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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: clarki on September 07, 2012, 10:04:20 PM
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Admit it. How much does fishing feed your ego?
When fighting a fish, how often do you steal a quick glance to see who is watching you play it?
How often is the real motive behind your fishing reports to affirm your status as a skilled angler? Have you ever posted the same fishing report across multiple websites?
When you go into a tackle shop, do you make an effort to ensure the salesperson knows that you aren't a rookie and that you know a thing or two about the sport.
Is any of your fishing attire, or equipment, for show or status?
Why do you really post pictures or YouTube videos?
How often do you hesitate asking a question online because it might contradict the status that you are trying to project?
What do you want your online handle to convey about you?
Guilty. Although I fight my ego, I am guilty of some of these. If you were to truly examine your motives, what about you?
(Sometimes when I fish, I mull. Today I was fishing and mulling :) )
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Interesting topic. In the many years I have been on these forums I dont recall a post like this.
I can answer this truthfully being a veteran of these forums. Years ago I would say yes I posted many reports and on multiple forums. Now I rarely post reports. I think I am just getting older and have pretty much seen everything I can see on these forums. Many posts have been repeated over and over again. Now I would just rather help someone who needs help.
I also am one of those anglers that just has a horseshoe up his butt. I have luck. Ask any of my regular fishing buddies and they will affirm this. So I dont need to brag and I dont claim to be better than anyone else. I just have fun now. So busy with family, work etc that when I get a chance to fish I just want to have fun and relax. I do it more to socialize now than the fishing actually.
This does not mean I dont want to get better as I have always been a person that wants to learn and get better. Why not learn and have more success. I am really enjoying Rod's ( from Bent Rods ) videos on "how to" I can always pick atleast one thing from each of his videos that is new to me. Or even refresh what I knew and forgot.
I do post some pictures on Facebook but they are usually pictures of me with my family fishing or vacations that just happens to include some fishing. This topic could be very interesting....
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Interesting topic. In the many years I have been on these forums I dont recall a post like this.
I can answer this truthfully being a veteran of these forums. Years ago I would say yes I posted many reports and on multiple forums. Now I rarely post reports. I think I am just getting older and have pretty much seen everything I can see on these forums. Many posts have been repeated over and over again. Now I would just rather help someone who needs help.
I also am one of those anglers that just has a horseshoe up his butt. I have luck. Ask any of my regular fishing buddies and they will affirm this. So I dont need to brag and I dont claim to be better than anyone else. I just have fun now. So busy with family, work etc that when I get a chance to fish I just want to have fun and relax. I do it more to socialize now than the fishing actually.
This does not mean I dont want to get better as I have always been a person that wants to learn and get better. Why not learn and have more success. I am really enjoying Rod's ( from Bent Rods ) videos on "how to" I can always pick atleast one thing from each of his videos that is new to me. Or even refresh what I knew and forgot.
I do post some pictures on Facebook but they are usually pictures of me with my family fishing or vacations that just happens to include some fishing. This topic could be very interesting....
Wait to you get to your 70th year like me and you will think a lot different again. I am just happy to be able to get to the river, of course my staff helps too. ;D ;D Also you will not even worry much about what the first poster on this tread talks about. ;D
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Hahaahaa! Some of those blew my mind how accurate they were! ESPECIALLY the tackle store one!
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Fishing is all about pleasuring myself.
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Fishing is all about pleasuring myself.
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I use to be pretty bad I would say for the report posting across multiple sites, etc. I'm not sure that it was to feed my ego though, more just about being super excited for my first year and finally catching fish. Now a days when I post reports (and I rarely do) it is honestly to give people a read. I very much enjoy reading other peoples reports when I have nothing to do or times where I can't get out fishing for some reason. People like Chris with the detail he puts into his reports are what I like to read a lot of the time, and I hope by throwing reports up I'm returning the favour.
Same goes for posting pictures. I really like taking pictures. They don't even need to be of fish, a lot of times I'm fooling around with my camera taking picts of scenery, casting, etc more than I am actually fishing, especially when exploring a new area. I do post all of my pictures on Facebook, but don't post many online any more either. I just like being able to look back and relive that day. Kinda the same thing with videos, the fishing ones I've made I will watch quite often in the off season to get me pumped for steelhead, coho, whatever it may be.
