?id=1965  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITUSPTw_4h4  http://coarse.greysfishing.com/en-gb/products/reels/reels/bewick-centrepin/  http://ontariofishingcommunity.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37176

thank you, but it seems it is not a popular reel in Canada (Vancouver at least)
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: fisherforever on December 11, 2013, 07:46:34 PM
You'll find the more popular centre pin reels around here are Islander, Milner, Hardy Silexes, Avon Royale Supremes, Okumas. There are others also but these are mainly what you will see.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: leapin' tyee on December 11, 2013, 07:48:20 PM
but on the reel holder (the T thing where you put on the rod and hold onto the rod) say is made in Korea, just wonder if just that holder thing is made in korea or the whole reel is made in korea

More likely , designed and engineered in Alnwick, England, but are made in Korea .
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 08:07:46 PM
You'll find the more popular centre pin reels around here are Islander, Milner, Hardy Silexes, Avon Royale Supremes, Okumas. There are others also but these are mainly what you will see.

and the price is quite high too
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 08:08:02 PM
More likely , designed and engineered in Alnwick, England, but are made in Korea .

is okuma made in korea too?
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: HOOK on December 11, 2013, 09:15:55 PM
Hardy only makes a few of their reel models in house now. The rest they source out to Korea but are still held on the same tolerances as if they were made in the Alnwick shop. Off the top of my head the only models they make are - Perfect (trout, wide spool, salmon, taupo), St. George (trout, salmon), Bougle (2014 model and the limited edition).

I believe everything under the Greys name is designed by Hardy but built in Korea.


I personally liked using sewing machine oil in the Silex I had.

P.S. - the more a bearing reel is used the smoother and longer it will spin. Put some stiff paper flaps taped to the reel handles and then set it in front of a fan and leave it spinning for a couple days. This will "break in" your reel by basically giving it years worth of hand reeling. Make sure its spinning the proper direction, the way you would reel.


I know lots of guys that do this when they buy new Kingfisher's and other bearing reels


Islander's will NEVER spin for 10mins, either will any other reel  ::)

I would love for someone to video a reel spinning for that amount of time with a clock beside it the entire time for proof. indoors without a fan !
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Knnn on December 11, 2013, 09:30:27 PM
WD40 is a pretty good solvent and it is also a lubricant (basically it is a mixture of Stoddard solvent and mineral oil).  Yes it does displace water, but so do all lubricants to a degree (they are all hydrophobic), its a good thing.  If there are no rubber/synthetic seals/materials that could be adversely affected by the solvent component (light distillate aliphatic hydrocarbon) of WD40, I imagine it would be pretty good at stripping out all the old grease and crap and leaving a think veneer of lubricating oil (simply mineral oil).  However, the lubricant it leaves behind may not have the correct viscosity or additives to prevent wear or to provide optimum performance for the bearing.  So I could see WD40 being used to clean a reel and then once wiped clean and air dried to allow the solvent component of WD40 to flash off, applying the proper lubricant would probably work very well.

This is what is in WD40:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/st_whatsinside

Caveat: I do not know the construction of the reels well enough to know if there are any materials that would be adversely affected by a solvent like WD40.  I assume being bushing there are no bearing seals to f$ck up so all should be good, but I stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 11, 2013, 09:33:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhJhqZ79LqI
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: leapin' tyee on December 11, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhJhqZ79LqI

Its stopped at 6.49 , not 10 mins..(in one direction)
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: mbowers on December 12, 2013, 07:01:47 AM
If the reel / line combo were better balanced it would have kept spinning in the same direction and probably spun longer.  I would say 10 mins is about right for the max spin time of that reel.   

As Knnn mentioned WD40 is great for cleaning and ok at lubrication for a little while IMHO.  Adding grease or oil to a bearing cleaned with WD40 seems to keep things smooth for much longer than WD40 alone.

HOOK: Does it matter which way you set the reel to spin under the fan as long as the tag end of the line is secured and you're not unspooling the line?
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: leapin' tyee on December 12, 2013, 08:38:37 AM
If the reel / line combo were better balanced it would have kept spinning in the same direction and probably spun longer.  I would say 10 mins is about right for the max spin time of that reel.   



Can you explain how to balance the reel/line combo..... ::)...
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Johnny Canuck on December 12, 2013, 08:49:50 AM
What sort of speed should the reel be started spinning at?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiuZ3j1QbVw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiuZ3j1QbVw)

I bet the one in the link above spins for 20 minutes if untouched...
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: paul1971 on December 12, 2013, 10:45:18 AM
Sewing machine oil works great
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: jacklam999 on December 12, 2013, 01:05:42 PM
lol mine reel doesnt spin it self when i use my mouth to blow it.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Hambone on December 12, 2013, 01:25:46 PM
I use wd40 on my silex, works fine for me.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: HOOK on December 14, 2013, 11:10:03 AM
HOOK: Does it matter which way you set the reel to spin under the fan as long as the tag end of the line is secured and you're not unspooling the line?


I would set it so that it spins the same direction you would reel it by hand.
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: HOOK on December 14, 2013, 11:14:56 AM
What sort of speed should the reel be started spinning at?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiuZ3j1QbVw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiuZ3j1QbVw)

I bet the one in the link above spins for 20 minutes if untouched...


Seriously ??

If I could reel that fast I would be landing fish in mere seconds !!!

Obviously I meant if spun by hand. I also notice both videos are reels with bearings which of course will out spin a spindle every time hands down. especially with upgraded bearings and proper cleaning/greasing




HOOK - still nothing over the 10 minute mark..............
Title: Re: wd40
Post by: Downchild on December 18, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Quite a lot of good information here on lube.

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=50.0