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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: armytruck on August 31, 2013, 12:54:42 PM

Title: Boat Launch
Post by: armytruck on August 31, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
Not sure if there has been any previous post on this topic ?
I'm asking if anyone to see if there is any boat launches on the south side of the Fraser between say 176 th. and 200 th st. Many years ago I used the one at Brownsville however as some of you already know , it is  unaccessible . Thank you
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: rjs on August 31, 2013, 06:42:59 PM
you would think with all the billions there spending on the new perimeter road they could cough up a few $$$ to build 1 or 2 nice boat launches !!!

just my thought !
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: DionJL on August 31, 2013, 07:58:05 PM
you would think with all the billions there spending on the new perimeter road they could cough up a few $$$ to build 1 or 2 nice boat launches !!!

just my thought !

Boat launches don't bring anyone any money, unless they are private and pay per use. I don't disagree that the whole lower mainland could use more boat launches, but bringing up the SFPR isn't really relevant since it is going to be a major shipping route.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: rjs on August 31, 2013, 08:20:55 PM
Boat launches don't bring anyone any money, unless they are private and pay per use. I don't disagree that the whole lower mainland could use more boat launches, but bringing up the SFPR isn't really relevant since it is going to be a major shipping route.

but it right along the fraser which use  to have launches ! Dion.... ever been down on the Columbia in the States ! free launches every where !
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: firstlight on August 31, 2013, 10:08:22 PM
We are only pests in the way of others with our fishing.
The worlds most productive Salmon river with the less launches than a Washington ditch.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: liketofish on September 01, 2013, 12:30:03 AM
DFO and the government don't even care to provide some easy access or more parking at some of the popular fishing spots on the Fraser, let alone boat launches. These government people are not fishing friendly in my book. Yet they gladly take in your license money.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: buck on September 01, 2013, 12:49:02 PM
liketofish

 DFO is not in the business of constructing boat launches, and access to fishing holes on the river. Next you will want them to provide you with a boat and gear so you can use the launch.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2013, 12:53:24 PM
liketofish

 DFO is not in the business of constructing boat launches, and access to fishing holes on the river. Next you will want them to provide you with a boat and gear so you can use the launch.

Don't forget that they should also provide staff on site during the fishing season for fish gutting services.... ;D

No parking along the Fraser River for pink salmon fishing??? What? I want my license money back! ;D

::)
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: armytruck on September 01, 2013, 01:23:50 PM
Another Question ?
Has anyone been to the Maquabeek Park Launch on the north side of the new Port Mann bridge . I looked on google earth but the new bridge does not show being built there yet . By the looks of it , the new bridge would run almost right over top of the launch . Also who runs it ? It looks as though it is well maintained so I assume they have a fee for the launch . Has any one here used it ?
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Shawn6o4 on September 01, 2013, 02:18:32 PM
Not sure if its any help to you but maybe someone else. I live in south vancouver and there's a boat launch near victoria drive and kent but in 18 years of living beside it I've never seen anyone use it
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: liketofish on September 01, 2013, 03:36:06 PM
Don't forget that they should also provide staff on site during the fishing season for fish gutting services.... ;D

No parking along the Fraser River for pink salmon fishing??? What? I want my license money back! ;D

::)

DFO and the government here are not fishing friendly, Period. Perhaps DFO has no business in helping fishermen and you accept that here in Canada. Don't try to defend their abysmal record. Just look at the States where boat launches are everywhere and fishing piers in the ocean are not just provided but they are good and strong structures. Just look at those long fishing piers all over California. Over here in Canada, they charge you for fishing but provide very little service in return. They justify that as 'monopoly'. They are more interested in enforcing regulations than making it easier for fishermen here (which is not bad at all but not enough). If this is not a monopoly, they will lose out their customers (the license paying folks) in a hurry.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2013, 03:38:44 PM
As always, you have no idea how recreational fisheries are managed in this province.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: liketofish on September 01, 2013, 03:45:32 PM
I am not questioning their management of fishery. Everybody can come out with their own conclusion there. But I have much better idea to know that there is hardly any DFO or government initiated projects which help their customers getting easier access or parking facilities. I am nobody. But Ian Forbes has been the president of the Steelhead Society and when he says the government is lacking any initiative to build boat launches, he knows what he is talking. I don't think the government record is worth defending comparing what has been built for the fishing folks in the States.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2013, 03:49:05 PM
Nice. Keep up with the uneducated assumptions, you're making a difference.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: buck on September 01, 2013, 04:27:58 PM
liketofish

Washington State will be more than willing to sell you an angler licence which will entitle you to use all their boat launches.


Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: liketofish on September 01, 2013, 05:21:44 PM
Pointless to argue with people who think the government is all for the fishermen. It doesn't take any education to see the lack of any effort by government to help the fishermen to gain access to fishing spots. I am not saying DFO has not done anything for the fish. I am saying for the fishermen who they sell licenses to. Name any new facilities since 1990 that DFO or the government who take in and increase our license fees have built to help out the increasing number of fishermen to access fishing spots or more parking space? In the upper Fraser, I see the opposite. Parking spaces were there but taken away from fishermen without any consultation with the fishing public.  Most of the facilities in the lower Fraser or city shore line like small fishing piers are built by municipalities who I don't think get a share of the license fees.  It is a waste of time to defend the government. If some one wants to be a poster boy for them, go ahead. I rest my case and done for this thread.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: rjs on September 01, 2013, 06:00:28 PM
Surrey was suppose to build 1 somewhere near the new park they were gonna make ! any one heard more on that ?

I believe boat launches would be more municipal ! I believe in Vancouver if it was a bike lane boat launch it would happen over nite ! hehe
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
Yeah that's what I am, a poster boy for the government lol...

The sad thing is, there are plenty of uneducated individuals who choose not to be involved in making a difference will believe whatever nonsense posted in this thread.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: firstlight on September 01, 2013, 08:12:42 PM
So if there not getting involved it shouldn't matter if they read it or not.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: rjs on September 01, 2013, 09:51:05 PM
maybe we should all get together and petition all the municipalities to build boat launches... or get them included to major infrastructures.... there dredging already at surrey docks to get those coal ships in there already ! Maybe I would be more pro for these things if the built a launch  ? hhhm 
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: armytruck on September 02, 2013, 12:27:46 AM
I guess I'll go to the LuLu Island  :o , its surrounded by the Fraser River and boat launches . No toll can stop me now  ;D . BTW , good responce liketofish , I couldn't agree more  8)
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Damien on September 02, 2013, 09:16:50 AM
We launched at Bridgeview yesterday afternoon.  It sure was busy.  And somewhat dangerous as the container trucks just fly through there.  In order to back down the ramp, you have to pull forward, so your truck and trailer is perpendicular to a major shipping road...eeeks.

Not a place to launch for rookies.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: clarki on September 02, 2013, 09:50:33 AM
I'm with liketowhine, er...liketofish.  Pave paradise and put up a parking lot!

Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on September 02, 2013, 05:42:51 PM
I love the posts about entitlement. Its time to just accept it for what it is. Are there enough boat launches? No but seriously who pays for them? Should tax payers pay? Even the majority who will never use them?

The only way it would work is this way. Use a parking machine to dispense tickets, make numbered parking stalls, a sign from a towing company saying violators will be towed. Tow company responsible for taking care of offenders.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: armytruck on September 02, 2013, 10:58:15 PM
maybe we should all get together and petition all the municipalities to build boat launches... or get them included to major infrastructures.... there dredging already at surrey docks to get those coal ships in there already ! Maybe I would be more pro for these things if the built a launch  ? hhhm
Yes , like this one  ;D
http://www.richmond.ca/parksrec/about/rentals/facilities/boatlaunch.htm
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: TNAngler on September 03, 2013, 12:16:11 PM
Someone should just buy a little piece of land next to the river, put in a nice launch and charge people through the nose to launch there.

There were plenty of people that used to allow people to drive through their property to launch from an accessible bar but people use them as dumping grounds and too many owners were turned off it.