Last ones... well never have really thought about looking around, although I am sure I do it sub consciously. Any one who knows me would definitely say my gear is for fishing and not show (I'm not into spending money). When I go into tackle stores I rarely talk with people because I know what I am looking for generally. And lastly, my forum handle Every Day was to reflect that when I first joined up, I literally fished every day ;D
All in all, we all feed our ego. I am definitely as guilty of it as any one else.
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i'm the opposite...i don't like giving away my fishing spots nor do i like bringing attention to myself (on the river)...i'll give the odd report to inform fellow fishers of the water condition, but in reality i think i've only posted one photo of a coho many years ago.
i will admit though i like to compare notes with the boys at berry's bait and tackle because you can never know it all....they've actually helped me throughout the years with different gears and techniques.
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i'm the opposite...i don't like giving away my fishing spots nor do i like bringing attention to myself (on the river)...
x2. I fish mainly for the thrill of getting into some hard fighting fish, and to enjoy the outdoors; getting something tasty for the Q is a welcome bonus. I could care less about who's around and prefer having the lake or stream to myself.
I report -- honestly -- on the few times per year I go fishing but it is not to stroke my ego; I'm simply telling people roughly where the fish are biting and on what gear so that they may have similar experiences, if they're so inclined (or avoid them altogether :P). I also post reports in hopes that others will "return the favour" -- as Every Day does -- so that I can improve my experiences. I post pictures because I feel they enhance a report.
Despite novice and intermediate anglers calling me a "master angler" I don't let it go to my head; I know I'm far from pro and even if I was, arrogance is unbecoming.
I won't spend an extra dime for show purposes.
Of course, I'm a fairly humble person to begin with so maybe that explains it.
Cheers
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I rule :P :P
that is all LOL
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Anything you can do I can do better!
In your face I caught more and bigger fish than all of you
whaaaa hahahahahahaha
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Ego definitely plays a role when it comes to fishing. I like sharing my successes with others both to share the enjoyment of the success, and also partly because I like it that others know I am proficient at angling. I take a measure of pride in being known as a fisherman by my friends, and as a decent fisherman by my fishing peers. No problem with that. :)
That said, I write reports PRIMARILY because I have always enjoyed reading other's reports. I crave reading about fishing trips, both about the fishing itself and the small details that make going fishing so enjoyable, such as an on-the-water macgyver-style repair, or seeing a bear, or making a new friend.
Ego? Yes. But it's a small part of the big picture, at least for me. :)
Good question, clarki.
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All forum members who have avatars that are pictures of them holding large fish are suspect of being raving fishing egomaniacs..... ;D ;D ;D
I may be weird, but the last thing I want when I'm fishing is an audience. Not just because I don't want them to see me slip on a rock and land on my arse with pole in the air. But I love the solitude that I can't get at home or work. And I let 90% of my fish go so I often don't have any proof to back up any bragging.
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For me, my report is short and to the point to tell fellow fishermen what is happening around our rivers....
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Most of the time I am fishing alone or with a close friend. It's not about ego, but about spending time doing something that allows me to escape from the daily grind and stresses of life. I really hate fishing around other people.
As for posting, I look to the discussion boards for information and post back fishing reports as a courtesy; like giving back to the community.
Fishing is to each his own.
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i enjoy watching people catch fish almost as much as catching fish myself. i like having quality gear. it looks good and last longer and can perform better.its not for my ego. i would say when i hook fish and can't land them cause the break off or pop off...that hurts my ego a little. ; :D i also love to hear of others success's. i don't really take it as them showing off.some people's stories how ever are more realistic then others i think.
nice post .
cheers
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for the most part, i enjoy just getting onto the river, i mean i have to ride my bike 1.5 hours to do any kind of fishing anyway, i always like to fish alone, or worth really good friends or family that i have been fishing with all my life, I will admit when I'm with my friends i will boast around like I'm the king sh*t and know everything there is to know, but they know its all in good fun and in reality we are the same way.
when approached by other anglers or pedestrians, asking how the fishing is or how I'm doing, I'll be honest and tell them how I'm doing, I'm not going to spread falsity and lies to make it look like I'm a superior fisherman, I'm just out on the river or lake to have fun, not boost my ego, because in reality, I probably won't see that person again. and I'm not a great fisherman, i just do it for relaxation and alone time so i have no need to lie or boost my ego about fishing.
