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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on July 09, 2013, 12:46:59 PM
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Tuesday, July 2, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, July 2 to receive an update on the migration of Early Stuart sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
It is currently too early in the migration to update the Early Stuart sockeye total abundance. A more accurate assessment of Early Stuart run size should be available over the next several days. Some Early Summer-run sockeye (Chilliwack) have been identified in both marine and in-river samples.
On July 1st the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was approximately 7197 cms, which is approximately 12% above average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 1st was 16.6 0 C, which is 2.2 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, July 9, 2013. The first news release of the season is scheduled to be released on Friday, July 12, 2013.
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Tuesday, July 9, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, July 9 to receive an update on the migration of Early Stuart sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Early Stuart sockeye are currently tracking the pre-season forecast of abundance of 211,000 fish. Their 50% migration timing through Area 20 is consistent with the pre-season forecast of July 5. Assessments of Early Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available later in July after their peak migration through marine areas has occurred.
On July 8 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was approximately 6,280 cms, which is approximately 3% above average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 8 was 16.40C, which is 1.30C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, July 12, 2013.
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Friday, July 12, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, July 12 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
At the meeting today, the Fraser River Panel approved a run size estimate of 217,000 Early Stuart sockeye with 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 4. Assessments of Early Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available later in July after their peak migration through marine areas has occurred.
On July 11, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was approximately 5,180 cms, which is approximately 12% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 11 was 16.9 C, which is 1.5 C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, July 16, 2013.
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Friday, July 19, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, July 19 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
At the meeting today, the run size estimate of 217,000 Early Stuart sockeye was decreased to 180,000 fish. The 50% marine migration timing of Early Stuart sockeye through Area 20 is estimated to be July 2, which is three days earlier than the pre-season forecast of July 5. Recent stock identification analysis of Area 20 gillnet test fishery samples indicates contributions of approximately 10% Early Stuart, 60% Early Summer-run, and 30% Summer-run sockeye. Assessments of Early Summer-run sockeye abundance are ongoing. Chilliwack and Pitt sockeye currently comprise most of the Early Summer-run sockeye migrating through the marine test fishing areas. Assessments of Early Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available later in July after their peak migration through marine areas has occurred.
On July 18, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 4,510 cms, which is approximately 19% lower than average for this date.
The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 18 was 16.7 C, which is 0.7 C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, July 23, 2013.
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On July 18, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 4,510 cms, which is approximately 19% lower than average for this date.
The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 18 was 16.7 C, which is 0.7 C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
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Wow!. That decreasing discharge and a hot next 3-4 weeks in the interior could be serious trouble for far swimming sockeye and chinooks.
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, July 23 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
At the meeting today, the run size estimate of 180,000 Early Stuart sockeye was unchanged. Current assessments of Early Summer-run sockeye abundance are tracking near the forecast level of abundance, while their marine timing is likely earlier than forecast. A more accurate assessment of their abundance and timing should be available after additional information is collected on the later-timed stocks within this group. The migration of Summer-run sockeye through the marine assessment areas has been lower than expected thus far, unless their marine timing is considerably later than expected. Assessments of Summer-run sockeye abundance will not be available until early August.
On July 22, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 4,030 cms, which is approximately 23% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 22 was 19.1C, which is 2.4C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, July 26, 2013.
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013
On July 22, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 4,030 cms, which is approximately 23% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 22 was 19.1C, which is 2.4C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
19.1 C is getting serious for sockeye, especially when the Stuart and Nechako rivers will be warmer still.
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Dave, your on holidays. GO FISHING and stay off of the web.
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Back for a short while, then gone till late September. Seriously, expect a high psm on these early and probably some mid summer stocks like Horsefly and upper Adams. Hell, most likely the H will be closed to angling (and rightly so) due to warm water...
