Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: chris gadsden on October 12, 2012, 06:29:17 AM
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Rain now falling on the Vedder River, please be careful as you drive to work and to the river as the roads will be very slick after the long dry period.
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Very hard now, heading for the evening bite, will file a report along with some video footage of "The Master" at work under fishing reports later this evening, stay tunned. ;D
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In all my yrs living in the Vancouver area I never have remembered such a dry spell from basically July to the present date Oct 10-11.
Cowichan watershed hopefully will also get a lot of rain.
Salmon surely will be on the move in local rivers.
Super cloudy / showery Spring & then dry sunny summer into the fall so it all evens out.
Are we in for cloudy skies till June 2013 ????
All the best on your fishing outting.
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Nature has a way of balancing things out.
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I was dragging the prop on the bottom of the "blown out" river. :-\ The ground is so dry it's going to suck up lots of the rain.
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roads are slick and lots of hydro planning on the highway too.
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We still haven't started seeing rain out here... only a grand total of just over 4 mm so far :'(
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Ankle deep on the way to "walley ring road" today. :P
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Borderline monsoon right now in Sardis ;D
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All the Rain is gonna do is trigger the fish to shoot upstream, Good luck with the bite.
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All the Rain is gonna do is trigger the fish to shoot upstream, Good luck with the bite.
;D
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I guess those that wanted rain have now got their wish and along with that you have mud and unfishable conditions except for flossing and long linning. ::) I got the garbage bin out in time at KWB before it washed away tonight. Thanks to all that used it as I cleaned it out several times and have a few hundred pounds now to dispose of. See pictures of what it looked like at KWB at dark on the FVSS facebook page..
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fraser-Valley-Salmon-Society/111769675563789#!/media/set/?set=a.373830826024338.85007.111769675563789&type=1
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I guess those that wanted rain have now got their wish and along with that you have mud and unfishable conditions except for flossing and long linning.
I wanted the rain for the sake of the resource. The situation had gotten critical and the rain was badly needed.
So what if the conditions are unfishable for a few days?
As for the flossers and long liners - I didn't see low water conditions keep them away.
Beeks will be beeks regardless of the conditions.
All I know is this rain might be life saving for a good number of fish and their offspring.
Paraphrasing Spock: The need of the many (fish) outweigh the need of the few (anglers). ;)
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Well said Milo, I agree
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Went to the capilano today and man it's fast, what lures do you put under your floats for fast water conditions, be it here or someplace else like the vedder
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Bang on Milo!
Steelhead, coho, char and whitefish parr have all been devastated by this drought, mainly in the off channel areas like Peach, Salwein, Borden, Liumchen and Deer Creeks. I suspect other coho rearing streams like Paleface, Depot and Post have also been hard hit and expect near zero survival of salmonid parr from most, especially Peach Channel.
The next issue to be addressed is the beaver dams stopping upstream migration of chums on a few of these so important off channels.
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Bang on Milo!
Steelhead, coho, char and whitefish parr have all been devastated by this drought, mainly in the off channel areas like Peach, Salwein, Borden, Liumchen and Deer Creeks. I suspect other coho rearing streams like Paleface, Depot and Post have also been hard hit and expect near zero survival of salmonid parr from most, especially Peach Channel.
The next issue to be addressed is the beaver dams stopping upstream migration of chums on a few of these so important off channels.
Good points, who is dealing with the dams?
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The next issue to be addressed is the beaver dams stopping upstream migration of chums on a few of these so important off channels.
Dave, let me know if something is being done in that respect.
Wouldn't mind driving out to Chilliwack to help wreck a few damns.
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Went to the capilano today and man it's fast
Fast enough to wreck and wash away all the stone weirs Indians constructed near Park Royal? When I was there a few weeks ago, nothing could get through...
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Fast enough to wreck and wash away all the stone weirs Indians constructed near Park Royal? When I was there a few weeks ago, nothing could get through...
The high water has rid of the weirs.
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Good points, who is dealing with the dams?
