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Title: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: paulj on September 10, 2013, 08:02:57 PM
To those that are using centrepin:
I have recently started using centrepin and find that the line does not go out smoothly while drifting. I find that the reel stops spinning because the line get stuck  in the spool and i have to gently pull it out so that it will continue its drift. 

Why is this happening? Could it be that i have not spooled reel correctly? Im using maxima ultra green  12 lb mono and brand new raven matrix.
Any advice would be much appreciated!!

Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: BNF861 on September 10, 2013, 08:10:36 PM
Does this happen to you after pulling on a snag or setting the hook on a fish?

If the line is spooled too loose, when you pull hard on something the line can dig in a bit.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Bently on September 10, 2013, 08:27:50 PM
The line must be spooled to loose, not that it really matters but did you put backing on it first ?? maybe take it to a local tackle shop and they can take the line off for you and re-spool it with the machine and get it tighter. The only time I have ever had that happen was when i wasn't paying attention and let the line build up on one side of the spool too much, the line fell over and created a back lash, good thing it was just another cast and not when a fish was on. :o

just a thought.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: paulj on September 10, 2013, 08:41:27 PM
Yes, actually I did notice that it happened after I reeled in a fish. Thanks.

Does this happen to you after pulling on a snag or setting the hook on a fish?

If the line is spooled too loose, when you pull hard on something the line can dig in a bit.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: paulj on September 10, 2013, 08:42:22 PM
Thanks for the advise. I think it's a good idea to have respooled tighter.

The line must be spooled to loose, not that it really matters but did you put backing on it first ?? maybe take it to a local tackle shop and they can take the line off for you and re-spool it with the machine and get it tighter. The only time I have ever had that happen was when i wasn't paying attention and let the line build up on one side of the spool too much, the line fell over and created a back lash, good thing it was just another cast and not when a fish was on. :o

just a thought.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: paulj on September 10, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
While we are on the subject of centrepin, why is it wrong to fight the fish with the clicker on? I hear it damages the drag system? Is this true? I see people fighting  fish with the clicker on sometimes.   
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: bigblue on September 10, 2013, 08:45:24 PM
When the line is properly spooled it shouldn't bind at all. In my reels, I put 100 yards of Dacron backing plus 100 yards of #15 p-line mono and never had a problem.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: bigblue on September 10, 2013, 08:50:48 PM
While we are on the subject of centrepin, why is it wrong to fight the fish with the clicker on? I hear it damages the drag system? Is this true? I see people fighting  fish with the clicker on sometimes.

Clicker is not really a drag and I don't think it could be damaged by playing a fish while its on. I think it might be annoying to other fishermen if a fish is played for a long time with the clicker on. LOL.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: bigblockfox on September 10, 2013, 09:31:21 PM
its preference. i honestly don't think their is a right way or a wrong way.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 10, 2013, 09:36:40 PM
Clicker is not really a drag and I don't think it could be damaged by playing a fish while its on. I think it might be annoying to other fishermen if a fish is played for a long time with the clicker on. LOL.

X2 Some people consider it as "showing off"
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Johnny Canuck on September 10, 2013, 10:30:06 PM
Playing fish with the clicker on is a "newbie" or "beek" maneuver, some more seasoned anglers mock the one's who play fish with their clickers on.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Geff_t on September 10, 2013, 10:39:23 PM
On some rivers playing a fish with the clicker on is a dinner bell for the local bears. These are seasoned bears that have been on and around the river and have been accustomed to the sound of the clicker.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Bently on September 10, 2013, 10:54:07 PM
Playing fish with the clicker on is a "newbie" or "beek" maneuver, some more seasoned anglers mock the one's who play fish with their clickers on.

I've been centerpin fishing since 1975 and NOT ONCE would I ever want the clicker to be off, i LIKE the sound of a screaming reel, it's all part of the fun listening to a reel scream while a double digit steelhead goes on a run.

