Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: mojo7 on October 26, 2013, 07:51:46 AM
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I don't like using roe, too stinky/messy. When I catch females I will clean them and leave the roe on the rocks for the guys that like to cure their own roe. The other day I caught a couple of coho and left the roe on the rocks and a little while later a guy came buy and asked how the fishing was and I showed him my catch and he noticed the roe and asked where it came from. I told him I left it there for roe chuckers. He said it is illegal to have roe without a fish and if you get caught you'll get a fine. I didn't know that as I don't fish roe. Is this true and should I just chuck the roe in the river? I don't want to be leaving an illegal mess on the river.
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Give it to me ;D ;D I will take all you catch!! Lol
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If you travel by Surrey to and from the river I'll gladly take it and could meet you to get it from you. :P
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If you travel by Surrey to and from the river I'll gladly take it and could meet you to get it from you. :P
Sorry you are 35 seconds too late JC 8) :P
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I told him I left it there for roe chuckers. He said it is illegal to have roe without a fish and if you get caught you'll get a fine. I didn't know that as I don't fish roe. Is this true and should I just chuck the roe in the river? I don't want to be leaving an illegal mess on the river.
That's true - one is required to have the fish the fresh roe came from. Don't worry about the mess though sea gulls and other scavengers love it. Better on the bank than in the river
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Yes, that law is there to prevent people from killing the fish and just taking roe! I think if you just leave your roe on the rocks, somebody or a bird will take it anyways so it won't go to waste.
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He said it is illegal to have roe without a fish and if you get caught you'll get a fine. I didn't know that as I don't fish roe.
one is required to have the fish the fresh roe came from.
That's not quite true. Only if the quantity of roe is in excess of 1 Kg, do you need to have the fish it came from. A couple coho will be much less than 1 kilo
Don't worry about the mess though sea gulls and other scavengers love it. Better on the bank than in the river
No prob throwing it in the river IMHO. The dollies and whitefish will thank you :)
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Only partly correct,if your going to spout regs then know the regs........Roe… you must not have more than 1 kg of
roe (fish eggs) in your possession for use
as bait unless the roe was obtained from a
commercial source that lawfully obtained
that roe, or you have in your possession
the freshly dressed fish from which the
roe in excess of 1 kg was taken. Carry a
receipt with you if you purchased roe from
a commercial source.................have not weighed skeins but I would hazard a guess that two would definately be under limit and that four average size ones would be kissing the mark.......
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Only partly correct,if your going to spout regs then know the regs........
You are correct of course but since the OP was specifically referring to giving someone roe from a fresh caught fish, that's what being clarified.
have not weighed skeins but I would hazard a guess that two would definately be under limit and that four average size ones would be kissing the mark.......
Last week I weighed 4 skeins to be about 560 grams and a couple days later 4 different skeins at 620 grams.
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You could use it to make caviar. I don't fish with roe I think it's unethical. But I eat caviar at any opportunity I get! Make sure you freeze it first for food safety reasons.
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You could use it to make caviar. I don't fish with roe I think it's unethical. But I eat caviar at any opportunity I get! Make sure you freeze it first for food safety reasons.
What is unethical about fishing roe?
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What is unethical about fishing roe?
It's banned in most countries in Europe. Nuff said.
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It's banned in most countries in Europe. Nuff said.
Sticking a sharp metal object in the fish and have it struggle for it's life is unethical but I don't see fishing banned.
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What is unethical about fishing roe?
Yeah, I would be interested to hear your explanation as well...
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The 1 kg rule is used as an enforcement tool to prosecute roe poachers / people who slit fish for the roe like others have said in the thread. I have never seen/heard of fisheries or conservation officers giving out fines for this offence. From their perspective, I'm sure they're happy to see people make use of the roe.
For lack of a better example... jaywalking... if you do it in front of a cop in a calm traffic area, no big. But if you do it in on a highway, you'll probably get a ticket.
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Yeah, I would be interested to hear your explanation as well...