It is always a grey area as no one agency has ever taken full responsibility for beaver dam removal but in past years the staff at the Chilliwack River hatchery have stepped up, including paying for trapping.
In most cases if the animals aren't removed (killed, as the Province does not relocate beavers), the dams are simply rebuilt the next day.
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That's a fact .
Tore apart a beaver dam at the south end of Ten Mile Lake because 100's of big trout were trapped down stream of a small creek.
Barely any water in the creek ( big ditch really) as fish were gathered in various pools.
It took me at least 3 hrs of ripping & pulling.
Next day the beavers built a big dam back & it looked like the very same way before I ripped up the 1st one.
Busy as beavers slogan is true.
These suckers had to work very hard over the night.
This dam was aprox 12 meters by 7 meters at least.
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So isn't that the best solution instead of killing them. Destroy the dam once a week or so to let the fish by and then they put it back and have a home. Kind of like a draw bridge that opens temporarily to let boats by
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Doing a beaver cull is probably the best thing to do. Unless the population gets thinned out, the number of beavers expand along with the dams they would create thereby affecting some of the small creeks and tributaries along the river.
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Doing a beaver cull is probably the best thing to do. Unless the population gets thinned out, the number of beavers expand along with the dams they would create thereby affecting some of the small creeks and tributaries along the river.
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Besides, beaver meat is very tasty, so they needn't be wasted.
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Besides, beaver meat is very tasty, so they needn't be wasted.
Mmmmmmm, Beeeeeaaaaverrrrrrrrrrrr *homer drool*....we may be talking about something different here though :P
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You guys are hilarious!!!!! ;D :D :o
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Mmmmmmm, Beeeeeaaaaverrrrrrrrrrrr *homer drool*....we may be talking about something different here though :P
HAHAHAHAHAHA awesome!
Milo is it actually tasty to some people?
When I went trapping we always got rid of it or used it as bait for bobcat because it has such a bad fishy taste.
You can get a decent amount of money for the pelts though :P
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When I went trapping we always got rid of it or used it as bait for bobcat because it has such a bad fishy taste.
I'd venture to guess that you didn't get rid of the scent glands and the fat, eh?
Failing to do that will indeed make the critter taste unpleasant. It happens with many animals.
But if you get to trap a young one (ideally not more than two years old), remove the glands and the fat, you are left with a few pounds of delightful, deep red wild meat.
I only had the chance to try it twice, both times it was prepared by expert hunters and cooks. Both times it tasted superb.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA awesome!
Milo is it actually tasty to some people?
When I went trapping we always got rid of it or used it as bait for bobcat because it has such a bad fishy taste.
You can get a decent amount of money for the pelts though :P
Actually Dan, that's the problem ... beaver just aren't worth that much anymore, and any one who has skinned a few, like me, knows they take considerable time and effort. At $20 a large, last price I heard, it's just not cost effective to trap them.
These animals can be a big problem on the lower river where beaver activity can have a significant impact on salmonid productivity.
Sadly, these lower river beavers are now urban animals and in the sight of hundreds of people and .... dogs. In the water. Lethal trapping, really the only practical solution, comes with liability issues that few registered trappers are willing to address.
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They say when you run out of ponies to eat, beaver is next on the menu.
http://raincoaster.com/2009/11/11/beaver-shots-how-to-eat-beaver/
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Actually Dan, that's the problem ... beaver just aren't worth that much anymore, and any one who has skinned a few, like me, knows they take considerable time and effort. At $20 a large, last price I heard, it's just not cost effective to trap them.
These animals can be a big problem on the lower river where beaver activity can have a significant impact on salmonid productivity.
Sadly, these lower river beavers are now urban animals and in the sight of hundreds of people and .... dogs. In the water. Lethal trapping, really the only practical solution, comes with liability issues that few registered trappers are willing to address.
You are right about it taking a lot of effort to trap a beaver, skin it and preparing the hide. 45 years ago I used to get $30 plus for a large hide.