Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: smokedfish56 on August 26, 2013, 12:39:34 AM
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Hi, I'm new to the Lower Fraser river Pink Salmon fishery and would like to get some education on the gear needed. I have a 8"6 medium- heavy spinning rod that I use to target springs, Coho and Chum on the Vedder. Is that too big or will that work? I'm not to concerned about taking the fun out of fighting the fish but will a rod like that even detect the little bites? I've got 6lb coho on that rod which is similar in size but I'm not to familiar with the aggression or strength or the Pink salmon. I'm fishing in Fort Langley if that helps...
Thanks :)
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They're pretty aggressive. I don't think detecting bites is an issue. More a matter of how you can cast lures with the rod, and I'd say that's more an issue of line diameter. 8-12 lb line should be good.
If you're tossing out 2-2.5" buzz bombs it's not a problem, same with a 3/8 spoon...1/4 spoon or a spinner may not allow you to toss that far. Not sure about Fort Langely (never fished there) but pinks seem to swim close to shore anyway.
I'd say you're good.
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That rod will work. It will be a little tiring for you to keep tossing it because of the length and weight. Like the previous poster said tossing lighter lures is tougher. You can give it a try and see how you feel about it. Then go down to any store like Walmart, Canadian Tire, Army and Navy, or any tackle store and buy a cheap lighter rod and compare the difference. I don't think you'll ever go back to your heavier rod for this type of fishery.
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I was in the same boat as you back in 2011. It was my first run of pink salmon and I only had my dad's heavier gear to fish them with at the start. I soon bought a cheap 7.5 ft med spinning outfit from A&N and it was a much better experience. The biggest difference was casting distance and ease of casting for a couple hours. If I were you, I'd go buy a $35 set up at A&E or wherever, you'll have a much better day out on the water. ;)
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I'm fishing in Fort Langley if that helps...
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Correct me if im wrong but isnt the Fraser closed or are you just another one of the guy that doesn't give a rats @$# and says they're fish for trout .
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Maybe he is being proactive and being prepared for if they open the river. Although I'm sure most people appreciate a FRIENDLY reminder.
Use a spoon or spinner in the fraser. Much better than a buzz bomb (save those for beach fishing).
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I'm aware there is a ban on all Salmon fishing in the tidal and non tidal areas of the river, I'm preparing for what looks like to be a good pink salmon season.
thanks
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I'm fishing in Fort Langley if that helps...
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Correct me if im wrong but isnt the Fraser closed or are you just another one of the guy that doesn't give a rats @$# and says they're fish for trout .
Wow, that jump was so high I heard you land.. ::) ;D
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Hi, I'm new to the Lower Fraser river Pink Salmon fishery and would like to get some education on the gear needed. I have a 8"6 medium- heavy spinning rod that I use to target springs, Coho and Chum on the Vedder. Is that too big or will that work? I'm not to concerned about taking the fun out of fighting the fish but will a rod like that even detect the little bites? I've got 6lb coho on that rod which is similar in size but I'm not to familiar with the aggression or strength or the Pink salmon. I'm fishing in Fort Langley if that helps...
Thanks :)
What you already have is plenty good.
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I was in the same boat as you back in 2011. It was my first run of pink salmon and I only had my dad's heavier gear to fish them with at the start. I soon bought a cheap 7.5 ft med spinning outfit from A&N and it was a much better experience. The biggest difference was casting distance and ease of casting for a couple hours. If I were you, I'd go buy a $35 set up at A&E or wherever, you'll have a much better day out on the water. ;)
X2...still using my stuff from 2 years ago.
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Sorry to come across the way i did . I'm just so sick of all poaching and bending of the rules thats going on this year and DFO DOES NOTHING when you call.
I remember years ago when you could only keep coho and springs the amount of rule bending, poaching and sad fishing styles was so much less than it is today.
Anyway Smokedfish, good luck on yer quest for pinks when they open the river and again sorry to go off the way I did
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DFO DOES NOTHING when you call
That's because they are dealing with thishttp://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/More+nets+seized+Fisheries+patrols+enforce+Fraser+fishing/8831418/story.html (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/More+nets+seized+Fisheries+patrols+enforce+Fraser+fishing/8831418/story.html)
It's all about allocating limitted resources. If you get a call about a guy fishing illegally with a fishing rod, and then you observe another guy fishing illegally with a net, you allocate your limitted resources where they will have the most impact.
Until you yourself are involved in fisheries enforcement, and can understand better how and why decisions are made, I would humbly suggest that you cut them some slack.
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Really,you have no idea who or what i know !!!! The issues im talking about happend weeks before the info you posted but thanks for the help ether way.
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That's because they are dealing with thishttp://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/More+nets+seized+Fisheries+patrols+enforce+Fraser+fishing/8831418/story.html (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/More+nets+seized+Fisheries+patrols+enforce+Fraser+fishing/8831418/story.html)
Until you yourself are involved in fisheries enforcement, and can understand better how and why decisions are made, I would humbly suggest that you cut them some slack.
sometimes it's hard to cut them some slack when they've made poor management decisions in the past...back in 2010 they allowed a free for all during the commercial sockeye harvest, so much so that fish were rotting due to lack of refridgeration space...i've heard the argument of too many sockeye spawning and the lack of river bed...blah blah blah..but no one took the time to wonder if the bulk of the population may have been decimated because of the feast or famine mentality.
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you got heavy gear or coho and springs on the vedder but you dont know what gear for pinks?
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you got heavy gear or coho and springs on the vedder but you dont know what gear for pinks?
Solid post. Lots of information and help. I thank you for your contribution to this thread sir.
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That set-up should be useable for pinks. The one problem with a heavier rod though, is that it might be
easier to lose fish since pinks have soft mouths.
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I say a medium rod, even medium light rod is good for pinks. If your medium heavy rod is for spring, then it will be an over-kill for pinks. The fish are much smaller than springs. You may not lose fish but you lose the quality of fighting a smaller fish with lighter gear. It is also better for your arms if you spend a few hours casting.
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You can use a halibut stick to catch them, you can use a little trout rod to catch them, but the question is, will you catch as many as those who use an appropriate rod to catch them?
Most likely not.
Pink salmon bite very lightly quite often. Back in 2003's pink salmon season, I started feeling tiny taps numerous times during a retrieve prior to a committed bite. I thought it was a new behaviour, but then I realized that I had in fact switched to a lighter rod for that season, which is more sensitive. That rod was a Fenwick HMX rated 4 to 10lb. I used that rod from 2003 to 2011. The only problem with that rod is the lack of a backbone.
You can see that rod in action at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8awcP8T3ZhU
This year I started using a Shimano Clarus CSS90ML2B, rated 6 to 10lb. The tip is very sensitive as expected, but coupling with a stiffer bottom section, this rod casts much nicer and I look forward to using it not just for pink salmon, but also for coho salmon in the Tidal Fraser this October.
Why a heavy rod is no good?
- Too heavy to cast.
- Too difficult to cast a small lure out far.
- Too thick to detect lighter bites.
- Too stiff to feel the fight of the fish.
Invest on rods that you can enjoy using.
And Dan, you missed Clarki's point.
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I have 9' clarus CSC-90M-2 8-14 pound test line lure wt:1/4-3/4 fast action coupled with Curado 300 DSV .Is it too stiff rod for pinks ? Do you think this can hold onto spring if I hooked one?