Down in the states there are a bunch of bars with access through someone's property that they have a gate that is locked.  If you are friends or you pay, you get a key to the lock.  If they find out you have made copies of the key though, they will change the lock and people will have to ask again for keys.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: arimaBOATER on September 03, 2013, 06:15:50 PM
Drove by the Bridgeview launch & anyone who uses it should get a metal pinned on their shirt.

( or a T shirt with words  " I launched my boat at Bridgeview "

Heard stories that the McDonald Boat Launch in years past had 1 km line ups !
What a gong show that must of been.

Seen that launch at a busy time with people wanting to launch & boaters at the dock waiting to trailer their boat.
Only to have a guy back down his big boat then stop to answer his cell phone & talk for 10 minutes  :o
Talk about people looking "mad as h ".

Ya hear of stories of a big marina & launch being built in Richmond only to have the vision evaporate it seems.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: rjs on September 03, 2013, 06:42:28 PM
bridge view marine  launch is a disaster ! but being just down the street it's all we pretty much use !
$10 for a launch u can barely use at low tide and no parking on the street cause of the construction! I'm sure it will be closed ounce they finish the road ! Oh... and people parking there cars in the spots to park ur vehicle and trailers, drives u nuts !
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Damien on September 03, 2013, 07:29:48 PM
Oh... and people parking there cars in the spots to park ur vehicle and trailers, drives u nuts !

this!
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Ian Forbes on September 03, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
It is not up to DFO to provide boat launch sites. It is up to Municipalities and the Provincial government who benefit from anglers and the money they bring to the province in many ways other than just license fees. The western USA states are so far ahead of BC that there is no comparison. I've been ranting about this for years. And, I'm not just talking about the huge Fraser River system. You can go all the way to the Fraser's headwaters and still hardly find any proper boat launch. Vancouver Island has zilch and none on any river. What few boat launch sites that we USED to have were taken away and locked up in provincial parks. You can go out in the boonies of Idaho potato country and find several paved boat launch sites on the Snake River. They also have flush toilets. On the Missouri River and Madison River in Montana there is a paved boat launch site at every bridge crossing. And, it is all private land. How about the popular tourist towns of Uclulet and Tofino. Both survive on tourism and angler trade. Both towns have only one tiny boat launch each and no room for parking. I guess the municipalities don't like outdoor stores and the trade they bring in.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Ian Forbes on September 03, 2013, 08:34:05 PM
Here is a typical boat launch site on the South Fork of the Snake River in Idaho. It is over 100 km from the nearest town of any consequence.

(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/album745/S_F_Snake_boat_launch.jpg)

Here is one on the Missouri... It has a huge parking lot and room for at least 50 campers and trailers.

(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/album168/MIssouri_floatila.jpg)

By contrast the popular Cowichan River does not have ONE boat launch site. Port Alberni, the so called fishing destination area has only 3 boat launch sites. The river has none, other than one rough, brushed out dirt track on the lower river with no parking.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: sumasriver on September 03, 2013, 08:58:05 PM
Boat launch at the pump station on the Sumas River has not been repaired/serviced for probably 40 yrs.
It is barely usable without getting stuck.

Welcome to BC.   

Had free parking this summer in Laguna Beach California but we pay 3 dollars per hour in whiterock.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Ian Forbes on September 03, 2013, 09:07:50 PM
Boat launch at the pump station on the Sumas River has not been repaired/serviced for probably 40 yrs.
It is barely usable without getting stuck.

Welcome to BC.   

Had free parking this summer in Laguna Beach California but we pay 3 dollars per hour in whiterock.

Yes, and wasn't Port Alberni voted the fishing town of Canada a year ago?
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Sandman on September 04, 2013, 12:53:39 AM
That being said, I easily located a boat launch on the lower Fraser with ample free parking, and two ramps, by doing a google search.  Unfortunately, it did not help me catch anything but more pike minnow.
Title: Re: Boat Launch
Post by: Damien on September 04, 2013, 12:56:24 AM
Had free parking this summer in Laguna Beach California but we pay 3 dollars per hour in whiterock.

The state of California has no fresh water left and is essentially bankrupt.