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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jace on September 03, 2013, 04:02:57 PM
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Does anyone know if peg leg is accessible by 4x4 ?
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It is not accessible by 4x4
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According to my fishing partner who lives out there, the channel at the end of the road is now cut 6' to 8' deep. It no longer angles off up through the big island but runs all the way up to the corn field. apparently no way of even driving further up to cross over. He reports also that the sand/gravel ledge that guys were standing on the past few years has now mostly washed away and is pretty much just a shallow (and fast) part of the channel.
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I went out to Peg Leg one time to see it.
When i witnessed the gong show of snaggers it was disturbing.
Watching guys cast 15 ft and snag with 30 lb test line. Quickly dragged onto the beach.
That was not fishing that i saw.
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Those days are over.....pretty much boat access only. Its not even walkable until the salmon season is over.....and that depends on how much more it dug out this year. There is a small section to the west that you can walk out to.....but the main river to the north is boat access only.
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I seen guys crossing the channel on foot on the weekend although it looked super sketchy to say the least.
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Is it still possible to launch a boat there?
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Difficult, but not impossible. I would not consider doing it with a 2 wheel drive though.
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I went out to Peg Leg one time to see it.
When i witnessed the gong show of snaggers it was disturbing.
Watching guys cast 15 ft and snag with 30 lb test line. Quickly dragged onto the beach.
That was not fishing that i saw.
Ripper nation is going strong there. The disturbing part is all the sockeye being caught...
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According to my fishing partner who lives out there, the channel at the end of the road is now cut 6' to 8' deep. It no longer angles off up through the big island but runs all the way up to the corn field. apparently no way of even driving further up to cross over. He reports also that the sand/gravel ledge that guys were standing on the past few years has now mostly washed away and is pretty much just a shallow (and fast) part of the channel.
On my way back from the Columbia yesterday, I stopped by Pegleg to check it out.
Much to my Pathfinder's disappointment and my own, I can vouch for what Morty wrote above.
Vehicle access to Pegleg is history. It may be years before the river changes again and we get it back.
It might not happen in my lifetime.
Like Johnny Canuck says, there are guys wading across it, but it is risky (remember it took a life last year!). One of the two guys I was watching yesterday had water to almost his hips (he was a tall guy, BTW). Another guy (average height) was in the water up to his waist, and at one point he seemed to be struggling. They both managed it safely back though, but it was enough for me to see. Although I am 6'4" and of a large build, I will not bother with Pegleg.
As for launching a boat, your best bet would be a canoe or pontoon boat. It would be tough, if not impossible, to launch a conventional boat.
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Although I have had many a good BB experience at Peg Leg over the years, I shed no tears that it is no longer accessible.
On Sept 11th, 2011, during the height of the pink run, I observed 2 dead wild coho and one dead wild steelhead lying the shore. And this was just at 8:30 in the morning. I called RAPP and they responded.
Due to its accessiblilty and size, Peg Leg was a magnet for all manner of fisheries violations, intentional or not. Maybe this pink season, some of those wild fish will be able to survive their run upstream.
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Its way to easy to get a license...I wish it was harder and cost more money.
I would get more enjoyment out of fishing and I would probably catch more fish if these low life losers that just want to snag fish were not on the river!
Lets face it, if all you know how to do is bottom bounce with a long leader and a chunk of wool, you are not a sports fisher. If you can't identify your catch, you don't know how to get a fish to bite, and you don't want to learn, you shouldn't be allowed to fish and you should take up another hobby.
Its time things get cleaned up.
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I was there this weekend, my buddy and I took the fly rods out. We crossed the channel and I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, it barely went halfway up our shins so easily cross able in waders if you just walk down a bit IMO. It is however a long walk to any kind of fish able water where snaggers have not taken over. We managed 1 pink each an that was it but lots surfacing. Also by long walk I mean 45 minutes or more.
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I was there this weekend, my buddy and I took the fly rods out. We crossed the channel and I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, it barely went halfway up our shins so easily cross able in waders if you just walk down a bit IMO. It is however a long walk to any kind of fish able water where snaggers have not taken over. We managed 1 pink each an that was it but lots surfacing. Also by long walk I mean 45 minutes or more.
Not only ripper nation out in full force. Lots of sockeye getting caught. DFO needs to do a check there.
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Steely, you acknowledge that there are lots of snaggers there, we all have seen how ugly the place gets...why bother stating on the forum thats its accessible by wading? Don't you know there are plenty of snaggers and beeks on this forum! ;)
If someone is motivated enough, they'll go out there and find out themselves. Why say anything, doing so will only increase traffic there opposed to leaving the impression that its not wadable which could decrease traffic?!?
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Its way to easy to get a license...I wish it was harder and cost more money.
I would get more enjoyment out of fishing and I would probably catch more fish if these low life losers that just want to snag fish were not on the river!
