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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: dave c on February 18, 2013, 09:40:53 PM
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Saw something interesting on the Vedder the other day. Watched a guy fighting a nice steelhead. As it got close to shore we could tell it was a hatchery. Nice fish, about a 10 lb buck. Just as the fellow was beaching it, the hook comes out of its mouth. Now the fish is flopping toward the river (only a couple inches away) the guy drops his gear and literally tackles the fish. He then proceeds to bonk it. Now I know he had the fish hooked legally in the mouth, but for some reason him tackling it and bonking it didn't seem right. Does this mean, when fish are stacked, lets say at end of coho season .... one can stand very still and tail a fish in a pool and bonk it. Just doesn't seem right. I would think that you should have to gain possession of the fish while the hook is still in its mouth. Any Thoughts????????????????
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are u effing kidding?! I hope so. The guy obviously did not mind losing all dignity for his fish which sure is not a crime. I remember my brother doin that for me our first season fishing and it was a pink salmon :P
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i am not kidding :-\
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I highly doubt a CO would ticket you if he saw you tackle a fish that you lost.
It is much different than standing in the river and catching fish by hand.
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I highly doubt a CO would ticket you if he saw you tackle a fish that you lost.
It is much different than standing in the river and catching fish by hand.
Agreed, didn't feel right though. Guess I was pulling for the buck. Going for the underdog (Leafs fan .... its in our blood) :)
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Agreed, didn't feel right though. Guess I was pulling for the buck. Going for the underdog (Leafs fan .... its in our blood) :)
C'mon even the Leafs have developed a bit more of killer instinct this year.... and fishing is also about the meat. ;D
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I catch most my fish by hand. First thing in the morning is the best as they sit in the shallows and are far more easier to grab. It takes a whole hell of alot more skill to catch a fish by hand instead of tricking it to bite.
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I catch most my fish by hand. First thing in the morning is the best as they sit in the shallows and are far more easier to grab. It takes a whole hell of alot more skill to catch a fish by hand instead of tricking it to bite.
I was going to say in my original post... any one that is able to stand in the shallows and grab fish gets props, and I'd let them slide away with their fish in peace ;D
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Maybe his first fish of the season? Seems abit desperate to drop the gear and tackle the fish. If it been me,I would of smiled as the fish swam away.
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If it been me,I would of smiled as the fish swam away.
i have yet to see a fisherman be happy to lose a prize hatch on the beach...now if it was wild, that would be a different story...then again, if you only fish c&r that would also make sense.
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Maybe it was the guys 1st Steelhead and i surely would have done this same thing if it was my first.
Sounds like a little bit of jealousy or maybe even sour grapes here.
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Do the regs say its illegal to catch fish by hand? (Without using a net or spear)
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I was going to say in my original post... any one that is able to stand in the shallows and grab fish gets props, and I'd let them slide away with their fish in peace ;D
x2 probally ask for a few lessons too.but c&r only or in my case mostly releasing without the catching part.
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I was going to say in my original post... any one that is able to stand in the shallows and grab fish gets props, and I'd let them slide away with their fish in peace ;D
X3 Seen it quite often actually especially during salmon season! Are people that desperate that they have to drag the fish in quickly and as far up the beach as they can just to retain a fish? I've seen guys drag a fish onto the beach but still be far from the float and leader only to have the hook pop loose and see the guy chuck his gear in pursuit of the fish trying to get back in the water. It's sad really....you have waders and you don't use them?
Hatchery or wild my friends and I play the fish into a good enough landing postion where we can tail it or easily unbutton the hook without putting more strain on the fish but if we happen to lose the fish in the process well it's too bad and carry on. It's not hard but I guess it comes with experience cause there's still people that can't tail a fish confidently.
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I find it more silly than offensive. :D
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Free entertainment is hard to come by.Would have been pulling for the fish, but understand the "desperation dance" for a CONFIRMED hatchery fish - most of us have been there at some point. IMO - Stay cool, play em' out quickly, and bring them to hand... not as fun to watch, but the most controlled technique.
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Funny story. LOL
With wilds out numbering hatchery by a wide margin this season, I guess he really wanted to keep it.
As a fisherman I think I can understanding what's driving him.
More of a humourous episode I guess. :)
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With wilds out numbering hatchery by a wide margin this season, I guess he really wanted to keep it.
Really? Does anyone else out there think there have been more wild than hatchery fish this season?
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Ya, definitely more wild this year.
By the way, how many of you guys will not jump in if you like to eat steelhead and yet has no hatch to show so far, and the hatch is fairly hooked but it pops at the water's edge? I admit I am just human.
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Ya, definitely more wild this year.
By the way, how many of you guys will not jump in if you like to eat steelhead and yet has no hatch to show so far, and the hatch is fairly hooked but it pops at the water's edge? I admit I am just human.
Many of you may have seen this but on Boxing Day this angler wanted his fish. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA7tKf_8J0o&feature=share&list=UU_4LtEFjHj-ulBHuoq6COmQ
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Do the regs say its illegal to catch fish by hand? (Without using a net or spear)
Yes, it's illegal to catch and retain fish in BC by hand...the regs specify the only ways you can take fish other than angling.
