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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: oscar on November 17, 2012, 07:34:15 PM

Title: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: oscar on November 17, 2012, 07:34:15 PM
Heading to the Thompson lookin' for steel monday/tues.... any recent updates/stories?
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: yakideath12 on November 17, 2012, 07:55:06 PM
make sure bring a stick ;D
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: chris gadsden on November 17, 2012, 07:56:42 PM
Must be doing well as no one is giving reports, here anyway. ??? ;D
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: oscar on November 17, 2012, 08:02:56 PM
Still "putting in time" before I'm able to access reports section.... just fishin! Local buddies have been fishing it lately with some success.... just stoked to be going, looking for inspiration! Been on the bucket list for some time... finding the time to persue is another story. :)
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: patagonia on November 17, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Go up and explore, its one of those systems that people dont want to see plastered on forums, enjoy the river with your buddies and share your stories over a beer, not on the internet.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: oscar on November 17, 2012, 08:57:58 PM
Just generating discussion on a "discussion board" I thought was available to share stories.  :-\ Yes I do have all the reports I need, just being social. My bad.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: patagonia on November 17, 2012, 09:11:06 PM
Oscar, the intent of my reply was really just to let you know as a new member that reporting about certain systems on the internet can be dangerous... it maybe was a little blunt, I can admit that. The fact is that this site is viewed by thousands of members and people just trolling for easy info that they dont have to work for. Im not saying the Thompson is a secret, or you are one of those guys, just saying that systems like the Thompson are recovering and added pressure is not what it needs. If I posted a report of fishing the Seymour, another system in recovery, saying I hammered a nice hatch coho, you would see 10 more guys than u did yesterday. These systems dont need the added pressure. Go there, by all means, put in the effort and discover the river, enjoy it and like I said before save your memories for yourself and your friends that were out there with u.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: greyghost on November 17, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Oscar, the intent of my reply was really just to let you know as a new member that reporting about certain systems on the internet can be dangerous... it maybe was a little blunt, I can admit that. The fact is that this site is viewed by thousands of members and people just trolling for easy info that they dont have to work for. Im not saying the Thompson is a secret, or you are one of those guys, just saying that systems like the Thompson are recovering and added pressure is not what it needs. If I posted a report of fishing the Seymour, another system in recovery, saying I hammered a nice hatch coho, you would see 10 more guys than u did yesterday. These systems dont need the added pressure. Go there, by all means, put in the effort and discover the river, enjoy it and like I said before save your memories for yourself and your friends that were out there with u.
Well said Patagonia! 8)
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: oscar on November 17, 2012, 11:23:32 PM
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Patagonia...Thanks for the heads-up.

I may be a "new member" but I'm not new to the fishing scene, or to the adverse effects the internet can have on our local flows.Although this site is obviously full of trollers looking for easy info, there is also legitamate members looking to drum up disscussion on the "discussion board".I understand that systems such as the Seymour and Thompson are delicate ,to say the least, but maybe try educating instead of policing.I bet we all wish we could control the pressure our local rivers see.

I'll be there putting in the effort enjoying and discovering the river,fishing responsibly, and sharing my experiences with my friends and anybody else that's interested..... but don't worry, I won't post it here.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: Rodney on November 17, 2012, 11:29:31 PM
this site is obviously full of trollers....

Come on! That's an understatement... ::)

Just to echo what others have mentioned. It's good to see updates and reports on put and take fisheries, but fisheries such as the Thompson River and many others which can be categorized in a different class should be treated differently.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: chris gadsden on November 18, 2012, 08:28:50 AM
Heading to the Thompson lookin' for steel monday/tues.... any recent updates/stories?
You may want to watch this video if you have not already I filmed it a bit over a year ago.

http://youtu.be/zf9YK1-P_kM

Of course it will lead to some more discussion on this topic. ;D
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: brownmancheng on November 18, 2012, 09:07:51 AM
What is the number one risk to the Thompson steelhead? Environmental(water temps), agticultural activity or interception during migration?
Anyone care to hypothesize??
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: oscar on November 18, 2012, 09:10:58 AM
Thanks Chris for the education.... I feel lucky to even have the opportunity to give it a shot.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: chris gadsden on November 18, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
Thanks Chris for the education.... I feel lucky to even have the opportunity to give it a shot.
Yes it is always a lovely river to be at as well as angle. I only fished steelhead there once, a few years ago and was fortunate to get one on my second cast and landed another as well later on.