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Friday, July 26, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, July 26 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
The marine migration of Early Stuart sockeye is complete. At the meeting today, the run size estimate of 180,000 Early Stuart was unchanged. Preliminary assessments of Early Summer- run sockeye run size abundance are exceeding the p50 or mid-point forecast of 253,000 fish. A more accurate assessment of their abundance should be available next week after further data are collected. It is early in the marine migration of Summer-run sockeye through marine assessment areas. Current assessments suggest that their marine timing may be later than expected. In-season assessments of Summer-run sockeye abundance will not be available until after their expected peak migration period through Juan de Fuca Strait in early August. Catches of pink salmon in marine test fisheries have been at much higher levels than normal for this early in the season, although it is likely that most of these pink salmon are from non-Fraser River stocks. DNA analysis of pink salmon tissue samples from marine test and commercial fisheries will be conducted over the next several weeks to provide estimates of stock composition.
On July 25, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 4,040 cms, which is approximately 19% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 25 was 20.0C, which is 2.9C higher than average for this date. Sustained exposure of sockeye to Fraser River water temperatures in this range may slow their migration and cause elevated levels of pre-spawning mortality. Fraser River water temperatures are forecast to decrease to slightly below 18C over the next few days.
All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Monday, July 29, 2013.
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Monday, July 29, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Monday, July 29 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
The migration of Fraser River sockeye through the marine assessment areas has been modest over the past few days. At the meeting today the Panel approved a run size estimate of 400,000 Early Summer-run sockeye, while the run size estimate for Early Stuart sockeye of 180,000 fish was unchanged. The 50% marine timing of Early Summer-run sockeye through Area 20 is estimated to be July 21, which is two days earlier than expected. Current assessments suggest that the marine timing of Summer-run sockeye may be later than expected, unless their return abundance is lower than forecast. An assessment of how their abundance is tracking relative to the forecast should be available by next week.
On July 28, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 3,750 cms, which is approximately 21% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 28 was 19.7C, which is 2.3C higher than average for this date. Sustained exposure of sockeye to Fraser River water temperatures in this range may slow their migration and cause elevated levels of pre-spawning mortality.
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Open to drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Tuesday, July 30, 2013, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 3, 2013.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 2, 2013.
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Rod, so any guess on whether sockeye opening may occur this year?
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No.
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No.
As in no guess or no opening ? ;D
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Is the non-tidal portion of the Fraser (Mission to Chilliwack) still closed for all salmon?
I've checked the DFO fisheries notice site and understand that there is no retention of sockeye but, any word yet on a possible opening for Chinooks?
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Is the non-tidal portion of the Fraser (Mission to Chilliwack) still closed for all salmon?
I've checked the DFO fisheries notice site and understand that there is no retention of sockeye but, any word yet on a possible opening for Chinooks?
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=151827&ID=recreational
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thanks Rod
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Springs opened last Sat.
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Friday, August 2, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 2 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Marine area test fisheries indicate a flat migration of Fraser sockeye through Johnstone and Juan de Fuca Straits over the past week. At the meeting today, the Panel approved an increase in the run size estimate for Early Stuart sockeye from 180,000 to 182,000 fish. Their 50% marine timing through Area 20 is still estimated to be July 2. The run size estimate of 400,000 Early Summer-run sockeye was unchanged at the meeting today. Current assessments suggest that the abundance of Summer-run sockeye is either lower than forecast or their migration timing is later than expected. An in-season assessment of Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available by late next week. Recent stock identification analyses indicate that Late Shuswap sockeye comprise most of the Late-run sockeye currently migrating through the marine approach routes. The migration of pink salmon through the marine assessment areas has been steady over the past week. DNA analyses indicate that Fraser River pink salmon currently comprise a small proportion of the pink salmon presently being harvested in marine area test fisheries.
On August 1, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 3,390 cms, which is approximately 25% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 1 was 19.1C, which is 1.4C higher than average for this date.
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Saturday, August 3, 2013, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, August 7, 2013.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, August 6, 2013.
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Tuesday, August 6, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 6 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Although the migration of Fraser sockeye through the marine approach routes to the Fraser River has increased in recent days, it is still considerably lower than expected. This is primarily due to the lower than expected migration of Summer-run through the marine approach routes to-date. At the meeting today, the Panel approved an increase in the run size estimate for Early Summer-run sockeye from 400,000 to 452,000 fish. Their 50% migration timing through Area 20 is estimated to be July 22, which is one day earlier than expected. Current assessments suggest that the abundance of Summer-run sockeye is either lower than forecast or their migration timing is much later than expected. An in-season assessment of Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available by later this week. The proportion of Late-run sockeye migrating through the marine assessment areas has increased over recent days. DNA analyses continue to indicate that Fraser River pink salmon currently comprise a small proportion of the pink salmon presently being harvested in marine area test fisheries, which is consistent with the later marine timing of Fraser pinks relative to Washington and Canada South Coast (non-Fraser) pink salmon stocks.