The people your talking about that say it's a "newbie" or "beak" maneuver are usually young hipsters that think there gods gift to the centerpin. When my old hardy or talisman screams it's a blast just like it was waay back in the day and if anyone ever came up to me and told me to turn my clicker off I'd tell them there nothing but a....how would Dion say it ?? "A Well Educated Human Being".

Use the clicker, listen to it scream, that's a sound i never get bored of. I mean they didn't make old reels that growl for nothing, why should it be any different these days, cause a few clowns say it's annoying ?? what a joke that is hahahaha. :o

@ Geff_t, so is a gunshot but I'm not about to give up my rifles and settle on bow hunting only. ;)
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: rjs on September 10, 2013, 10:54:39 PM
While we are on the subject of centrepin, why is it wrong to fight the fish with the clicker on? I hear it damages the drag system? Is this true? I see people fighting  fish with the clicker on sometimes.


don't turn the alarm system on or u will have 6 guys fishing shoulder to shoulder in  your spot hehe
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Geff_t on September 10, 2013, 11:15:48 PM
I've been centerpin fishing since 1975 and NOT ONCE would I ever want the clicker to be off, i LIKE the sound of a screaming reel, it's all part of the fun listening to a reel scream while a double digit steelhead goes on a run.

The people your talking about that say it's a "newbie" or "beak" maneuver are usually young hipsters that think there gods gift to the centerpin. When my old hardy or talisman screams it's a blast just like it was waay back in the day and if anyone ever came up to me and told me to turn my clicker off I'd tell them there nothing but a....how would Dion say it ?? "A Well Educated Human Being".

Use the clicker, listen to it scream, that's a sound i never get bored of. I mean they didn't make old reels that growl for nothing, why should it be any different these days, cause a few clowns say it's annoying ?? what a joke that is hahahaha. :o

@ Geff_t, so is a gunshot but I'm not about to give up my rifles and settle on bow hunting only. ;)

I still, like you, love the sound of my clicker while fighting a fish and only turn it on when on certain smaller streams where I know the bears like to hear that sweet sound of the clicker. I don't care what people say when it is on, I just no longer like having a bear meet me on the trail when I am done fishing.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: TROY B on September 11, 2013, 07:42:46 PM
I am with bentley 100%
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Spoonman on September 11, 2013, 08:11:51 PM
When using the pin it is helpful to play the line side to side (much like the worm gear on a level-wind)onto the spool with your fingers on the retrieve.This will spread the line out with some tension and help prevent loose line/line digging.Clicker use is personal but overuse will cause premature wear to clicker pawl.Save it for large/hot fish likely to make large/fast runs that would possibly cause operator error/over-runs
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: paulj on September 11, 2013, 08:38:38 PM
Hey spoonman
Thanks for the great advise! Tight lines!

When using the pin it is helpful to play the line side to side (much like the worm gear on a level-wind)onto the spool with your fingers on the retrieve.This will spread the line out with some tension and help prevent loose line/line digging.Clicker use is personal but overuse will cause premature wear to clicker pawl.Save it for large/hot fish likely to make large/fast runs that would possibly cause operator error/over-runs
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Johnny Canuck on September 11, 2013, 10:09:22 PM
I've been centerpin fishing since 1975 and NOT ONCE would I ever want the clicker to be off, i LIKE the sound of a screaming reel, it's all part of the fun listening to a reel scream while a double digit steelhead goes on a run.

The people your talking about that say it's a "newbie" or "beak" maneuver are usually young hipsters that think there gods gift to the centerpin. When my old hardy or talisman screams it's a blast just like it was waay back in the day and if anyone ever came up to me and told me to turn my clicker off I'd tell them there nothing but a....how would Dion say it ?? "A Well Educated Human Being".

