Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: fishtruck on October 14, 2013, 11:50:34 AM
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Saw someone on the Vedder Saturday hopping a jig. Seem to hook into a lot of fish,however some seem to be snags. I'm somewhat familiar with dead drifting a jig, what are the pros and cons of each method? I usually short float my jigs because I know that they are rock magnets if you are at the bottom. Just intrigued how others might approach these particular methods. Thanks!
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I drift my jigs under a float with as natural drift as possible with the occasional twitch here and there.
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I was out today not catching many but the guy beside me was using a jig with no float,and he was hooking fish a lot more often,but 80% were fool hooked, but he did catch his limt in mouth, he said it doesn't matter if you foul hook a few as long as u only keep the the fish u catch in the mouth.lol,I gues that's true,
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A bunch of guys were doing that on the weekend at my spot I like to fish. Scared all the fish in the pool so no chance of catching them on roe after that. Whatever helps these guys sleep at night... I always outfish these guys snagging/flossing when I use roe until they spook all the fish from biting.
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I find in slow water if you twitch the jig constantly while reeling in, you'll do well with no float. In faster water, suspending it under a float and letting it drift is better.
If someone's snagging a bunch then they are doing more than twitching or drifting it, they are most likely pulling up too hard which obviously would end up in snagging given the hook faces up on a jig.
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I know that if I short float my jig, there's little chance that I snag. Since I fish mostly lower part of vedder by canal
, what I worry about is snagging a fish ,then releasing it and have that fish die before it has a chance to get up river to do it's thing. It just doesn't make enough sense for me to start that method, even if I catch more fish. I'm happy catching less if it means that I don't foul hook them. That doesn't mean that all who fish that style are snagging them, it's just that I prefer to avoid snagging them if at all possible.
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I also read that Bent rod also suggest you twitch it a little every so often while dead drifting. I guess it creates more of a pulsing action on your jig.
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hopping jig is a killer for chum. Although i never done it in vedder but u'll rarely foul hook, I had a 100% no foul hook short floating last year hopping the jig. Now, if ur fishing a pool with other species that are all over the place like pinks....u might just foul hook them. I haven't tried jig fishing in vedder for coho but i should try one day as i've caught coho in other lower mainland flow dead drifting and occasional twitch when im targetting coho.
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I have been twitching jigs for more than a decade and I very rarely snag a fish. I like to give it a quick SHORT snap, it will cause the jig to jump up maybe 12 inches then sink again...I think this eratic action triggers strikes. If your stroke isnt too long, then while you may bump a fish, the hook wont penetrate. Its much like buzz bombing, the fish almost alway hit on the fall and then its an immediate hook set on the next snap.
on a side note, I have only ever hooked a chum floating a jig. i usually use jigs in pools/frog water and float roe in runs with good flow....
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I'm thinking that if you don't pull on every little twitch and be more aware of what a real bite feels like, the chances are greatly reduced for snagging.
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I was at the canal the other day, fishing was good, but after the tide the fishing slowed quite a bit. The odd fish was taken on spinners but for the most part the fish were ignoring roe. I had a couple hatchery caught on roe and decided to short float a jig since nobody else was. In faster water the jig naturally pulses and moves vertically with the riffles but in the flat water of the canal the motion isn't the same. I tried a couple dead drifts with no touches. I then dedided to impart some motion to the jig. Since i was using my CP I would quickly brake my reel every 5 seconds or so. I was instantly into fish. In the next 10 drifts i caught two coho and a chum. It was this post that made me think of trying it. Glad I did. Thanks for the post.
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never thought of braking the pin with jigs, gonna have to try that out.
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never thought of braking the pin with jigs, gonna have to try that out.
Started by flicking the tip then realized braking accomplishes the same thing without as much effort.
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I landed a hatch coho Wednesday by twitching a jig in dead water. Same as what most have said, tried something different and the fish hammered it. As I was leery of snagging one, all I had to do was make sure that the fish was indeed on before I set the hook instead of pulling on every bump. Since I wasn't on the bottom that wasn't too hard. There were several times when a fish would come to explore, and nudge or slap the jig as it was leaving. But if you let the fish take it and make sure, then you shouldn't have a problem.
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Just tried twitching jigs today at the canal. Hooked into lots of fish better than short floating jig. Then I hooked into a chum and snapped my rod tip like it was tooth pick! Either way, I landed the chum and killed him. His on the smoker now!
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Ive not had any success twitching jigs in slack water for uncooperative coho.
Gave it a good go today on a pile of fish, could feel bumps here and there and one bite but no luck.
Is this not as easy at it looks? Im wondering what I may be doing wrong lol.
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I found that casting out in a pool and let your jig get close to the bottom before you start your twitch(start at 9 0'clock then twitch to 10 0'clock, bring rod tip back to 9 o'clock, follow by retrieve)work best. As most have said before, the strikes have come when the jig is going back down(this causes the jig to flutter). Just be prepared to set your hook on the drop. Hope that helps, but experimenting with different conditions and different styles might bring you some fish. Good-luck
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Well guys.
I have never really looked into this before, but figured I would add something else once again to the arsenal. I already "jigged" spoons quite frequently, with great success for coho when others around were not doing well, so figured this wouldn't be much of a change.
Tried it on the first day in a river I've never had luck in. Got 2 coho and 6 chum, all chrome, and within 3 hours. In that same time my trusty spoons, spinners and whatever else I threw hit only 2 other coho.
Then yesterday same thing happened, except this time on a river I knew well. Nothing on spoons, switched to jigs and got 3 fish in 3 casts. It was much of the same throughout the day, and then today the same thing (except fly fishing out does all in this low clear water).
I cast out and start jigging immediately. Modified my spoon jigging technique a little and it works wonders. Cast out and start jig at 9 o clock and up to 12 o clock in a slow deliberate motion, as it's dropping I do a half crank of the reel. Leaved it in the fish's face for longer, and has resulted in well over 20 hook ups the past 2 days.
Only thing I can add to this thread is experiment with colour. Have tried a multitude of different colours the past 3 days, and one always works better than the rest. Pretty much a steelhead intruder tied to a jig, and that's all they've wanted. Been getting coho on other colours here and there, but the one combo is money. Tie up a bunch of different colours and run em all through, if you don't get a hit first 5 casts, I'd change, it's normally pretty quick.
PS... lots of talk of snagging... Out of probably close to 30 fish hooked between Kitty and I the last 3 days, only 4 have been snagged, and they were always chum. From a vantage point, the coho will always move out of the way if they don't want it, whereas the chum never move. On that note, that slow deliberate action I'm talking about hasn't snagged many, but while doing other twitching methods, fast and sharp, short and sharp, fast in general, we snagged more. Important to not set the hook unless to have some pretty good weight and a head shake from what I've found. Every single fish that bit from the vantage point I was standing on was easily noticeable, and always felt like a fish biting. It's not like spinners and spoons where they hit "light" from what I have found so far.
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Thanks
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Agree with Every Day 100%. I found that blue and black with sparklies also very productive. And at last light anything with sparklies work well.
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Hey you guys who've had success, do you tie it straight to your mainline? I have a 2-3ft fluoro leader tied to a swivel, do you think the leader wrecks the action of the jig when twitching?
Thanks.
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I've fished with and without leader. It doesn't seem to make any difference for me.