On August 5, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 3,150 cms, which is approximately 26% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 5 was 20.5C, which is 2.8C higher than average for this date. Sustained exposure of sockeye to Fraser River water temperatures in this range may cause high pre-spawning mortality.
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS: TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, August 7, 2013, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 10, 2013.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 9, 2013.
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If the numbers are low, and the temps are high and water lower, close fishing for socks to everybody! All groups no fishing for socks!!!! Unbelievable miss management, good job dfo, spend 30 million on an inquiry and do nothing to follow up on recommendations to save the sockeye runs. This is really upsetting. Duh, where are all the fish going???? hmmm, 30 million dollars spent, when I could just tell you that maybe, just maybe they are being scooped up in gill nets when they are so close to finishing out their life cycle. Just leave it for at least one cycle for the lower run years, and I bet we would be pleasantly surprised. Okay give me the 30 million dollars and I will invest it in habitat restoration and hatchery funding. Unbefreakinlievable! DON"T NET THIS YEAR! First Nations, Commercial or sport fishermen floss snagging, be patient, next year should be awsome run, and if we left the other cycles, maybe they to would hit historical levels. BLAH!
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If the numbers are low, and the temps are high and water lower, close fishing for socks to everybody! All groups no fishing for socks!!!! Unbelievable miss management, good job dfo, spend 30 million on an inquiry and do nothing to follow up on recommendations to save the sockeye runs. This is really upsetting. Duh, where are all the fish going???? hmmm, 30 million dollars spent, when I could just tell you that maybe, just maybe they are being scooped up in gill nets when they are so close to finishing out their life cycle. Just leave it for at least one cycle for the lower run years, and I bet we would be pleasantly surprised. Okay give me the 30 million dollars and I will invest it in habitat restoration and hatchery funding. Unbefreakinlievable! DON"T NET THIS YEAR! First Nations, Commercial or sport fishermen floss snagging, be patient, next year should be awsome run, and if we left the other cycles, maybe they to would hit historical levels. BLAH!
Finally someone with a brain!!!! The entire thing needs to be shut down for minimum four years. We are nearly the point of it simply being too late. I can only hope some people get into the DFO that have half a brain when it comes to management.
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If the numbers are low, and the temps are high and water lower, close fishing for socks to everybody! All groups no fishing for socks!!!! Unbelievable miss management, good job dfo, spend 30 million on an inquiry and do nothing to follow up on recommendations to save the sockeye runs.
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to fishing.
No fishing in Canada. Can't reduce fishing much more than that.
One issue with management of Fraser sockeye is that the fishery isn't actually managed by DFO, it's managed by the Fraser River Panel of the Pacific Salmon Commission. While there is significant DFO representation there, there are also US interests, as well as stakeholder reps from all groups that want a crack at the fish (i.e. sporties, commies, FNs). This is fairly unique in BC, save for a couple of other boundary fisheries where management occurs bilaterally with the US.
All that being said, it boggles my mind that 4 years removed from the 2009 collapse the Panel hasn't been even more risk averse up to this point.
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CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to fishing.
No fishing in Canada. Can't reduce fishing much more than that.
One issue with management of Fraser sockeye is that the fishery isn't actually managed by DFO, it's managed by the Fraser River Panel of the Pacific Salmon Commission. While there is significant DFO representation there, there are also US interests, as well as stakeholder reps from all groups that want a crack at the fish (i.e. sporties, commies, FNs). This is fairly unique in BC, save for a couple of other boundary fisheries where management occurs bilaterally with the US.
All that being said, it boggles my mind that 4 years removed from the 2009 collapse the Panel hasn't been even more risk averse up to this point.
I have seen a whack of nets and no one stopping them- and yes I call every time
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I was on a bar on the fraser for the last 2 days, and I watched countless people flossing for sockeye and retaining them too...
