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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: kalex60 on September 23, 2012, 11:13:34 PM

Title: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: kalex60 on September 23, 2012, 11:13:34 PM
Is a rainbow trout the hose to the great lake a steelhead or dose it just come back a big rainbow trout. What's your opinion
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: Brian the fisherman on September 24, 2012, 10:01:23 AM
they are steelhead. that is my opinion.

the resident bows are a different strain of fish.
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: Noahs Arc on September 24, 2012, 10:37:40 AM
Well a steelhead is anadromous, meaning it moves from a body of water to a river to spawn.
So if it's anadromous technically its a steelhead... But we all know the real steel is on the west coast!
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: DanJohn on September 24, 2012, 11:04:04 AM
Should call them Stainless Steelheads since they dont have to get out into the ocean and get their hands (fins?) dirty.

But yeah, I dont see why they wouldnt be steelies. They move into very wide and open water to live, and then migrate back into streams to spawn. Sure its not the ocean, but Id say they are still doing the same thing as the Realsteelheads.
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: DionJL on September 24, 2012, 11:41:37 AM
Fake ocean, fake steelhead.
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: Noahs Arc on September 24, 2012, 12:48:36 PM
Fake ocean, fake steelhead.

 :D  ;D
Agreed


Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: clarki on September 24, 2012, 12:58:08 PM
Further confounding the issue is that Great Lakes steelhead (from both sides of the border) originally were transplanted from the west coast, primarily the McCloud River in California.

   
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: kalex60 on September 24, 2012, 05:38:10 PM
I though that to be a steelhead it had to go to the ocean because dont all rainbows go to streams to spawn
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: kalex60 on September 24, 2012, 05:39:08 PM
Should call them Stainless Steelheads since they dont have to get out into the ocean and get their hands (fins?) dirty.

But yeah, I dont see why they wouldnt be steelies. They move into very wide and open water to live, and then migrate back into streams to spawn. Sure its not the ocean, but Id say they are still doing the same thing as the Realsteelheads.
what kind of predetors are there in the great lakes
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: BCfisherman97 on September 24, 2012, 05:49:07 PM
Not true steelhead, the look and probably even fight different. They look round sometimes, like there were from a hatchery in a tank, with flat noses etc
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: kingpin on September 24, 2012, 06:23:03 PM
migratory rainbows
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: Brian the fisherman on September 24, 2012, 06:34:37 PM
I think this is a good read, it answered quite a few questions i had about the fishery as well.
http://www.ontariooutofdoors.com/fishing/trout/?ID=36&a=read (http://www.ontariooutofdoors.com/fishing/trout/?ID=36&a=read)
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: steely02 on September 24, 2012, 06:43:38 PM
I'm from Ontario and I would now just call those big rainbows lol. The true steelhead out here fight 10 times stronger then those back home. Could not believe the difference!
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: fyrslyer on September 24, 2012, 08:35:19 PM
They are lake run rainbow trout, not steelhead.
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: adriaticum on September 24, 2012, 09:00:20 PM
They are not real steelhead.
Definition of steelhead is anadromous rainbow trout, which involves migration to salt water.
Not from fresh water to fresh water (Potamodromous).
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: Dogbreath on September 25, 2012, 10:14:13 PM
Call them what you will but the Great Lakes have thousands of times as many of them as BC-Steelies are going extinct here but there's little chance of that happening in the GL.
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: silver ghost on September 25, 2012, 11:45:06 PM
Call them what you will but the Great Lakes have thousands of times as many of them as BC-Steelies are going extinct here but there's little chance of that happening in the GL.

because the lakes are getting so much cleaner and all... :-\
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: Dogbreath on September 26, 2012, 09:31:56 PM
because the lakes are getting so much cleaner and all...
The same issues that plague the Great Lakes affect us here but for many reasons results there are very different-mostly politics I suppose.

One thing I know for sure-twenty years ago I could easily catch 10 Steelhead a day in the Gold now you'd be lucky to catch that many in a season and many don't catch 10 in 5 seasons-the party is effectively over for South Coast Steelhead has been for some time now.
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: adriaticum on September 27, 2012, 08:58:34 AM
The same issues that plague the Great Lakes affect us here but for many reasons results there are very different-mostly politics I suppose.

One thing I know for sure-twenty years ago I could easily catch 10 Steelhead a day in the Gold now you'd be lucky to catch that many in a season and many don't catch 10 in 5 seasons-the party is effectively over for South Coast Steelhead has been for some time now.

I think the greatest threat to the great lakes are the asian carp. If they get into the lakes they will spread like wild fire.
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: fish fishburn on September 30, 2012, 08:08:43 AM
Lake O is an absolutely amazing fishery. spent 4 days there in early June and the fishing was nuts. Everyone was getting into them. Chinnies in the average of 20 to 25 lbs and lots of steelhead. The locals that fish the lake call 10lb steelies shakers, imagine that. Saw probably a dozen Chinnies over 30 lbs in the fish cleaning station while I was there. I still wouldn't eat anything out of Lake O but that my choice, lots do.

You guys think you got it bad out there when the run is on you should see it here. Most of Lake O tribs are water filled ditches compared to the size of the Vedder. Combat fishing at its finest. Dead fish with their guts slit all over the place. Beeks everywhere snagging and flossing. Still lots of sportsman fishers but heavily outnumbered by the others.
Title: Re: Great lakes "steelhead"
Post by: blueback on September 30, 2012, 04:27:26 PM
Where around Lake Ontario were you fishing out of fish fishburn? I was back in the big smoke this past summer, too. I've caught lake run steelies back there too, and they fought about the same as the hatch jobs I've caught here, do (and lots of the wildies I've caught as well).