I think ethics is a personal thing. Just like religion, sexuality, choosing a hockey team etc. there is no right or wrong answer it's just a personal choice.
But, for what it's worth, you have answered part of the question. I seen way too many dead fish on the bar with their bellies cut open and the roe gone. Ditto people bonking females for the roe but releasing males. Can't be good for the ecology. Most serious duck hunters will only kill males to help the reproduction cycle. The crab fishery has a no female retention rule so there must be some scientific reason not to selectively kill only females.
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make caviar with it.
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That's true - one is required to have the fish the fresh roe came from. Don't worry about the mess though sea gulls and other scavengers love it. Better on the bank than in the river
thanks to those who clarified the 2kg rule. I stand corrected.
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it's been claimed that fishing with roe provides a vector for disease transfer from one area to another. No biologists disagree with this claim but it's not clear how serious or insignificant a factor it is.
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make caviar with it.
X2!
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I think ethics is a personal thing. Just like religion, sexuality, choosing a hockey team etc. there is no right or wrong answer it's just a personal choice.
But, for what it's worth, you have answered part of the question. I seen way too many dead fish on the bar with their bellies cut open and the roe gone. Ditto people bonking females for the roe but releasing males. Can't be good for the ecology. Most serious duck hunters will only kill males to help the reproduction cycle. The crab fishery has a no female retention rule so there must be some scientific reason not to selectively kill only females.
Fair enough... Not to stir the pot or anything, but the chilliwack hatchery (and most hatcheries) receives well above and beyond their broodstock target each and every year, and the surplus is collected and given away/sold anyways, so one might argue that many of the female hatchery fish people may/may not be picking through are not going to make it to spawn anyways. Also, I believe the hatchery uses wild only for their brood (maybe someone could clarify).
Nevertheless, I would have to agree with you that far too often guys bonk only for the roe and leave the fish behind which is unethical. But I still love fishing roe when I have access to it and can obtain it ethically :D
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make caviar with it.
Oh yeah. You can use a badminton racket to get rid of all the weird stuff.
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Also, I believe the hatchery uses wild only for their brood (maybe someone could clarify).
No, the Chilliwack Hatchery uses whatever coho swim into the brailer, breaking these into three timing groups spread over a few months.. Steelhead broodstock however, are all adipose finned.
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I think ethics is a personal thing. Just like religion, sexuality, choosing a hockey team etc. there is no right or wrong answer it's just a personal choice.
But, for what it's worth, you have answered part of the question. I seen way too many dead fish on the bar with their bellies cut open and the roe gone. Ditto people bonking females for the roe but releasing males. Can't be good for the ecology. Most serious duck hunters will only kill males to help the reproduction cycle. The crab fishery has a no female retention rule so there must be some scientific reason not to selectively kill only females.
I like your way of thinking!! I don't use roe either but I hate having messy hands!!
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I am grateful for people like the original poster who leave their roe behind. A couple weeks ago I was cursing myself for leaving my roe at home. As soon as it got light enough to fish, my dad pointed out to me a skein that had been left behind the day before. Three casts later and I had a hatchery hen on the bank.
Has anyone noticed that roe catches more females? Of the 8 coho I brought home over the past 3 weekends, all were female.
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I read recently that the females go all aggro over roe because they don't want some other biatch's eggs getting near her nest. They mouth the eggs to move them away from their territory.
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yes I have always noticed I get mostly females on roe also. mostly males on hardware it seems though. When I do get a male on roe its usually a very large one though
the reasoning behind them moving the eggs away makes total sense.
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the reasoning behind them moving the eggs away makes total sense.
it's actually a very shaky conclusion. The percentages of eggs that survive to hatch and grow to adults is so low the movement idea presents a high % of energy expended for very low return. Almost all loose eggs are or will shortly die though it could be argued dead eggs in the redd present a serious disease threat to live eggs.
A better explanation would go back to the 'imprint' explanation of why non-feeding fish like salmon returning to spawn, bite. Eggs are probably the single best high energy food source available. Makes sense adult fish would imprint and respond to these as a food source they took as parr etc.