Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Johnny Canuck on March 05, 2013, 04:19:33 PM
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In another thread (which then got edited lol) I posted a vis report which a couple members then called BS. Now I wonder how you other members measure the vis? Do you consider the vis to be as much as you can see clearly into the water? Or as far as you can differentiate one rock from another (say a lighter colored rock from the darker ones)?
I myself use the one rock from the others.
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I use my lure/fly of choice.
For example if I'm fishing bright pink then I need to be able to see it distinctly separate from the water sediment, then pull it up and estimate the length of line.
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I use my lure/fly of choice.
For example if I'm fishing bright pink then I need to be able to see it distinctly separate from the water sediment, then pull it up and estimate the length of line.
So just like being able to see one colored rock from the others. I'm assuming you're not expecting to be seeing individual strands feathers on your fly lol.
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I look at my wading boot. once I can just barely no longer see my laces it's that distance to the surface that I call the vis.
I don't really understand what you mean about telling one rock from another. if you can see any rock then that depth is within the range of visibility in my opinion.
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In another thread (which then got edited lol) I posted a vis report which a couple members then called BS.
Hey Johnny, do you really care about those negative comment from those 2 members.
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I look at my wading boot. once I can just barely no longer see my laces it's that distance to the surface that I call the vis.
I don't really understand what you mean about telling one rock from another. if you can see any rock then that depth is within the range of visibility in my opinion.
Well looking at your wading boot would be much like looking at a specific rock that is a different color than the rest. Being able to see your laces (if you mean each individual lace versus the color difference against your boot) would be what I mean by seeing clearly into the water much like seeing individual pebbles or grains of sand.
Hey Johnny, do you really care about those negative comment from those 2 members.
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Don't really care just wondering which technique people use to judge water vis. I'm looking forward to hearing of those who say when they can no longer see their bare hook is what they use to judge water vis.
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If you ask 5 people to show you 24" with there hands apart, you'd probably get 5 different answers. I myself use whatever lure/bait/fly I'm using as a guide. When I can't make it out anymore thats the vis I go with.
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I usually use my fly/bait, or if Im wading in the water I use my boots.
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70 years of experience. ;D ;D ;D
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just knowing the run i'm fishing and the contour of the rocks and their sizes during low water condition.
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I use the bottom. If I can see it, then it is "visible," and then depth at which I can no longer see it is the "visibility" depth. I gauge this depth by either standing in it, or by sticking my wading stick or rod tip in it. If you want to get serious you can make a turbidity tube or a simple weighted secchi disc (high contrast black and white design) with a calibrated line. When you can no longer distinguish the black and white design, to have reached the visibility depth (secchi depth). Johnny's different coloured pebbles serves the same purpose.
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Amateurs. I use a Secchi disk.
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I just call Freds. What ever they tell me it's the law! ;D ;D
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I use a turbidity meter to measure the nephelometric turbidity units and then correlate that to visible distance, correcting for refraction of light at the air-water interface. :D
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I use a turbidity meter to measure the nephelometric turbidity units and then correlate that to visible distance, correcting for refraction of light at the air-water interface. :D
Ya..... What he said. :o
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I use a turbidity meter to measure the nephelometric turbidity units and then correlate that to visible distance, correcting for refraction of light at the air-water interface. :D
You neglected to take into consideration the slide factor coupled with flow of water
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I just call Freds. What ever they tell me it's the law! ;D ;D
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I use a turbidity meter to measure the nephelometric turbidity units and then correlate that to visible distance, correcting for refraction of light at the air-water interface. :D
You neglected to take into consideration the slide factor coupled with flow of water
What about the temperature of the water as water is most dense at 4 degrees, this MUST affect the visibility and refraction of the light... no?
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You neglected to take into consideration the slide factor coupled with flow of water
Negligible. I'm an engineer not a scientist. LOL
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30yrs fishing the Vedd. ;) Started when alot of you on this board werent even a twinkle in your Daddys eye. Things sure have changed over the yrs. Most of the great rods are no longer with us. :'(
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Most of the great rods are no longer with us.
True, and they would if they could shudder at what this system has become.
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True, and they would if they could shudder at what this system has become.
Amen to that brother. No respect out there anymore. The river and its fish haven't changed, unfortunately the same cant be said for the people. All this talk about how long a guys leader is ridiculous. This nonsense simply did not exist back in the day.No Internet, only word of mouth was the way info was passed along. My father passed the sport down to me by the "hands on approach". Respect and ethics was ingrained into everyone. Ah,enough said...
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Amen to that brother. No respect out there anymore. The river and its fish haven't changed, unfortunately the same cant be said for the people. All this talk about how long a guys leader is ridiculous. This nonsense simply did not exist back in the day.No Internet, only word of mouth was the way info was passed along. My father passed the sport down to me by the "hands on approach". Respect and ethics was ingrained into everyone. Ah,enough said...
Right but wrong at the same time. There is respect out there, the ched isn't the place to find it though (or not in the meat hole spots anyways) usually due to the numbers of anglers and limited space these days. The fish and river have changed, numbers are WAY different than in the 80's when the hatchery was built. The reason there is so much "nonsense" now is due to the numbers of anglers on the river. More anglers equals more chances of encountering "nonsense". In regards to angler numbers a day mid week during steelhead season now a days is the way salmon season used to be back in the day. Your statement of saying the river hasn't changed is just silly, rivers are continuously changing every second of every day
The internet is what it is, it's never going away so make it a tool to teach the right ways rather than hinder the sport.
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you guys are all pussies. I dunk my bloody head in and see how many guides of my fishing rod i can see. I then measure that distance :P lol
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you guys are all pussies. I dunk my bloody head in and see how many guides of my fishing rod i can see. I then measure that distance :P lol
You must be a fly fisherman ;D :o
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I always judge clarity based on how far down I can my see my brightest Chartreuse jig with polaroid glasses on, which is often much better clarity than others think.
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I always judge clarity based on how far down I can my see my brightest Chartreuse jig with polaroid glasses on, which is often much better clarity than others think.
I do this as well but with a worm.
in regards to the leader comments I was more confused rather than upset with leaders over 2ft.but hey whatever works right (legit hook ups that is ;))
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The best way to check clarity is to hold my rod by the tip and put it into the fastest flowing section of the river I'm fishing. When I can't see the shine from my reel, then that's the depth of clarity. Works best with really silty water! :o ;D
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Fish can see better in the water then we think, Just need to put it where you think they may be and the fish will do the rest.
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It's like Chris said 70 years of experience
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There's a lot less access to the vedder now , compared to the 60s , when I started fishing it. You use to be able to drive down the both sides of the river. Now due to floods that have washed out roads , and locked gates etc. access is more limited, putting more pressure on certain areas. Myself I don't fish where there's a lot of fishermen anyway . There's still areas on the vedder where there's not that many fishermen.
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Sorry my previous post was on different subject.