Some would bbq it right away and others would claim to me its a pink....
There is too much ignorance on the river and little to nothing being done.
I'm actually shocked that there are so many people willing to poach.
also. when bar fishing. that counts as 1 rod. that's the legal limit. yet many many many people are barfishing and right beside that bottom bouncing. 2 guys 4 rods in the water....
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What I would do is call in the location where you saw the poaching going on. Hopefully DFO will send someone out to crack down on the poachers.
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What I would do is call in the location where you saw the poaching going on. Hopefully DFO will send someone out to crack down on the poachers.
Have called from the same spot for several years and not once have I seen a CO. Its no wonder so many meat heads are snagging for Chinook while retaining sockeye, there isn't anyone getting in any trouble for it.
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I was on a bar on the fraser for the last 2 days, and I watched countless people flossing for sockeye and retaining them too...
Some would bbq it right away and others would claim to me its a pink....
There is too much ignorance on the river and little to nothing being done.
I'm actually shocked that there are so many people willing to poach.
also. when bar fishing. that counts as 1 rod. that's the legal limit. yet many many many people are barfishing and right beside that bottom bouncing. 2 guys 4 rods in the water....
Very sad, this will only lead to more closures in the future. How I so enjoyed so many years on the Fraser River with family and friends bar fishing, those days are now gone.
Sadder still, be it a personal decision I at this time donot even want to go out there now and The Leaf Craft is sitting idle for the second year in a row. Glad I still have videos of many good times to relive those days.
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I am quite confused, and perhaps it is a dumb question but WHY haven't they ever simply said "NO BOTTOM BOUNCING" is that so hard? Or am I missing something?
Serious question..
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I am quite confused, and perhaps it is a dumb question but WHY haven't they ever simply said "NO BOTTOM BOUNCING" is that so hard? Or am I missing something?
Serious question..
Not wanting to start this debate over again and we are starting to hijack this thread but i thought I should answer your question. They, FOC have in the past, requested people fish to fish selectively when there is a conservation concern for sockeye or other stocks.
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Certainly don't want to fire that debate up either. I understand they requested people fish selectively, however that never stopped the crowds. I would think if they simply said no "bottom bouncing otherwise stiff fines will be issued" a large amount would obey...Wishful thinking I am sure.
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If anyone is interested in knowing how regulations are implemented by DFO for the non-tidal portion of the Fraser River, you're welcome to attend the Upper Fraser Valley Sport Fishing Advisory Committee meetings. The next one will most likely be around late October/early November.
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If anyone is interested in knowing how regulations are implemented by DFO for the non-tidal portion of the Fraser River, you're welcome to attend the Upper Fraser Valley Sport Fishing Advisory Committee meetings. The next one will most likely be around late October/early November.
Thanks, will it be posted on here as it gets closer to the time?
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I'll post the date when it becomes available and who to contact if you wish to attend.
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I was on a bar on the fraser for the last 2 days, and I watched countless people flossing for sockeye and retaining them too...
Some would bbq it right away and others would claim to me its a pink....
There is too much ignorance on the river and little to nothing being done.
I'm actually shocked that there are so many people willing to poach.
also. when bar fishing. that counts as 1 rod. that's the legal limit. yet many many many people are barfishing and right beside that bottom bouncing. 2 guys 4 rods in the water....
Can you name that bar here so that people including me will go there or call DFO all day until they show up to catch those retaining sockeyes? When you say 'countless', it is something DFO should know and should take action. If there is bbq going on there with the soc, they can't just run and CO can catch them. We need to do something to protect sockeye if the stock is too low for harvest by anybody including FN. Leave the fish alone. There are always pinks around. Go Furry Creek and you will have your limit of 4 fish.
