Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: chris gadsden on February 20, 2013, 08:18:41 PM
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http://issuu.com/steelhead-salmon-society/docs/legacy313
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An impressive site, big bucks spent I suppose. Who or what agency funded that Chris?
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This site is a venture backed by Sunstone Capital, a European investment bank. It apparently hosts the output of any group that wants to put material out; the polished look has to do with the platform, not the groups flogging their "products". It appears to be similar to those old self-publishing houses known as the vanity press that were around in the days of books, the kind of place where you pay to have your stuff published. Samples of some of the other content suppliers can be seen here: http://issuu.com/publications (http://issuu.com/publications)
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Thanks absolon.
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In the spirit of Chris's title, here's another nice little bit of fish farm news. Given that BC farmed salmon was served at Obama's inauguration, the US Open Tennis Championship and now the Kentucky Derby, it would seem that the farmed salmon boycott isn't going too well.
http://www.ctvvancouverisland.ca/2013/02/island-fish-farm-gains-positive-international-attention/ (http://www.ctvvancouverisland.ca/2013/02/island-fish-farm-gains-positive-international-attention/)
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Given that BC farmed salmon was served at Obama's inauguration, the US Open Tennis Championship and now the Kentucky Derby, it would seem that the farmed salmon boycott isn't going too well.
That's the equivalent of me saying "It rained today, it seems we are going to have a flood" ;D :D
I wasn't aware that anyone was even organizing a feedlot salmon boycott in the US. ???
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Well that would be typical anti-farm strategy. Don't go after the market where most of the product is sold and where a boycott might actually have a noticeable effect on demand. Far better to spend all your efforts on a small market segment where a boycott won't reduce demand enough for the farms to notice.
Of course, we all know the reason for that. The campaign here isn't about really reducing demand. It's about twisting knickers and how that causes those strangled scrotums to open their wallets to fund the cause.
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In the spirit of Chris's title, here's another nice little bit of fish farm news. Given that BC farmed salmon was served at Obama's inauguration, the US Open Tennis Championship and now the Kentucky Derby, it would seem that the farmed salmon boycott isn't going too well.
http://www.ctvvancouverisland.ca/2013/02/island-fish-farm-gains-positive-international-attention/ (http://www.ctvvancouverisland.ca/2013/02/island-fish-farm-gains-positive-international-attention/)
Always wanted to go to the Kentucky Derby. ;D ;D ;D
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What's holding you back?
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Well that would be typical anti-farm strategy. Don't go after the market where most of the product is sold and where a boycott might actually have a noticeable effect on demand. Far better to spend all your efforts on a small market segment where a boycott won't reduce demand enough for the farms to notice.
Careful what you wish for..... The anti feedlot salmon campaign has obviously been very effective in BC. However don't mistake the intent of the campaign.... it's all about making people aware of the risks associated with putting feedlots in our oceans.
While we should care what sort of crap we eat, we are most concerned with the crap the feedlots are dropping in our oceans and the resulting damage to the wild salmon.
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Even if it were true that the boycott was having any effect on local consumption (and you would need to produce some evidence beyond your personal speculations to confirm that), the fact is the local market for local farmed salmon is a very small component of the overall market the farms supply and attempts to reduce that by boycott have negligible effects on total demand for the farm's products. Anyone who applied even a minimum of logic to the situation would realize that and would realize that it is a wasted effort.
On the other hand, keeping your panties wadded increases the likelihood that you will donate to Morton and her vendetta against farms so it is far more profitable for her to focus on tilting at this windmill than it would be to actually try to organize a boycott in the market that consumes most of the product.
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You really need some new material af :D And please explain how the recent protests have, in your words, been very effective? I was in the Chilliwack Superstore this morning and people are still buying farmed salmon. People want fresh, not frozen fish and farmed salmon provide that.
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Maybe this will help us better understand AF:
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/02/18/a-scientific-look-at-the-conspiracy-minded/ (http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/02/18/a-scientific-look-at-the-conspiracy-minded/)
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And some more news:
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/02/21/hutterite-salmon-farm-fails/ (http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/02/21/hutterite-salmon-farm-fails/)
http://actforaquaculture.ca/reflect/we-wouldnt-eat-sick-fish-either-and-were-not-no-one-is/ (http://actforaquaculture.ca/reflect/we-wouldnt-eat-sick-fish-either-and-were-not-no-one-is/)
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http://halifax.mediacoop.ca/story/no-more-environmental-impact-assessments-salmon-fa/16461
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You really need some new material af :D And please explain how the recent protests have, in your words, been very effective? I was in the Chilliwack Superstore this morning and people are still buying farmed salmon. People want fresh, not frozen fish and farmed salmon provide that.