Lets face it, if all you know how to do is bottom bounce with a long leader and a chunk of wool, you are not a sports fisher. If you can't identify your catch, you don't know how to get a fish to bite, and you don't want to learn, you shouldn't be allowed to fish and you should take up another hobby.
Its time things get cleaned up.
I was wondering if you still make and sell betties to these people that you seem to hate so much?
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nope, stopped doing that maybe 4-5 seasons ago. Sorry, you'll need to find them somewhere else now.
And just to be clear, I hate people who can't identify a fish and retain closed species, don't handle fish properly, intentionally snag, etc. I dislike fishers that are lazy and wont try and get a fish to bite and instead try and floss em.
I'll try and help educate fishers, share flies, bait, tips, etc but we all know that too many people are fishing now simply because flossing made "hooking" a fish easy. Fishers arent learning and deveoping (on average) anymore because flossing teaches the fisher nothing...even if the fish aren't on the bite, you will still hook em. ONce you have that mind set, its all down hill from there. expectations change, you lose respect for the quarry, etc.
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Its way to easy to get a license...I wish it was harder and cost more money.
I would get more enjoyment out of fishing and I would probably catch more fish if these low life losers that just want to snag fish were not on the river!
I would get more enjoyment out of fishing if it wasn't full of sanctimonious judgmental morons who somehow think they have more right to be on a river because they've been fishing it for 30 years.
Poachers have no regard for the rules. Raising the price of a license and or implementing a test will not change anything. Just look at the restrictions on handgun ownership... Do the criminals stop carrying guns just because the law says so???
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When you are sitting on a pool of coho that are biting the fly and some beak walks in with 5 inches of pencil lead, a 10 foot lead, and a 2/0 hook covered in red wool, and proceeds to pound the pool to oblivion, cast into the middle of the pool and let his gear sit there (making it impossible to drift), cast over top your fly line, and when you bring the gear in, you see he's also using bait (on the cap)...that was my morning this weekend!
Did I give him s*** YOU KNOW IT! luckily it started raining and he packed up and left. Bottom line, if lisences were $200-300 a year these fishers would for a large percentage, go away.
These are the same breed of "sports fishers" lining pegleg now.
PS Andrew - call me sanctimonious but at least I try and get fish to bite and I know my regs!
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This one heating up! Wheres my popcorn? :o
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When you are sitting on a pool of coho that are biting the fly and some beak walks in with 5 inches of pencil lead, a 10 foot lead, and a 2/0 hook covered in red wool, and proceeds to pound the pool to oblivion, cast into the middle of the pool and let his gear sit there (making it impossible to drift), cast over top your fly line, and when you bring the gear in, you see he's also using bait (on the cap)...that was my morning this weekend!
Well don't fish on the cap then! Seriously what do you expect from an urban fishery???
Having said that I fished an interior lake this weekend and had my peace destroyed by a load of d bags.... 6 drunk ppl in a 12 foot boat with a stereo so loud I could honestly hear it over a mile away. Thankfully I have a wealth of inner resources to draw upon and managed to have a good time despite their best efforts to ruin it ;D
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Its way to easy to get a license...I wish it was harder and cost more money.
I would get more enjoyment out of fishing and I would probably catch more fish if these low life losers that just want to snag fish were not on the river!
Lets face it, if all you know how to do is bottom bounce with a long leader and a chunk of wool, you are not a sports fisher. If you can't identify your catch, you don't know how to get a fish to bite, and you don't want to learn, you shouldn't be allowed to fish and you should take up another hobby.
Its time things get cleaned up.
I think we need a licensing course to be passed before people can get a license to fish. They must prove that they can identify all salmon species before they are given a license or before they can buy a salmon stamp. Enough BS from ignorant fishermen bonking the wrong species.
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nope, stopped doing that maybe 4-5 seasons ago. Sorry, you'll need to find them somewhere else now.
Too bad I wasn't looking to buy any, I was just sick of hearing you whine about BBers in the past yet you were making and selling BBing weights... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :'( :-X
When you are sitting on a pool of coho that are biting the fly and some beak walks in with 5 inches of pencil lead, a 10 foot lead, and a 2/0 hook covered in red wool, and proceeds to pound the pool to oblivion, cast into the middle of the pool and let his gear sit there (making it impossible to drift), cast over top your fly line, and when you bring the gear in, you see he's also using bait (on the cap)...that was my morning this weekend!
Did I give him s*** YOU KNOW IT! luckily it started raining and he packed up and left. Bottom line, if lisences were $200-300 a year these fishers would for a large percentage, go away.
These are the same breed of "sports fishers" lining pegleg now.
PS Andrew - call me sanctimonious but at least I try and get fish to bite and I know my regs!
Raising the prices will not help at all, more enforcement or some sort of training/test before being allowed to fish is going to help. I suppose raising the prices a bit to help cover the enforcement (angling needs its own enforcers other than CO's or own CO sector that way any money raised from licenses goes back into the sport) and training.