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Friday, August 9, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 9 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
The passage of Fraser sockeye through the marine assessment areas has increased slightly since last week but is still far below pre-season expectations. At the meeting today, the run size estimate of 452,000 Early Summer-run sockeye was unchanged. Also at the meeting today, the Panel approved a run size estimate of 2,000,000 Summer-run sockeye, which is slightly over half of their median forecast level of abundance with an estimated 50% migration timing though Area 20 of August 8, which is five days later than expected. The low return of Summer-run sockeye thus far has severely constrained harvest opportunities that were expected during pre-season planning. DNA analyses of sockeye sampled from recent marine test fisheries indicates that Late Shuswap sockeye comprise most of the Late-run sockeye currently migrating through the marine approach routes. Run size assessments for Late-run sockeye will be conducted over the next few weeks. DNA analyses indicate that Fraser River pink salmon continue to comprise a small proportion of the pink salmon migrating through the marine approach routes. An in-season estimate of the abundance of Fraser River pink salmon will not be available until late August, which is when their peak migration through the assessment areas is expected to occur.
Migration conditions for sockeye in the Fraser River have worsened over the past week with water temperatures reaching record highs for the date on some days. On August 8, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 3,230 cms, which is approximately 20% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 8 was 21.3C, which is 3.5C higher than average for this date, and a record high temperature for this date. Sustained exposure of sockeye to Fraser River water temperatures in this range may cause severe stress and early mortality.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remains closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS: TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, August 7, 2013, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 10, 2013.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, August 13, 2013.
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Tuesday, August 13, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 13 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
The passage of Fraser sockeye through the marine assessment areas has increased over the past several days. At the meeting today, the run size estimate of 452,000 Early Summer-run sockeye was increased to 475,000 fish. The estimated 50% marine timing of Early Summer-run sockeye through Area 20 is still July 22. There was no change in the run size estimate of 2,000,000 Summer-run sockeye. Late-run sockeye migration through the marine approach routes has been building over recent days. A run size assessment for Late-run sockeye should be available by next week. The migration of Fraser River pink salmon through the marine assessment areas has been stronger than expected to-date. An in-season run size estimate for Fraser River pink salmon will not be available until later in August when their peak migration through the assessment areas is expected to occur.
On August 12, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 3,040 cms, which is approximately 21% lower than average for this date. Fraser River water temperatures have continued to be at record high levels over recent days. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 12 was 21.6 C, which is 3.8 C higher than average for this date. Sustained exposure of sockeye to Fraser River water temperatures in this range has been shown to cause severe stress and early mortality.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remains closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 16, 2013.
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Friday, August 16, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 16 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
The abundance of Fraser River sockeye migrating through the marine approach routes has been strong over the past week. At the meeting today, the Panel increased the run size estimate for Early Summer-run sockeye from 475,000 fish to 520,000 fish with 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 24, which is one day later than expected. The Panel also increased the run size estimate for Summer-run sockeye from 2,000,000 fish to 2,300,000 fish with 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 9, which is six days later than expected. An assessment of the abundance of Late-run sockeye should be available next week. Recent DNA analyses indicate that the proportion of Fraser River pink salmon migrating through the marine approach routes has been building over the past week. The migration of Fraser River pink salmon through the marine assessment areas is tracking abundance levels exceeding their median forecast run size of almost nine million fish, assuming their 50% migration timing through Area 20 is approximately August 28.
Daily Fraser River water temperatures have been at record high levels over the past week, which is expected to cause considerable en route and pre-spawning mortality of Fraser sockeye. On August 15, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 3,010 cms, which is approximately 17% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 15 was 21.0 C, which is 3.3 C higher than average for this date. Water temperatures are forecast to decrease over the next several days, which should improve migration conditions for Fraser sockeye.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remains closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, August 20, 2013.
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Tuesday, August 20, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 20 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
The abundance of Fraser River sockeye migrating through the marine approach routes has decreased over the past several days as the marine migration of Summer-run and Late-run sockeye declines. At the meeting today, the run size estimates of 520,000 Early Summer-run and 2,300,000 Summer-run sockeye were unchanged. Late-run sockeye abundance assessments of Late Shuswap/Portage stocks exceed their median forecast level while those for Birkenhead and Weaver stocks are tracking at the lower end of their forecast abundance levels. Assessments of Fraser River pink salmon abundance will be conducted over the next few weeks.
On August 19, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 2,890 cms, which is approximately 14% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 19 was 19.7C, which is 2.2C higher than average for this date. Water temperatures are forecast to decrease over the next several days, which will improve migration conditions for Fraser sockeye.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remains closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remains closed to fishing.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 23, 2013.