Use the clicker, listen to it scream, that's a sound i never get bored of. I mean they didn't make old reels that growl for nothing, why should it be any different these days, cause a few clowns say it's annoying ?? what a joke that is hahahaha. :o

@ Geff_t, so is a gunshot but I'm not about to give up my rifles and settle on bow hunting only. ;)

You probably yell "FISH ON!" also... Even if no one is around.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Dennis.t on September 11, 2013, 10:20:16 PM
Clicker off. I don't need to advertise to everyone I have a fish on! Lol :o
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Bently on September 11, 2013, 11:13:01 PM
You probably yell "FISH ON!" also... Even if no one is around.

Ya okay, as you hide behind your keyboard tossing insults and sarcasm daily, it's old already little man, go fishing and get a life.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: salmonlover on September 11, 2013, 11:47:20 PM
Ya okay, as you hide behind your keyboard tossing insults and sarcasm daily, it's old already little man, go fishing and get a life.

You get used to his abrasive comments lol pretty much just ignore his post as he always has something negative say. I've come to the conclusion he was never loved as a kid or not happy with the size of his fishing rod  :P
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: jpar247 on September 12, 2013, 02:37:20 AM
Make sure you dont have too much line on the spool. Also like said before, i found I would reel in with the reel facing up on a 45. I would build up more line on the one side of the spool. Found that would sometimes affect my toss.

After tossing light gear for Pinks with the Pin I've figured out you have to have a bit of weight on the end of your line to load that rod. Too light of gear and its birds nest central!
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Riverman on September 12, 2013, 06:20:16 AM
 I use the clicker if I feel like it.Often as not I do not.My fishing experience.My preference.End of story.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: mojo7 on September 12, 2013, 07:48:19 AM
One of the least publicized pleasures of fishing is trolling  (that is troll in internet use of the word, not the angling use, in the old days we used to call it being a d*ckhead ;D)  when  you've had a nasty snag and lost everything, float included, and you're taking off the next 5-10Ft of well worn mainline. The looks you get when you enthusiastically, perhaps overly so in my case, pull off your line with clicker engaged. All heads on the river turn towards your direction.

If you could only read minds. That would be more entertaining than fishing.  ;D

Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Johnny Canuck on September 12, 2013, 04:55:03 PM
The worm gear idea with the fingers works well. I have found with my rod that there is a sweet spot for the reel to be in in the reel seat as I used to have to do the worm gear finger thing. Try leveling off the line on the reel doing the worm gear thing then once it is leveled off loosen the reel seat and try moving the reel to the left or the right a bit. After I found the sweet spot on my rod I took an ultra fine point sharpie and made two little marks on the reel seat so it's easy to find it again.



Ya okay, as you hide behind your keyboard tossing insults and sarcasm daily, it's old already little man, go fishing and get a life.

What happened to your other reply Bently? Funny how you're a hypocrit because this is what you originally posted before you edited it out.
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Sorry there hipster, but that's your line. Try posting something helpful or relevant instead of insults and sarcasm, you act like a mouthy little punk bitch on here almost daily, it's old already.
I sure love getting notifications of new posts via email, but I know you've been fishing since such and such date so you're entitled to insult others when someone takes a little poke at you. Sorry you're so old and sensitive...


You get used to his abrasive comments lol pretty much just ignore his post as he always has something negative say. I've come to the conclusion he was never loved as a kid or not happy with the size of his fishing rod  :P

I guess anything a person doesn't agree with is "abrasive" thing is I just say it like it is and too many people now a days are sheltered little babies made of sugar. Not ashamed of the "size of my rod" it's the average size (11' 3") and it's whether or not you know how to use it, and I for sure know how to use mine...
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: tworivers on September 12, 2013, 05:42:14 PM
Average? Geez, I've always felt that when I had my 3113 in my hands I had something special.
Something a little more than the other guy.

The wife has used it on occasion. At first she took it slow, as she was used to much smaller rods.
But as time passed she experienced the benefits of the 3113 and always welcomed the smile it would put on her face.

