Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: JPW on September 07, 2012, 06:45:31 PM
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Just picked up some sweet new jigs to build up for the Coho season from Highwater Tackle in Lonsdale.
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There are a ton of colours to choose from and I'm betting they're going to be deadly! As usual the crew at Highwater was incredibly helpful and answered all my questions. I highly recommend them if you're on the North Shore (and even if you're not!).
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I love how the lead heads seem to glow. I know it says owner hooks and that usually means a great hook but what are the hooks like with these jigs. I have only found one jig hook to be good enough for jig fishing for salmon and steelhead. Please let us know how these end up standing up this year.
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I love how the lead heads seem to glow. I know it says owner hooks and that usually means a great hook but what are the hooks like with these jigs. I have only found one jig hook to be good enough for jig fishing for salmon and steelhead. Please let us know how these end up standing up this year.
I used Maxi jigs last year and didn't have single issue. Company uses Owner 2X strong hooks and they are bullet proof
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how much are these three packs? I've had no complaints with the owner jig hooks
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You guys should try out bent rods jig's. They did very well for me all through coho season and steelhead season last year.
the sickle hooks are just the bomb.
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I agree, the bent rod jigs are good, good hookset with the sickle hooks.
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What colors (rabbit fur or marabou) did you guys find work especially well with coho at the Vedder?
Did you jig them from the bottom, or free spool them under a float? Did you tip it with prawn? If I can get away with using jigs and prawns vs roe for coho I'd be pretty happy.
I caught a couple of steelhead with lots of pink.. pink white, pink chartreuse, but it wasn't like I was slaying them so can't say anything definitive. I know chum simply can't resist a jig. I don't have much experience with coho and jigs.
I like the sickle hooks a lot too. Not sure though whether the solid, perfect right-on-lip hookset is because of the sickle hook or if it's because of the way a jig sits/floats down a river.
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it really depends on the colour of the water.
I suggest a pink/chartreuse, Orange/peach, orange/red, aswell as the classic pink/white.
if you want to add a chunk of shrimp or other sentables that also helps your hookup chance.
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I suggest the folowing color combos for coho.
Brown/orange
olive/orange
pink/blue
blue/silver, such as pearl uv polar chenille , or krystal flash
black red
and my favorite all around jig purple/cerise.
I always tie in some kind of sparkle shiny material into my personal coho jigs although it is certainly not essential.
Another thing to try is twitching jigs, I will be posting up a video on this technique as soon as some numbers of coho arrive worth fishing for.
Twitching jigs I use can be viewed on my website www.bentrods.ca.
I also will often just use a 1/4 ounce jig with 3" curly tail grub on it just as you would for Pink Salmon, excepting I use a bunch of different colors of grubs, such as purple, white, black, red, orange and if the water has color chartreuse.
Best of luck with the Coho this year, hopefully the run is a good one.
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If I can get away with using jigs and prawns vs roe for coho I'd be pretty happy.
I can quite honestly say in my experiences I have out fished myself and others almost every time with colorados under a float for coho over roe.
Tossing spoons around will out fish anything else for coho IMO.
Then again I never did well with roe for much else than springs, spring jacks (practically all they hit) and steelhead, so maybe I'm not the best to weigh in on that one.
Haven't done much with jigs because the metal works so well, but if I were I would definitely toss some blue's and purples. I would also try a red and yellow one to imitate a mickey finn (has to be one of the deadliest flies). Blue/green, orange/yellow are other things Id try.
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I also will often just use a 1/4 ounce jig with 3" curly tail grub on it just as you would for Pink Salmon, excepting I use a bunch of different colors of grubs, such as purple, white, black, red, orange and if the water has color chartreuse.
That's my favorite coho lure. So simple tied right to the mainline.
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I can quite honestly say in my experiences I have out fished myself and others almost every time with colorados under a float for coho over roe.
This blows my mind. Now I think you just don't make your roe right. From what I have seen a good coho roe is unstoppable.
Heck I don't even use bait any more for steelhead it's just too damn easy.
Sorry for the thread high jack. Bent rod jigs are amazing!!!! I buy them bulk in #1. Once you hook up they don't let go. Also they sharpen up very well.