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There are some three year old sockeye in the runs. Just wondering if there will be any significant showing of three year old fish this year from that massive 2010 run?
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Do they put these notices out in other languages Rod ? The last two days coming home from work along river Road I have seen multiple Asian guys chucking spoons with salmon rods on the only pull out left to fish from.
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No.
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Maybe its something that needs to looked at ?
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Maybe its something that needs to looked at ?
So why don't you make a call and suggest that?
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DFO should have been called to report the guys fishing where no fishing is allowed.
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Might be a good idea to do the same for the enforcement officers as well, or at least make that a plus on the job description for hiring new officers, but having the announcements put out in different languages is a great idea.
There definitely needs to be more direct communication from fisheries to the Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean and Philippino communities that live in the lower mainland.
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I did call once but i guess you dont drive river rd during rush hour ? :)
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Well as much as DFO is trying to stop poaching, it doesn't appear to be working. My in-laws had sockeye delivered to their home for $10/fish.
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Gives new meaning to the cooking expression " Poached Salmon".
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Well as much as DFO is trying to stop poaching, it doesn't appear to be working. My in-laws had sockeye delivered to their home for $10/fish.
Your in-laws (and people like them) are a huge part of the problem. >:(
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Do they put these notices out in other languages Rod ? The last two days coming home from work along river Road I have seen multiple Asian guys chucking spoons with salmon rods on the only pull out left to fish from.
How do you know they don't speak English? Lots of Asian guys speak English in Canada.
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Do they put these notices out in other languages Rod ? The last two days coming home from work along river Road I have seen multiple Asian guys chucking spoons with salmon rods on the only pull out left to fish from.
well dfo should.... I can go into my bank and the atm gives me a whole bunch of languages choice to chose from !
oh... I forgot thou....Harper's cut backs !
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"It is your responsibility to ensure what species you are allowed
to retain and that the area you intend to fish is open. Updates are
available on the DFO Recreational Fishing website at:
www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/index-eng.htm" Straight from the book they should've grabbed/downloaded when they got their license. To translate it to different languages they would have to hire people to do it..Most translations of laws and legal matters to another language in Canada consists of "Please consult a translator to interupt the following". They need to hire more enforcement officers not translators. IMO
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yeah but they come to this country you have to learn the native language it is just ignorant if you dont.
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yeah but they come to this country you have to learn the native language it is just ignorant if you dont.
x100000
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This thread is about to become toxic- moderator please advise, should thread be closed since there is doubtfully going to be a sockeye openings?
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I assume that there has been some success with Sockeye making it to there natal streams as I have not witnessed any sockeye floaters in the recent weeks :P :o . Anyone else see any dead sockeye floating on by ??? .
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I assume that there has been some success with Sockeye making it to there natal streams as I have not witnessed any sockeye floaters in the recent weeks :P :o . Anyone else see any dead sockeye floating on by ??? .
Don't imagine too many people on the river to observe it since the closures.
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I assume that there has been some success with Sockeye making it to there natal streams as I have not witnessed any sockeye floaters in the recent weeks :P :o . Anyone else see any dead sockeye floating on by ??? .
I had two floaters go by last night.
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"I had two floaters go by last night."
........... and any dead Sockeye afterwards? ;D ;D
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Friday, August 23, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 23 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
The abundance of Fraser River sockeye migrating through Johnstone and Juan de Fuca Straits has been steady over the past week. At the meeting today, the run size estimates of 520,000 Early Summer-run and 2,300,000 Summer-run sockeye were unchanged. Current assessments suggest that the abundance of Late-run sockeye is below their median forecast level of abundance; however, there is still significant uncertainty in the Late-run sockeye abundance assessments. A more accurate assessment of their abundance should be available next week. At the meeting today, the Panel approved a run size estimate of 10,000,000 Fraser River pink salmon.
On August 22, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 2,900 cms, which is approximately 10% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 22 was 18.9C, which is 1.6C higher than average for this date. Water temperatures are forecast to decrease further over the next several days, which will improve migration conditions for Fraser sockeye.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remains closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Open to drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 24, 2013 to 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday August 28, 2013.