I don't really post fishing reports on line, and if I'm talking to some one in person i will usually tell them what i know and not what they necessarily want to hear. since i can't give info on something i haven't seen or experienced, i can only offer people my experience and best guess as to what might be happening.
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i dont post much reports anymore and if i do its usually on conditions / how many fish I think are in the system.
not in it for glory or to brag. I will brag/show off with buddies but its give and take and part of the social aspect of it.
more so look forward to getting out for a day of fishing with my buddies who are new to it and im trying to get them hook on it, so i rather see them catch fish and i will help in anyway that i can.
I like top of the line rods and reels just cause its a passion of mine and i want to fish with the best however it never made any difference to how many fish i caught
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Methinks thou dost protest too much
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Good post Clarki !!!
Sigmund Freud (1856-1939) was known as the Father of Psychoanalysis and his psychoanalytic theory of personality, ego strength is the ability of the ego to effectively deal with the demands of the id, the superego and reality.
Freud developed the model of the psyche composed of the Id, Ego, and Superego. The Id works on the pleasure principle - it seeks to avoid pain and increase pleasure at any cost. It drives us to search for food when hungry, rest when tired, and other basic impulses that ensure our survival. The Superego acts as the moral police, and demands that we act in a moral and socially appropriate manner, no matter the circumstance. It works in direct contradiction to the Id. The Ego works as the executive of the psyche, striving to find a balance between the Id's hedonism and the Superego's moralism.
His theories were controversial and still are even today but whether you agree or not one has to admit they are interesting.
I, myself am a very social person and so my fishing trips are mostly with friends or relatives. But that special connection to nature always exists for me and many times a year I find myself a quiet place of solitude by a river to read, listen to mother earth and to ground myself, once again.
I must be honest and say my ego shines when I get lucky and outfish my friends but I don't feel a need to post hero pic's on the net
to prove anything. I know who I am and what I'm capable of and anyone that knows me is comfortable and happy for sharing their time with me.
I enjoy posting reports on FWR, the only site I ever post on except for the Denver Bronco board. I must say I don't post about many, many of my fishing trips because I get lazy, too many days pass by from the actual trip or I'm just not in a creative mood. When I sit down in front of my computer a whole new world opens up and I can be in Ireland or the Ukraine or on the coast of Oregon speaking and chatting with friends in seconds. I get lost.
My fishing gear is very good and certainly does the job but I always think back many years ago when another fisherman asked me what makes someone a great fisherman. I thought about it for a minute before I answered and then I said, its not just one thing that makes a good fisherman but a combination of many small things. The right hook, the correct knots, the line, bait, location, timing and luck and most importantly, attitude.
Whatever you do and wherever you go always make the people you meet feel better for having been with you and be happy and accepting of all people. Your ego may not be as big as other peoples but in the words of the great Sebastion Horsley :
“We can't all be stars because someone has to sit on the curb and clap as I go by.”
Good Fishing All !!!
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Admit it. How much does fishing feed your ego?
It's not about the ego. It is about feeding the basic hunter-gatherer instinct and filling up the freezer.
When fighting a fish, how often do you steal a quick glance to see who is watching you play it?
Only to ensure some idiot is not casting his rig when I am coming down with a big brute. Nothing can spoil my day faster than some dork crossing my line.
How often is the real motive behind your fishing reports to affirm your status as a skilled angler? Have you ever posted the same fishing report across multiple websites?
I don't need no stinking reports to affirm anything. I can hook a fish every time I am out. If fish is running, I'll catch it. [/quote]
When you go into a tackle shop, do you make an effort to ensure the salesperson knows that you aren't a rookie and that you know a thing or two about the sport.
The moment I confidently ask for 1, 2, 3 and 4-ounce heavily rubber coated bouncing betties, 3/0 and 4/0 red gammies, green yarn and short and stubby beaded leader protectors, the tackle shop staff knows they are dealing with a pro.
Is any of your fishing attire, or equipment, for show or status?
I only wade in designer jeans and brand name sneakers, what did you think?
Why do you really post pictures or YouTube videos?
I don't, but my adoring fans sometimes secretly record my prowess.
How often do you hesitate asking a question online because it might contradict the status that you are trying to project?
I have no qualms about asking what's running at any given time.
What do you want your online handle to convey about you?
It's my name. I am proud of who I am. No need to hide behind a handle.
Is there any coho in the Vedder yet? Cant' wait to hit the Tamihi...the Fraser's been sloooow.