I don't think we have an expectation that the protests will be 100% effective. The lack of knowledge about feedlot salmon is prevalent. Every person that learns a little more about the feedlots will at least think about it before they reach for a slab of that stuff..... many will buy something else.
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Maybe this will help us better understand AF:
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/02/18/a-scientific-look-at-the-conspiracy-minded/ (http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/02/18/a-scientific-look-at-the-conspiracy-minded/)
You need to find yourself a fresh source of "science".
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And some more news:
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/02/21/hutterite-salmon-farm-fails/ (http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/02/21/hutterite-salmon-farm-fails/)
http://actforaquaculture.ca/reflect/we-wouldnt-eat-sick-fish-either-and-were-not-no-one-is/ (http://actforaquaculture.ca/reflect/we-wouldnt-eat-sick-fish-either-and-were-not-no-one-is/)
From one of the articles...... "No one is trying to sell you “sick” fish. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency does not allow sick fish into our food supply."
If the ISA infected fish are not "sick" why is there a 100% chance of them dying before they reach maturity? Why do they need to be "quarantined"?
Talk about spin.....
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http://metronews.ca/news/vancouver/579692/colourful-and-noisy-fish-farm-protesters-march-on-dfo-officers/
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http://video.cheknews.ca/services/player/bcpid1530274581001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAA4mHNTzE~,ejlzBnGUUKauc2zn_kmUm9i-CLdp2qnb&bctid=2198317185001
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http://www.fishfarmingxpert.com/index.php?page_id=76&article_id=98189 (http://www.fishfarmingxpert.com/index.php?page_id=76&article_id=98189)
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Sampling of steelhead took place today on the Vedder. Had one sampled this morning, hatchery fish of course.
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Did you witness the sampling procedure? If so can you tell us a bit about their protocols .. ie. dry ice, perhaps liquid nitrogen or perhaps just some bottles with liquid ... anything?
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Did you witness the sampling procedure? If so can you tell us a bit about their protocols .. ie. dry ice, perhaps liquid nitrogen or perhaps just some bottles with liquid ... anything?
No, but I am sure they know how to do it so we get good science. :D ;D
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Yes, of course ;)
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http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/alexandra_morton/2013/03/dear-marine-harvest-dont.html
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http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/ID/2331135651/
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http://www.thefishsite.com/newsletter/315/thefishsite-newsletter-12-march-2013
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/environment/fish-farm-at-centre-of-mystery-illness-was-warned-over-safety-by-us-agency.19262934
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https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/CleanUpSalmonFarming
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http://issuu.com/steelhead-salmon-society/docs/legacy413
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Interesting comments below the story.
http://www.cknw.com/news/vancouver/story.aspx/story.aspx?ID=1915162
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Hope Obama didn't get food poisoning from eating farmed salmon. Should have sent him some real b.c. Salmon.
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Hope Obama didn't get food poisoning from eating farmed salmon. Should have sent him some real b.c. Salmon.
Any particular stock of wild BC salmon you think he should have consumed norton? chinook, maybe? ... name me one wild BC chinook stock that has the numbers to be harvested for any reason other than greed and upcountry FN societal needs; sockeye perhaps ... hmmm, well a few, like the Shuswap and Quesnel spawning conglomerate have enough for a small commercial fishery, some years.
Coho? nuff said. We could send pinks and chum though - is that what you had in mind?
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Hope Obama didn't get food poisoning from eating farmed salmon. Should have sent him some real b.c. Salmon.
He would be just fine if he was served the Washington state atlantic feedlot salmon. Just a couple miles too south of our back yard for us to worry about I guess.
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http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/alexandra_morton/
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Spin and of course comments are disabled for this video. ::)
http://youtu.be/bDq7aC_J2RI
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Spin and of course comments are disabled for this video. ::)
http://youtu.be/bDq7aC_J2RI
Again, kudos Chris. One of the female researchers on the DFO vessel in that video recently worked at the Chilliwack R hatchery but wisely decided to advance her career and moved to the new Aquaculture division.
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Again, kudos Chris. One of the female researchers on the DFO vessel in that video recently worked at the Chilliwack R hatchery but wisely decided to advance her career and moved to the new Aquaculture division.
Most likely a good move as the government has lots of money in their budget for this but very little for habitat protection and doing more for wild salmon. :(