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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: newb33 on October 24, 2013, 02:08:06 PM
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Like the title says newer fisherman I am and got a Abu Garcia c3 what line is good to spool it
Going to fish the vedder river
Thanks
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A 5K or a 6K?
If the former, I'd go with 15# Maxima. You don't need anything heavier than that if you fish ethically and don't snag fish.
In my humble opinion, only beeks load their baitcasters with braid to fish the Vedder.
If it is a 6K reel, I'd put 50 yards of 25# backing, and again fill up the spool with 15 pound test. (It'll take 250 yards of 15# test without backing).
Anything more than 15# test mainline on the Vedder is a bit too much. You may go up to 20# test if you are targeting springs and chum, but for coho it is definitely overkill.
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Braid is highly visible and it floats making it easier to mend. It also gives me a lot more capacity on my low profile levelwind.
I use braid exclusively (including the Vedder) and prefer to think of myself as "not a beek", thank you. ;D
I agree that 15# test is sufficient.
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Braid is highly visible and it floats making it easier to mend. It also gives me a lot more capacity on my low profile levelwind.
I use braid exclusively (including the Vedder) and prefer to think of myself as "not a beek", thank you.
I agree that 15# test is sufficient.
Hey Typhoon, you are right!
I guess that my previous statement accidentally included people like you, who fish low profile baitcasters with 15-20# test braid. My apologies.
Braid definitely has its place and applications (I sometimes use it with my spinning rod to toss blades), but a C3 reel to use on the Vedder is NOT one of them.
I was thinking of those dudes that put 60-100# braid on round baitcasters and generally fish without a float, usually with very long leaders. When I ask them why they fish braid, they usually respond " you feel the bite better". ::)
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If it is a 6K reel, I'd put 50 yards of 25# backing, and again fill up the spool with 15 pound test. (It'll take around 200 yards).
What is the reasoning behind the 25# backing?
I have a 6500C3 with 15# mono.
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What is the reasoning behind the 25# backing?
I have a 6500C3 with 15# mono.
I assume the thicker mono gives the braid something to grab to avoid slipping on the reel, it's also lighter on the wallet because braid is more costly than mono.
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I assume the thicker mono gives the braid something to grab to avoid slipping on the reel, it's also lighter on the wallet because braid is more costly than mono.
But I think Milo was talking about 15#mono on 25#mono though. Maybe I am wrong.
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What is the reasoning behind the 25# backing?
I have a 6500C3 with 15# mono.
If you read instruction it says that spool for the best performance needs to be filled with the line up to 3 or 4 mm of the edge. Since he recommends to fill spool with 200 yards of #15 you have to make somehow for the difference hence #25 filler.
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But I think Milo was talking about 15#mono on 25#mono though. Maybe I am wrong.
You are correct.
The reasoning is to reduce the amount of 15# mono used. The 6K C3s have huge spool capacity.
It takes a motherload (250 yards) of 15# test to fill it up, but you basically never use the back half.
Putting a 'base' of thick 25# (even 30#) test mono reduces considerably spool capacity. To fish the Vedder, you really don't need any more than 100-120 yards of 'active' line, unless you foul hook a spring and want to follow it all the way to the Fraser.
There are other creative ways of reducing spool capacity, but I find that 50 yards of thick mono does the best job. The connection between the 'backing' and the mainline is easy and discrete - the venerable blood knot.
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Thanks I went with 10lb mono for the whole thing hopefully it's good
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Thanks I went with 10lb mono for the whole thing hopefully it's good
No, it's not. It's too light for a reel that size. And too much line. Let me guess...350 yards? :o
Now you will need to fish a leader no stronger than 6-8# test.
Otherwise, your'll be snapping the main line all the time.
I wonder why you asked for advice and then disregarded it. ::)
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While I agree for the most part in what you say, I do have a 10lb mono set up myself for those days that I fish the canal and specifically target coho. I don't use it often though. I use it mostly roe fishing in very slow and clear water conditions. I find the line does not drag in the river as much and I don't need to mend as often. This is important when you are trying detect the subtle bites. Kind of like chronimid fishing but with a bit of flow.