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There are snaggers everywhere and why did I say that it was accessible? Cause it's Peg Leg! It can't get much worse, plus all those snaggers aren't gonna put in the leg work to fish an area where they can't bottom bounce, cause there is no hole there. Don't treat it like its a secret spot, that's like somebody shushing me for talking about Scale bar. They are both gong shows and if people wanna fish there then go ahead. All I was stating is the side channel is wadeable.
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You guys will be really glad to hear that springs are opening tomorrow in the non-tidal fraser. Better not go out there or you could have a jammer with all the hate you got bubbling away in there. Try and relax more and enjoy your day. Who knows how many more you have.
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You guys will be really glad to hear that springs are opening tomorrow in the non-tidal fraser. Better not go out there or you could have a jammer with all the hate you got bubbling away in there. Try and relax more and enjoy your day. Who knows how many more you have.
Thompson steel are going to be getting the rock shampoo for sure now!
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Thompson steel are going to be getting the rock shampoo for sure now!
Not to mention wild coho as well...
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This forum is just full of beaks. Don't even have to hit the waters to get it.. great sports
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Wouldn't it be simple to just allow BB for when the Sockeye are open.
What would be the negative fall out to this.
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Wouldn't it be simple to just allow BB for when the Sockeye are open.
What would be the negative fall out to this.
The regs need to define BBing so then they can say no BBing. So far they ask for "selective" angling (which in reality BBing is not) however what does "selective" angling mean? I could BB and release sockeye, pinks and chinook all day until I kill a fish I would like. That would be "selective" angling as I selected which fish I wanted to keep.
See the problem with what you're asking for.
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Allowable
Casting Lures / jigs / Float fishing / flies and bar fishing would be permitted.
BB - only permitted in the window of open Sockeye season
This would stop snaggers / bottombouncers from flossing the Chilliwack for springs/coho year round
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Allowable
Casting Lures / jigs / Float fishing / flies and bar fishing would be permitted.
BB - only permitted in the window of open Sockeye season
This would stop snaggers / bottombouncers from flossing the Chilliwack for springs/coho year round
It sure would however until DFO defines BBing (Fraser style) and says that it is not allowed they can not regulate or control it.
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It's not bottom bouncing that needs to be inforced. It is leader length.
Many people, especially in the States, fish this way for steelhead. However their leader length is kept short.
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Sigh... It's not the bottom bouncing, it's not the leader length, it's not the size of the hook. It's the intent, which does not just influence the Fraser River fisheries but also other terminal fisheries across the province.
The definition of that intent is being reviewed and defined by Fisheries & Oceans Canada and other related parties, and hopefully in a couple of years (yes, that's how long it takes) from now it will be implemented in the freshwater fishing regulations.
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the rules will change due to the ignorance of others.
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Sigh... It's not the bottom bouncing, it's not the leader length, it's not the size of the hook. It's the intent, which does not just influence the Fraser River fisheries but also other terminal fisheries across the province.
The definition of that intent is being reviewed and defined by Fisheries & Oceans Canada and other related parties, and hopefully in a couple of years (yes, that's how long it takes) from now it will be implemented in the freshwater fishing regulations.
Next year. ;D ;D
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I was wondering if you still make and sell betties to these people that you seem to hate so much?
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If you can't identify your catch, you don't know how to get a fish to bite, and you don't want to learn, you shouldn't be allowed to fish and you should take up another hobby.
Its time things get cleaned up.
Here! here!
It's the intent ... The definition of that intent is being reviewed and defined
Hopefully they change it so that one can't simply say "I'm trying to lodge that bare hook in the fishes mouth."
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there should be a mandatory introductory seminar available in different main languages for those who are applying for fishing licence for the first time. guidelines should be made by fishery authorities and it could be performed by volunteers.
most of the mistakes or misconducts done by the new ones in the hobby are not intentional and are the results of lack of knowledge.
perhaps these fanatic haters could be helpful there.
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Classes for newbies probably would be a good idea. Heck, even an online class where you have to take a quiz at the end might get the information out there.
There are a lot of people that have been around a long time though who feel they are entitled to fish how they want and if they can get away with keeping everything they catch, they will. These people disgust me more because they know what they are doing is wrong but don't care.
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I would support an online course with a quiz at the end. And it doesn't have to just be for newbs , make everybody do it once...I'm sure there are a lot of people out there with bad habits who have been fishing for years. could be a proactive way to improve the fisheries.
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lol recreational fishing sectors seems to be the most fractured user group. I don't hear aborigines complain who each other fish let it be drift net, weir, dip net etc. nor do I hear commercial group finger pointing each other over purse net, long lining etc.
;D ;D
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The first time I saw the Peg leg fiasco, I vowed never to participate that gong show again
Not fishing & defiantly not sportsmanship
Glad the vehicle access is no more