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Title: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 15, 2013, 05:16:44 PM
Steelhead brood capture got off to a good start today.  It was the first day that the 70 to 80 fish will be taken for the 2013 brood stock.

Chilliwack River Hatchery staff were busy as when they picked up the small buck from me at 2 o'clock it was number 7 for the day. From all reports fish were taken all the way through the system.

I will get some pictures up on the Fraser Valley Salmon Societies FB page later or Rod will put them up here he wishes.

Thanks to all the volunteers that are carrying the tubes this year.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: typhoon on January 15, 2013, 05:29:25 PM
Excellent news!
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: islanddude on January 15, 2013, 05:57:55 PM
Chris. Are you required to have a special permit issued by the province to catch steelhead brood on the Chilliwack system?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: steely02 on January 15, 2013, 06:26:44 PM
I would love to contribute. Where do I go to get a tube?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 15, 2013, 06:41:29 PM
Yes all people that have tubes are issued a permit before the program starts.

Thanks steely02 for your interest but all permits are now issued for 2013.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: DanJohn on January 15, 2013, 07:18:26 PM
So obviously if you need a permit, you guys go for Wild Fish. Is that to say though, that  only Wild Fish are used for the brood program? Are hatchery fish not "reused" or would that mess with the genetics of the stock?

/learning
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 15, 2013, 07:36:50 PM
So obviously if you need a permit, you guys go for Wild Fish. Is that to say though, that  only Wild Fish are used for the brood program? Are hatchery fish not "reused" or would that mess with the genetics of the stock?

/learning
Wild stock are used on the Chilliwack Vedder River.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: steely02 on January 15, 2013, 09:06:13 PM
Ok thanks Chris, how would I get a permit for next year then?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 15, 2013, 09:38:35 PM
Ok thanks Chris, how would I get a permit for next year then?
Abbotsford Hatchery issues them.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: Johnny Canuck on January 15, 2013, 11:42:18 PM
Abbotsford Hatchery issues them.

Which is the Fraser Valley Trout Hatchery. It's not very likely that they will be issuing any new permits for brood capture on the Chilliwack system as they already have quite a few brood anglers for that system. I have done brood work on other systems in the past and figured I would ask about the Chilliwack system as I fish there as well and figured I would bring the tube while I'm there. However was told that they have enough anglers to easily meet there set quota each season.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 16, 2013, 02:15:14 PM
Heard of only one wild doe tubed today in my neck of the woods anyway, by 11 AM. Nothing for me, only 850 more casts to go for the next one. ::)
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: Steely on January 16, 2013, 03:11:44 PM
Add another one to that Chris as I gave my wild doe to a brood guy today. Always a nice feeling to be able to contribute ;D
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 16, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
Add another one to that Chris as I gave my wild doe to a brood guy today. Always a nice feeling to be able to contribute ;D
Well done and thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: Brian the fisherman on January 16, 2013, 11:39:10 PM
I head that a 20+ lb fish was captured for brood, am I right or was that just a fisherman eye scale.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: alwaysfishn on January 17, 2013, 07:57:09 AM
I head that a 20+ lb fish was captured for brood, am I right or was that just a fisherman eye scale.

I talked to a fellow that captured a 19 lb wild buck on the first day. It's natural that it would have grown to 20+....

Either way, should be a nice addition to the gene pool.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: dcajaxs on January 17, 2013, 10:21:15 PM
very nice to hear of the continuation of the program and that people are helping out where they can
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 18, 2013, 09:44:47 AM
I head that a 20+ lb fish was captured for brood, am I right or was that just a fisherman eye scale.
14 to 15 I hear.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: Burkie on January 18, 2013, 10:56:59 PM
Supposedly weighed in at the on the way store
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 19, 2013, 07:14:55 AM
Supposedly weighed in at the on the way store
That certainly would be a nice hatchery fish but I believe we were talking about a wild fish taken for brood.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: Noahs Arc on January 19, 2013, 08:20:02 AM
I've never been one to weigh in, but I didn't think they weighed fish at On The Way?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: Pin-nook on January 19, 2013, 10:55:51 AM
Supposedly weighed in at the on the way store


 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D...I think  also heard they tried at Fred's but the fish kept flopping off the scale and too many customers wanted to take hero pics with it before it was off to the hatchery!
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: joshhowat on January 19, 2013, 08:54:13 PM
Sounds and smells like bull crap
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 21, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
While Lew and I looked for the Leaf Mobile today one brood capture chap tubed 3. ;D
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on January 22, 2013, 05:29:47 PM
Number around 21 at noon today 50/50 bucks and does.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: chris gadsden on February 08, 2013, 06:24:23 AM
From all account the tubing continues to go well with around 30 does and 19 bucks by the last number I received so some more are needed to meet the target of around the 70 pairs for the 2013 program. Thanks to the tubers and to those donating the steelhead to them so there will be hatchery fish in the future for those that like to take a hatchery fish home for the table.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: bigrig on February 10, 2013, 04:11:20 PM
Just out of curiousity, is 70 pairs the usual target for the hatchery?
After 4 great years in a row catching these stealthy creatures, this year has been very trying!
I have heard that these people at the hatchery and the volunteers do an amazing job but surely something must have happened this year in particular.Can or will the old timers give the rest of us your thoughts on this.Thank you
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: Dave on February 10, 2013, 04:52:22 PM
35 pairs are collected; about 5-10 die on average and are replaced with fish captured by hatchery staff in the closed area.
Think about the numbers ... app 50 wild fish have been captured between 20 or so of the best rods on this river over about one month.  Consider also water conditions for the most part have been optimal; this tells me the early part of this run is lower than normal.  How low will be determined when a few of us locals do our annual enumerations starting April..
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: Every Day on February 10, 2013, 06:14:07 PM
35 pairs are collected; about 5-10 die on average and are replaced with fish captured by hatchery staff in the closed area.
Think about the numbers ... app 50 wild fish have been captured between 20 or so of the best rods on this river over about one month.  Consider also water conditions for the most part have been optimal; this tells me the early part of this run is lower than normal.  How low will be determined when a few of us locals do our annual enumerations starting April..


I'm starting to think this is evident everywhere at this point. I'v done ok, but it seems to be abnormal and/or lucky.
Stamp has been dead for quite a while now (granted the water is less than ideal at a very low level, but you would think the fish would push in any ways eventually).
A few of the other rivers I fish down island have been dead, very few fish caught despite some great water bumps.
Now I'm up north island... same story. Rivers all bumped a couple days back and still very few fish to be had, and have covered over 6 km of water each of the past 2 days.

I sure hope numbers pick up in the later season....
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Capture On The Chilliwack Vedder River Off To A Good Start.
Post by: mr.p on February 11, 2013, 12:56:11 AM
I concur with the previous posters.  So far, this has been the worst season I've had ever on the vedder.  Compared to the last three years, I've put in the same amount of days, but have less than a third the number of fish.  The same goes for a couple buddies of mine.

Tough fishing.  Dissecting long stretches of river and not touching or seeing a fish has become the norm this year.