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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: leadbelly on October 28, 2013, 08:28:11 PM

Title: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: leadbelly on October 28, 2013, 08:28:11 PM
Good fishing for chum today
windy as it gets, power lines down white caps on the water etc,
and as I was putting my waders on this morning a sturdy looking dude walked past walking his dog.
In a T shirt~
Dont mess with Ruskinians
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: koifish on October 29, 2013, 04:13:50 PM
it was crazy wind at the vedder yesturday litterly i could hold my waders up and it will float in the air and my fly rod would bend to lol
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: NiceFish on October 30, 2013, 09:43:22 PM
I was out on the 29th morning for 2 hours. Was into tons of fish, mostly all of them were fairly fresh chum (sea lices, look fairly chrome but with obvious coloration, light grey to white bellies). I believe I lost a coho as well.

I did catch one hatchery female, I didn't realize they did much of a hatchery program with the stave chum?
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: minnie-me on October 30, 2013, 10:37:59 PM
I am not aware of any hatchery chum...anywhere.
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: Rodney on October 30, 2013, 10:57:26 PM
I am not aware of any hatchery chum...anywhere.

There are many hatchery chum salmon production projects (Capilano, Seymour, Chilliwack and many community hatchery programs). I'm not sure about Stave River, or hatchery marked chum salmon. You can always phone Inch Creek Hatchery at 604-826-0244 to get a direct answer.
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: deepcovehooker on November 02, 2013, 07:36:43 AM
I volunteer up at the Seymour hatchery.  We release 100,000-600,000 chum smolts annually.  They of course are not clipped as there is no ridicules rules involving chum as there are on coho.   
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: typhoon on November 02, 2013, 07:56:16 AM
What is the ridiculous part?
That we don't kill wild coho or that we are allowed to keep any coho?
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: redtide on November 02, 2013, 09:48:12 AM
i think deepcovehooker is trying to say that  at the moment the hatchery does not have to clip chum salmon to differentiate between wild chum and hatchery chum. And DFO is not mandating us to keep only clipped hatchery chum. All chum are fair game clipped or unclipped.
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 02, 2013, 11:29:20 AM
There is no chum retention in the Seymour River
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: minnie-me on November 02, 2013, 08:18:29 PM
I am not aware of any hatchery chum...anywhere.

I meant hatchery clipped. ::) :P ;)
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: silver ghost on November 03, 2013, 01:12:55 AM
I meant hatchery clipped. ::) :P ;)

I'm pretty sure there aren't any hatchery clipped chum simply because hatcheries do not raise chum to a stage in their development where the adipose fun is defined enough to be clippable (smolt stage). Coho are clipped when they are about one year old and have been fed for some time. It is my understanding that chum fry are released rather soon after they hatch, with little to no feeding - meaning a smaller sized fish with adipose fin too small to be able to clip safely.
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: silver ghost on November 03, 2013, 01:14:46 AM
...and this is just to beat replicate natural processes. Like pink salmon, chum go to sea soon after hatching. Coho, sockeye, steelhead, and freshwater-type chinook stay in lakes/creeks for a year before out-migrating to the salt.
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: NiceFish on November 03, 2013, 01:53:49 AM
Well it was definitely missing either it found its way into the coho pen or it lost it out at sea to something
Title: Re: Stave River, October 28th 2013
Post by: bkk on November 03, 2013, 12:47:18 PM
I'm pretty sure there aren't any hatchery clipped chum simply because hatcheries do not raise chum to a stage in their development where the adipose fun is defined enough to be clippable (smolt stage). Coho are clipped when they are about one year old and have been fed for some time. It is my understanding that chum fry are released rather soon after they hatch, with little to no feeding - meaning a smaller sized fish with adipose fin too small to be able to clip safely.

Actually there are lots of clipped chum but most people are just fixated on the adipose clip. Most chum are ventral clipped but adipose are also clipped. Chum are generally reared for a target release of 1 - 1.5 grams and fish that size are easy to clip with experienced people doing the work.

Coho are generally reared for a target release of between 18 and 25 grams and are generally clipped at a few months old when they are between 3 and 10 grams. It is actually easier to clip fish that size than when they get larger. Easier on the fish as well.