Now thanks to Johnny Canuck, my 3113M feels like a L ;D
 

Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Bently on September 12, 2013, 07:23:42 PM


What happened to your other reply Bently? Funny how you're a hypocrit because this is what you originally posted before you edited it out.  I sure love getting notifications of new posts via email, but I know you've been fishing since such and such date so you're entitled to insult others when someone takes a little poke at you. Sorry you're so old and sensitive...


Ya, I figured it was a bit over the top, but now that I think about it I should have just left it up, I mean after all, why hide the truth about you. There's really no sense in dealing with you anymore, your still wet behind the ears, maybe you should get a paper route so you can save up for that fancy new yellow raincoat you so desperately want for this winter. Later Bumbly

Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Johnny Canuck on September 12, 2013, 10:55:10 PM
Average? Geez, I've always felt that when I had my 3113 in my hands I had something special.
Something a little more than the other guy.

The wife has used it on occasion. At first she took it slow, as she was used to much smaller rods.
But as time passed she experienced the benefits of the 3113 and always welcomed the smile it would put on her face.

Now thanks to Johnny Canuck, my 3113M feels like a L ;D
 

Mines an LB  :o  :-[


Ya, I figured it was a bit over the top, but now that I think about it I should have just left it up, I mean after all, why hide the truth about you. There's really no sense in dealing with you anymore, your still wet behind the ears, maybe you should get a paper route so you can save up for that fancy new yellow raincoat you so desperately want for this winter. Later Bumbly

Like I said, a hypocrite. You don't even know me, you're just assuming. This isn't sharphooks, there actually are people who come and enjoy this site like myself. Some of them are children so maybe act like an adult and teach the younger generation something. Now stop acting like a grumpy old fart with his depends stuffed so far up his butt because I said you yell "FISH ON!" when no one else is around.










Geeeeeeez some people are just so strung out and need to take a valium and go fishing.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: bigblockfox on September 13, 2013, 12:09:05 PM
maybe you should take your own advice before calling anglers beeks or newbies for fishing a different way than you do. who cares if someone wants to fight the fish with the clicker on. get over it and move on.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Johnny Canuck on September 13, 2013, 04:33:33 PM
The only people i have seen use a clicker are beaks and guys on fishing shows. I did when I first learned how to pin fish but  quickly stopped when I realized it didnt do anything but make a lot of noise. To each their own though

Wanna come help me deliver papers to elitist Bently's place? We could get matching yellow rain coats!   ;D
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: fisherforever on September 13, 2013, 05:38:39 PM
maybe you should take your own advice before calling anglers beeks or newbies for fishing a different way than you do. who cares if someone wants to fight the fish with the clicker on. get over it and move on.
.                                                                                                                                                                     X 2.  Time to call the Waaaaambulance, fighting over the use of a clicker, childish!!!
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: Bently on September 13, 2013, 06:38:59 PM
The only people i have seen use a clicker are beaks and guys on fishing shows. I did when I first learned how to pin fish but  quickly stopped when I realized it didnt do anything but make a lot of noise. To each their own though

Another young fella who I believe has only had a centerpin reel in his hand for a few years and now says this kinda stuff, sad when you think about it. I guess all spey fishermen who have the old classic reels that growl are beaks too eh, or should they also palm without the clicker on  their reels. You poor guys are lost in the show biz of a simple reel{s} that has been around longer than anyone on here, wake up !

Do whatever you prefer, myself ? I like the sound of my ol reel a screamin, keeps me comin back for more all the time, just like when you hit that 300 yard drive or hit one outta the park. Feels good and that's what it's all about, guess not so much for the young gun here and there, their too worried about lookin good out there in the yankee snap back lids and their white fluffy hoodies under their wader coat.......... blah blah blah.
Title: Re: Spooling centrepin reels
Post by: TROY B on September 14, 2013, 12:32:47 AM
LOL I thought this was about spooling line on reels..Ahh Bentley waste of time  trying to get through to rookies like jc