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I only wade in designer jeans and brand name sneakers, what did you think?
Which brand do you wade in? LOL..
this one made me laugh.
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The moment I confidently ask for 1, 2, 3 and 4-ounce heavily rubber coated bouncing betties, 3/0 and 4/0 red gammies, green yarn and short and stubby beaded leader protectors, the tackle shop staff knows they are dealing with a pro.
Thats the one I like, made me howl !!! They know they are dealing with a Pro , tee heee.
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shops don't care. they want more people fishing. that is all.
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I will say fishing feeds my ego a bit, but not because I can show off, more because I feel good that I was able to get a fish to bite. I never steal a glance to see who's watching, as a rookie, I am again simply overjoyed that I have a fish on. My motive behind fishing reports is to return the favor of the many reports I seek out, and put to use. When I go to the tackle shop I feel like a rookie, and ask a ton of questions because I am learnig, and it always pays off. I used to get nervous because I would sound like an idiot, but the guys at the shops are there to help and I have never been laughed at or mocked, so it's all good. I have spent too much money on fishing gear, so I look the part, but I've done that for golf, and other things too....I have a full blown wood working shop in my garage and I build 1-2 projects a year. I think I just like to collect stuff. I don't post on you tube, and I am not afraid to ask questions, because I have no shame in the fact that I am new to this sport, and eager to learn. My handle has been my nickname since grade 9, so it's been with me for over 20 years, and is the same handle I use on any website, email etc....
good post, very interesting topic btw...
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oh yeah, Go Bronco's....Manning looks goood, (sorry to get off point)
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I posted a quick canucks reference on an industrial design website comment section last year and the whole comment was removed by the admins including the real comment. So good for u guys for allowing free speech... ;D
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I do it subconsciously, I didn't really think about it until you said it. I am guilty of quite a few of these things even if I'm not trying too. There is defiantly some show boating in fishing and we all do it. I noticed I am getting better but I know I still love it when a fellow angler goes "wow". Then again I know when I say "nice fish" to someone I can tell their eyes light up as well. It's not a part of the sport we talk about very often but I think it most defiantly is a big part of the sport. Even if we don't realize it. I think it also adds to the sport as well as long as the person is not eccentric about it.
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I will say fishing feeds my ego a bit, but not because I can show off, more because I feel good that I was able to get a fish to bite. I never steal a glance to see who's watching, as a rookie, I am again simply overjoyed that I have a fish on. My motive behind fishing reports is to return the favor of the many reports I seek out, and put to use. When I go to the tackle shop I feel like a rookie, and ask a ton of questions because I am learnig, and it always pays off. I used to get nervous because I would sound like an idiot, but the guys at the shops are there to help and I have never been laughed at or mocked, so it's all good. I have spent too much money on fishing gear, so I look the part, but I've done that for golf, and other things too....I have a full blown wood working shop in my garage and I build 1-2 projects a year. I think I just like to collect stuff. I don't post on you tube, and I am not afraid to ask questions, because I have no shame in the fact that I am new to this sport, and eager to learn.
This. In fact you could be my long lost twin.
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Go to the Stave River. Spot all those little kids (under 12 years old) catching and reeling in big salmon by themselves. You don't catch anything, well, that's damaging to your ego.
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oh yeah, Go Bronco's....Manning looks goood, (sorry to get off point)
Yeah baby, I was very much impressed with Peyton and the Bronco defense as well. Like the announcer's said, "Super Bowl aspirations in Denver have just shot wayyy up."
And to keep in line with the thread's content about ego, I believe sometime that its not necessarily about ego. This is a quote : Each Warrior wants to leave the mark of his will, his signature, on important acts he touches. This is not the voice of ego but of the human spirit, rising up and declaring that it has something to contribute to the solution of the hardest problems, no matter how vexing!
And if you don't like that one how about,
An old man in his final breaths called in his family and said "I must apologize to you all. I suppose I haven't been the perfect father and husband. I shamefully admit that I spent as much of my life as I could in the woods and on the streams. I was rarely at home during the fishing seasons and I'll admit that I spent too much time at the fly shop, and too much money on rods and lines and reels." He paused here to rest for a minute, then continued. "I've been a terrible father and I hope you all forgive me." Then he paused again and looked around. Then he closed his eyes and smiled and said in a half whisper to himself, "and on the other hand....I have caught a helluva lot of trout."
Good Fishing All !!!