Areas 6,7 and 7A: Open to net fishing from 5:00 a.m. Sunday, August 25 through 9:00 a.m. Tuesday, August 27, 2013, in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Area 7: Open to reefnets with non-retention of sockeye salmon from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Saturday, August 24, 2013 and Sunday, August 25, 2013.
Areas 7 and 7A: Open to purse seines with non-retention of sockeye salmon from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Tuesday, August 27, 2013, in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia.
Areas 7 and 7A: Open to gillnets with non-retention of sockeye salmon from 8:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. (midnight) Tuesday, August 27, 2013, in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, August 27, 2013.
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Who are they kidding? Those nets are going to kill many sockeye as by catch or if not killed and thrown back after some delay, they won't make it back to spawning ground. All these openings and yet DFO shuts down the Fraser from fishing pinks & springs by anglers to try to avoid some incidental hooking of sockeye with much lower mortality rate than the nets. SMH.
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Who are they kidding? Those nets are going to kill many sockeye as by catch or if not killed and thrown back after some delay, they won't make it back to spawning ground. All these openings and yet DFO shuts down the Fraser from fishing pinks & springs by anglers to try to avoid some incidental hooking of sockeye with much lower mortality rate than the nets. SMH.
I think all those openings u r reading are in the USA !!!
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Read the history of the blockage of the Fraser, I believe in 1913. The salmon that are coming back are not fit to eat due to radiation from the Fukushima disaster in Japan. Read about what is happening there. They are posioning the Pacific ocean.
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It makes me sick that nothing is being done about that ^^ :'(
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I think all those openings u r reading are in the USA !!!
The end result is the same - dead sockeye. That is why we ask the Alaskans to stop fishing Skeener sockeye up north. Are these openings controlled by DFO? Is so, why do that to risk more sockeye fatality
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What it comes down to is funding. If they could they would but they can't so they are trying to help what is needed most and try to answer calls about bottom bouncers ::)...
Convince your federal government to do something and they will...
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It makes me sick that nothing is being done about that ^^ :'(
omg.... The end is near!!!!!!
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Area 20 seine is hauling in a massive amount of pinks . 10,000 pinks yesterday , bigger numbers than 2011 yet they are still forcasting only 10 million fish . I think they are downsizing the run because they will let the commercial guys go for a huge haul this year .
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I thought I'd give a first hand update as I am sitting on the bank of the river right now in the delta area. I have seen a pink rise at least every 5 mins and had one bigger school come through in the hour I've been here. I don't have a rod for obvious reasons. Have seen a couple of sockeye as well. I have also seen 2 Dfo boats cruise by and a couple check the fisherman on foot who are casting spoons in the area so they are out in full force which is great to see! Can't wait for it to open, tight lines to all.
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I was in Steveston Saturday evening and the river was high slack and perfectly calm.
Not a Pink showing though.
A few sockeye further out and there was a seal around but it didn't look to be fishing either.
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omg.... The end is near!!!!!!
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Lol Armageddon is here for sure Rodney...
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Was at Derby Reach last night and didn't see anything surface.
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I live on the middle arm and have seen lots of pinks rising in the north arm on my way out to the chuck.
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14,000 pinks in yesterdays seine . Dfo gonna be upgrading that run atleast double i think . Over 20 million pinks for sure
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Tuesday, August 27, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met today to review assessment data on Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon, discuss fisheries management plans for the harvest of pink salmon and review environmental conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
At the meeting today, the run size estimate of 520,000 Early Summer-run sockeye was increased to 550,000 fish with 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 25, which is two days later than expected. The run size estimate of Summer-run sockeye was increased from 2,300,000 to 2,400,000 fish, with 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 10, which is seven days later than expected. The Panel also adopted a run size estimate of 450,000 Late-run sockeye, with 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 13, which is one day later than expected. The run size estimate for Fraser River pink salmon was increased from 10,000,000 to 14,000,000 fish, with 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 25, which is three days earlier than average.
On August 26, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 2,500 cms, which is approximately 15% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 26 was 18.6 C, which is 1.6 C higher than average for this date. Water temperatures are forecast to decrease further over the next several days, which will improve migration conditions for Fraser sockeye.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remains closed to fishing.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday August 28, 2013 to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Friday August 30, 2013. Sockeye may be retained for ceremonial and subsistence purposes only.