But I guess if you let it go, nobody is going to bust you for "trout tickling".......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tszDNiPqm5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tszDNiPqm5c)
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Yes, it's illegal to catch and retain fish in BC by hand...the regs specify the only ways you can take fish other than angling.
But I guess if you let it go, nobody is going to bust you for "trout tickling".......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tszDNiPqm5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tszDNiPqm5c)
That fish is so dead...
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i have yet to see a fisherman be happy to lose a prize hatch on the beach...now if it was wild, that would be a different story...then again, if you only fish c&r that would also make sense.
Not happy,just amused by getting beat. Once in awhile the fish wins. Some fellas act like its a life or death situation out there when playing a fish. Relax and enjoy it.
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Do the regs say its illegal to catch fish by hand? (Without using a net or spear)
The regs say the only legal way to catch fish is to "angle" with a line and hook (rod optional), including using down rigger (with quick release), a set line (one unattended line and one hook) in some areas for burbot, and ice fishing (with a hook and line), although you may spear fish (in some areas) for burbot and non game species and trap cray fish. All other methods of taking fish [including the hand grab] is illegal.
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Maybe it was the guys 1st Steelhead and i surely would have done this same thing if it was my first.
Sounds like a little bit of jealousy or maybe even sour grapes here.
Not sour grapes at all, I was happy for the guy when he was fighting it. I've had my fair share this year. FAIR share,
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First of all Bigfisher your a real sportsman.lol. Happened to me once , my rod snapped in half just as I was about to land a steelhead. I jumped on the fish and grabbed it. Got 3rd place in the Boxing Day derby. The difference was the hook and line was still attached to the fish.
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Here is one to mull over. Light is waning and you are the last one left. Last cast time to go. As you are breaking down your rod to head back to you vehicle, you spot a chrome fish rolling and spinning comming down the river from above. This fish is close to the bank so you go and investigate. It is a wild doe around 12lbs. that is now bellyup with blood pouring out of its mouth and gills. Vehicle is 5 mins. away no one else around. You take the fish or it becomes seagull bait? I took the fish. So which infraction of the law is worse? What you just read now or the guy who really landed the fish and took out the hook before he bonked it and it tried to get away.
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Thank's for that clip Chris. I was hoping that you would post that video :)
By the way, I seem to remember Rod and you flopping to get a hatch that popped off above lickman a few years ago.
I was in stitches, too bad that one was only filmed in my mind. ;D
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Thank's for that clip Chris. I was hoping that you would post that video :)
By the way, I seem to remember Rod and you flopping to get a hatch that popped off above lickman a few years ago.
I was in stitches, too bad that one was only filmed in my mind. ;D
Hey now, Chris and I were just spectators in that incident.... ;D
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/blog/2009/01/29/presentation-changes-enticed-a-fish-and-a-half/
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Does this one count as a catch and release? ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCQJaO-gUg
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Hey now, Chris and I were just spectators in that incident.... ;D
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/blog/2009/01/29/presentation-changes-enticed-a-fish-and-a-half/
That why we called it the "Soccer Field" run. ;D ;D ;D
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Thank's rod, iknew there was more than two of you, but yeah, that's the place and time :)
And yes, it was pretty comical to watch.
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Here is one to mull over. Light is waning and you are the last one left. Last cast time to go. As you are breaking down your rod to head back to you vehicle, you spot a chrome fish rolling and spinning comming down the river from above. This fish is close to the bank so you go and investigate. It is a wild doe around 12lbs. that is now bellyup with blood pouring out of its mouth and gills. Vehicle is 5 mins. away no one else around. You take the fish or it becomes seagull bait? I took the fish. So which infraction of the law is worse? What you just read now or the guy who really landed the fish and took out the hook before he bonked it and it tried to get away.
Really? If you don't know that your example is poaching you shouldn't be on the water. Wilds go back. No question.
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Really? If you don't know that your example is poaching you shouldn't be on the water. Wilds go back. No question.
I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that...
Lets just say I don't want a $500 fine, no matter what the ethics are behind it. Not to mention potentially having your vehicle and gear seized.
Grabbing a fish that fell off your hook is a lot different (once again) than trying to explain to a CO why you have a wild fish fish in your possession.
I'v had to release a couple bleeders over the years, just something you have to do. Death happens naturally on the systems, a bear or something would have gotten it.
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Even a dead steelhead won't go wasted as it will feed wild life and/or provide nutrients for the river system.
I don't see justification for picking up a dying steelhead from the river. Especially a wild one.
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Island dude what you did is an infraction because you can't retain a wild steelhead. If a fisheries officer stopped you hed charge you . He's probably been given that story a hundred times. , doesn't matter if its going to die or not. The hatchery fish the guy caught isn't an infraction because he hadlready beached the fish and then it flopped to the edge of water.
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Bottom line... Man playing fish: great drama. Man rasslin' fish: great humour. ;D ;D ;D
I see it as a good opportunity to remember that we should laugh at ourselves once in a while.