Be very carefull out there as the rocks are very slippery especially when wet as many will attest too.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: Bandit420 on November 18, 2012, 10:57:47 AM
I thought about fishing the Thompson for the first time this year and then I thought about the well being of these sacred fish. Therr numners are so low yet fisheries open it for C/R for the well being of anglers and the economy. Its time to put the well being of theses fish first and im not going to fish this fishery until the numbers go way up. Which will probably never happen.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: chris gadsden on November 18, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
I thought about fishing the Thompson for the first time this year and then I thought about the well being of these sacred fish. Therr numners are so low yet fisheries open it for C/R for the well being of anglers and the economy. Its time to put the well being of theses fish first and im not going to fish this fishery until the numbers go way up. Which will probably never happen.

Just my 2 cents.
It can if people and groups like the SSBC work towards getting the numbers back up to where they once were.

If we just sit on the side lines nothing will happen thats for sure.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: salmonlover on November 18, 2012, 01:20:59 PM
It can if people and groups like the SSBC work towards getting the numbers back up to where they once were.

If we just sit on the side lines nothing will happen thats for sure.

I agree these groups are important to regaining the salmon and steelhead numbers. My biggest problem is why most fishing clubs dont use their biggest resource...first nations. Instead of harping on them calling them poachers and not understanding their rights. They are never going to change first nations rights...if you can't beat them join them. The environmentalist that are trying to stop the northern gateway pipeline understand this, and have used first nations in a very beneficial way. David Suzuki (dont see eye to eye on a lot of things) but he has supported first nations and understands their rights, and knows that they are very important to saving the salmon population. I've always contended this....we will get nowhere unless sport-fishers and first nations come together. They have the rights we don't....so why not use them to our advantage. If rivers are endangered where you are find the local band....and persuade the council to take up the cause. Ive talked to a lot of bands on the fraser river, and they are just as fed up with the populations as you are.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on November 18, 2012, 06:28:16 PM
I find it funny that people say it shouldnt be posted on the forums yet I see a ton of people posting pics of steelhead caught from the Thompson on Facebook.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: patagonia on November 18, 2012, 06:54:17 PM
I guess it all depends on how you use facebook... this thread has 588 views already, if you have only your close friends and family on facebook and your photos restricted to your friends then the exposure is very limited; however, if you use facebook like youtube and have an open searchable profile then you are right, no real difference
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: BigFisher on November 18, 2012, 07:01:22 PM
I find it funny that people say it shouldnt be posted on the forums yet I see a ton of people posting pics of steelhead caught from the Thompson on Facebook.

Its one thing to post on a fishing forum and another to post amongst mutual friends on facebook...
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: chris gadsden on November 18, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
Only hardened anglers fish the T at this time of year. ;D
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: silver ghost on November 18, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
I guess it all depends on how you use facebook... this thread has 588 views already, if you have only your close friends and family on facebook and your photos restricted to your friends then the exposure is very limited; however, if you use facebook like youtube and have an open searchable profile then you are right, no real difference

I find it funny that people say it shouldnt be posted on the forums yet I see a ton of people posting pics of steelhead caught from the Thompson on Facebook.

I disagree. I would argue most people these days do not have open, searchable facebook profiles... and it's doubtful guys who are looking for fishing info would start typing in random names in hopes of finding someone who fishes and posts photos of the fish they catch along with locations and names... facebook and this forum are not even remotely similar.