Areas 6,7 and 7A: Open for net fishing from 5:00 a.m. Wednesday, August 28 through 9:00 a.m. Friday, August 30, 2013 in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia. Purse seines must release all sockeye.
Gillnets may retain sockeye for ceremonial and subsistence purposes only.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Area 7: Open to reefnets with non-retention of sockeye from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Thursday, August 29, 2013 and Friday, August 30, 2013.
Areas 7 and 7A: Open to purse seines with non-retention of sockeye from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Friday, August 30, 2013 in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia.
Areas 7 and 7A: Open to gillnets with non-retention of sockeye from 8:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. (midnight) Friday, August 30, 2013 in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Thursday, August 29, 2013.
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Thursday, August 29, 2013
The Fraser River Panel met today to review assessment data on Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon, discuss fisheries management plans for the harvest of pink salmon and review environmental conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
At the meeting today, the run size estimates of 550,000 Early Summer-run and 2,400,000 Summer-run sockeye were unchanged. The run size estimate of Late-run sockeye was increased from 450,000 to 500,000 fish, with 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 15, which is three days later than expected. At the meeting today the run size estimate of Fraser River pink salmon was increased from 14,000,000 to 16,000,000 fish with 50% marine timing of August 29, which is one day later than average.
On August 28, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was 2,410 cms, which is approximately 15% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 28 was 18.6C, which is 1.8C higher than average for this date.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Areas 18-1, 18-4, and 18-11 and Areas 29-6, 29-7 and 29-9: Open to Area B seine assessment (2 vessels) ITQ fishery for pink salmon with non-retention of sockeye salmon 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. daily on Sunday, September 1, 2013 until further notice. (Please refer to DFO Fishery Notice for further details).
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon) Friday, August 30, 2013 to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, September 4, 2013. Sockeye may be retained for ceremonial and subsistence purposes only.
Areas 6,7 and 7A: Open for net fishing from 5:00 a.m. Saturday, August 31 through 9:00 a.m. Monday, September 2, 2013, and from 5:00 a.m. Tuesday, September 3, 2013 through 9:00 a.m. Wednesday, September 4, 2013 in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia. Sockeye may be retained for ceremonial and subsistence purposes only.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Area 7: Open to reefnets with non-retention of sockeye salmon from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. daily on Saturday, August 31, 2013, Sunday, September 1, 2013, Monday, September 2, 2013 and Tuesday, September 3, 2013.
Area 7 and 7A: Open to purse seines with non-retention of sockeye salmon from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday, September 2, 2013 in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia.
Area 7 and 7A: Open to gillnets with non-retention of sockeye salmon from 8:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. (midnight) Monday, September 2, 2013 in the area southerly and easterly of a straight line drawn from Iwersen’s dock on Point Roberts in the State of Washington to the Georgina Point Light at the entrance to Active Pass in the Province of British Columbia.
(Note: U. S. All Citizen fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, September 3, 2013.
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OK - thanks for the update Rod.
So does this mean that the Tidal Portion of the Fraser River is open to fishing for Pink Salmon as of September 1st?
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^ I second this
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There was no mention of the tidal portion of the fraser river being open for recreational pink salmon fishing; so I do not know where you are assuming it is open Sept 1st. The next meeting is Sept 3rd doesn't appear as though it will be open any earlier than that.
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http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/
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Your link points to nothing. Anybody else can see what that web link says?
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Your link points to nothing. Anybody else can see what that web link says?
It says pinks are indeed open as of Friday.
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=153536&ID=all (http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=153536&ID=all)
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And the Non-Tidal Fraser is open now too of course, and coho are off limits until October 5th.
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=153575&ID=all (http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=153575&ID=all)
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Is chinook open too? The notice seems ambiguous.
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And the Non-Tidal Fraser is open now too to all but Sockeye of course, and coho are off limits until October 5th.
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=153575&ID=all (http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=153575&ID=all)
Retention is currently only open for pink and chum salmon in the non-tidal portion of the Fraser River.
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Is chinook open too? The notice seems ambiguous.
The supplement makes it clear. Just pink and chum for now.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html)