I primarily use 12lb mono for mainline. Still fine for low water applications but I'm covered if I decide to head up river and fish faster water. I don't specifically target springs so I rarely need anything over 12lb.
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While I agree for the most part in what you say, I do have a 10lb mono set up myself for those days that I fish the canal and specifically target coho. I don't use it often though. I use it mostly roe fishing in very slow and clear water conditions. I find the line does not drag in the river as much and I don't need to mend as often. This is important when you are trying detect the subtle bites. Kind of like chronimid fishing but with a bit of flow.
I primarily use 12lb mono for mainline. Still fine for low water applications but I'm covered if I decide to head up river and fish faster water. I don't specifically target springs so I rarely need anything over 12lb.
Stratocaster, I totally get it. Of course 10# mono mainline can be the perfect choice on the Vedder in certain situations. But in that case you want a smaller round baitcaster to match those situations, such as the 4600 C3 or a Calcutta 200B. Or even better, a low profile one such as the Revo or Curado. But not a 6500C3 that will take up to 400 yards of 10# test mono to fill up.
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Stratocaster, I totally get it. Of course 10# mono mainline can be the perfect choice on the Vedder in certain situations. But in that case you want a smaller round baitcaster to match those situations, such as the 4600 C3 or a Calcutta 200B. Or even better, a low profile one such as the Revo or Curado. But not a 6500C3 that will take up to 400 yards of 10# test mono to fill up.
Yep your right, I have my set up on a Calcutta 200 GT TE. I use a lamiglas dave vedder 8-12lb rod. Great set up for the cap as well.
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Yep your right, I have my set up on a Calcutta 200 GT TE. I use a lamiglas dave vedder 8-12lb rod. Great set up for the cap as well.
I have the exact same setup. It's sweet! Although mine is only a Calcutta 200B. Love that rod though.
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i do appreciate your advise im still a rookie to fishing only go out 5-6 times a year and never catch anything so i dont go much, i was at army and navy and was talking to the guy there hes the one that pointed me towards the 10 lb mono it was affordable and i dont understand the whole backing thing and and alot of the fish terminology, and so you know im a newby i was at the veddar today without waders and hiked for hours and couldnt find a place to fish without waders how bout some advice on some cheap waders that will work decent where i can actually get to a fishing spot
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Sims has good waders I spent 200 on my mine awesome waders very happy with them.Yrs I went without waders always shorts and sandals not so good when it get cold out.All depends what you want to spend and can afford, go cheap now then upgrade later.Waders make it so much easier without them its like a handicap (no pun intended) just limits you on the river.Deepest I go is knee any deeper to me is not worth it.You have to keep safety in mind with waders they kill people.
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i do appreciate your advise im still a rookie to fishing only go out 5-6 times a year and never catch anything so i dont go much, i was at army and navy and was talking to the guy there hes the one that pointed me towards the 10 lb mono it was affordable and i dont understand the whole backing thing and and alot of the fish terminology, and so you know im a newby i was at the veddar today without waders and hiked for hours and couldnt find a place to fish without waders how bout some advice on some cheap waders that will work decent where i can actually get to a fishing spot
You can still get cheaper neos however they aren't as comfortable as breathables for a distance walking, just check A@N or Amazon.
Remember though that with neos you'd need at least one size bigger wading shoes.
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i do appreciate your advise im still a rookie to fishing only go out 5-6 times a year and never catch anything so i dont go much, i was at army and navy and was talking to the guy there hes the one that pointed me towards the 10 lb mono it was affordable and i dont understand the whole backing thing and and alot of the fish terminology, and so you know im a newby i was at the veddar today without waders and hiked for hours and couldnt find a place to fish without waders how bout some advice on some cheap waders that will work decent where i can actually get to a fishing spot
http://www.basspro.com/Simms-Drift-StockingFoot-Waders-for-Men/product/12080705121734/
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sorry im 6 feet 225 size 13
40 waist but thanks
i think my chances of finding used in my size is going to be a longshot