The only people on here are those interested in fishing and looking for info... most of whom we don't know. This is far different form facebook, where - for example, (on my friends list) only about 5% of them fish... and of that 5%, all fish ethically....
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: blaydRnr on November 18, 2012, 11:02:44 PM
Most anglers who are willing to travel 100's of km and spend equally as much in dollars for the privilege of catch and release are not your typical meat hunters. They're usually the most knowledgeable or at the least most respectful of the fish and don't take the resource for granted.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: brownmancheng on November 19, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
Most anglers who are willing to travel 100's of km and spend equally as much in dollars for the privilege of catch and release are not your typical meat hunters. They're usually the most knowledgeable or at the least most respectful of the fish and don't take the resource for granted.

Bingo!! People that want to poach will stay as close to home as possible @ the most productive waterways possible. Nobody wants to admit, fishers just love to keep secrets :):):)
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: Bandit420 on November 19, 2012, 10:25:56 AM
It can if people and groups like the SSBC work towards getting the numbers back up to where they once were.

If we just sit on the side lines nothing will happen thats for sure.

this is how i see it now. those fish have to travel so far and once they make it to the T. Lets say one fish gets hooked pre spawn, puts up an epic fight and is drained of much needed energy. then the fish goes and spawns and is now a kelt and will eat anything
 here comes bobby with his rod and hooks this kelt which is now depleted of basically of all its energy because it had to fight for its life. now is this fish really going to make that long journey back to sea? I highly doubt it. so the best thing you can do for those fish is too just leave them alone and let them spawn.

my other 2 pennies.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: hue-nut on November 19, 2012, 10:32:31 AM
this is how i see it now. those fish have to travel so far and once they make it to the T. Lets say one fish gets hooked pre spawn, puts up an epic fight and is drained of much needed energy. then the fish goes and spawns and is now a kelt and will eat anything
 here comes bobby with his rod and hooks this kelt which is now depleted of basically of all its energy because it had to fight for its life. now is this fish really going to make that long journey back to sea? I highly doubt it. so the best thing you can do for those fish is too just leave them alone and let them spawn.

my other 2 pennies.

um.... sounds really scientific  ::) good for you
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: Bandit420 on November 19, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
I find it funny that people say it shouldnt be posted on the forums yet I see a ton of people posting pics of steelhead caught from the Thompson on Facebook.

LOL! I find this post funny ;D. Facebook is for sharing with friends and family not 5000 people that are lurking on a website! Come on now....
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: Bandit420 on November 19, 2012, 11:15:59 AM
um.... sounds really scientific  ::) good for you

Not scientific just use of the good old common sense.....
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: Rodney on November 19, 2012, 11:18:30 AM
this is how i see it now. those fish have to travel so far and once they make it to the T. Lets say one fish gets hooked pre spawn, puts up an epic fight and is drained of much needed energy. then the fish goes and spawns and is now a kelt and will eat anything
 here comes bobby with his rod and hooks this kelt which is now depleted of basically of all its energy because it had to fight for its life. now is this fish really going to make that long journey back to sea? I highly doubt it. so the best thing you can do for those fish is too just leave them alone and let them spawn.

my other 2 pennies.

These steelhead actually do not spawn until several months after the fishery closes, so the recapturing of post-spawning fish can be avoided.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: greyghost on November 19, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
These steelhead actually do not spawn until several months after the fishery closes, so the recapturing of post-spawning fish can be avoided.
Why? Rod Why? I was going to ask 420 when those fish spawned! Now where did i put my roach clip! ;)
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: fyrslyer on November 19, 2012, 12:02:18 PM
Why? Rod Why? I was going to ask 420 when those fish spawned! Now where did i put my roach clip! ;)

Haha
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: Rodney on November 19, 2012, 12:18:45 PM
There's no need for that. Participants of the discussion forum do not know everything, otherwise there isn't a need to participate and learn. It's likely that you and I also don't possess some information that others are fully aware of.
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: greyghost on November 19, 2012, 12:51:42 PM
Might as well call this forum Discussion with Rod! Is humor taboo on this forum? Over and out! :-X
Title: Re: Updates on the Thompson?
Post by: Rodney on November 19, 2012, 02:39:02 PM
Humour is always welcome, just not at the expense of other participants. It's simply a suggestion to keep the discussion on track, perhaps a little thicker skin is needed if that bothers you.