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Pink, blue, chartruse, purple and red are killer colors for coho and chum. When a fish hits it, no way they will let it go. Pull your float right down to your lead and only have your leading hanging, and these fish will come up to the surface and swallow it like there is no tomorrow. Make sure to bring your pliers! Can't even tell you how many amazing stories Ive had when fishing with jigs. Bent Rod jigs have really tough hooks, only jigs I will ever buy.
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bentrod jigs... best hooks.. recommended.
I tie my own, using bentrod's material... I tie clumsy jigs, but killers... particularly chum killers..
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I'm really interested in trying jigs for coho. How do you guys fish them? Just short float? Do I still need to add lead weight to get the jig down, or is 1/4oz enough to omit the extra lead?
How about fishing them without a float in slack water? I imagine a jig and retrieve along the bottom could be productive, but maybe fly fishing is a better option for this type of water?
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I'm really interested in trying jigs for coho. How do you guys fish them? Just short float? Do I still need to add lead weight to get the jig down, or is 1/4oz enough to omit the extra lead?
How about fishing them without a float in slack water? I imagine a jig and retrieve along the bottom could be productive, but maybe fly fishing is a better option for this type of water?
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Even jigs with pink and red duct tape for the body have made a killing on the river lol :P ;) Something about jigs just seems to trigger a respose out of the fish.
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Even jigs with pink and red duct tape for the body have made a killing on the river lol :P ;) Something about jigs just seems to trigger a respose out of the fish.
yo BC how many hoes have you actually landed on jigs ??? Chum are one thing but chrome Coho hammering jig after jig? Its hard enough getting them to hammer nicely cured roe consistently. ;)
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Northern coho = lots, local fraser valley fish.... few
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Northern coho = lots, local fraser valley fish.... few
Thats my take as well. I get the odd coho on a jig but way more on spinners, blue foxes, spoons, and of course the main one FLIES!!!
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yo BC how many hoes have you actually landed on jigs ??? Chum are one thing but chrome Coho hammering jig after jig? Its hard enough getting them to hammer nicely cured roe consistently. ;)
Sloughs and in the Canal last year, blades and jigs were my go to. Only fished roe for my first trip in September and then stopped bringing it. Coho in the Nicomen Slough loved them. Once the tide turned and fresh fish came in, it was game on. Small jig heads and a sparse body. The canal just after first light was killer. Easily over 20 Coho landed on jigs last fall, but again, I only get to go out on weekends, and sometimes had to skip for practices/tourneys. You can call is BS if you want, but I will always fish a jig for the larger chunk of the day, I have so much confidence in them.
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Sloughs and in the Canal last year, blades and jigs were my go to. Only fished roe for my first trip in September and then stopped bringing it. Coho in the Nicomen Slough loved them. Once the tide turned and fresh fish came in, it was game on. Small jig heads and a sparse body. The canal just after first light was killer. Easily over 20 Coho landed on jigs last fall, but again, I only get to go out on weekends, and sometimes had to skip for practices/tourneys. You can call is BS if you want, but I will always fish a jig for the larger chunk of the day, I have so much confidence in them.
You just toss em under a float, cast/retrieve, or twitch them?
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Really short length from float to jig, and just drift them, dint hold back, and if you do, just slightly. You can add a prawn tail but Ive never really had too much luck when i put a piece on. Experiment with jig sizes and colors. You can retrieve slowly at the end of your drift if you want, but mainly just a dead drift will do it.
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Sloughs and in the Canal last year, blades and jigs were my go to. Only fished roe for my first trip in September and then stopped bringing it. Coho in the Nicomen Slough loved them. Once the tide turned and fresh fish came in, it was game on. Small jig heads and a sparse body. The canal just after first light was killer. Easily over 20 Coho landed on jigs last fall, but again, I only get to go out on weekends, and sometimes had to skip for practices/tourneys. You can call is BS if you want, but I will always fish a jig for the larger chunk of the day, I have so much confidence in them.
interesting to hear, I sure have never given them much of a chance for salmon. I might dedicate a few days this fall to fishing em and see for my self
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I put clients into plenty of coho every season and I never use bait at all, nothing but spinners, jigs and the odd spoon.
When you are getting chasers on the spinners that turn away its time for the twitchings jigs IMO.
Keep in mind though, that I am fishing out of the boat and not walking the faster water sections of the Vedder. We target Coho in slower moving areas and sloughs.
It is generally accepted that jigs are killers for Coho in all the pacific northwest, the Skeena river and Alaska.
Its is only here in the lower mainland where float fishing roe is still the favored method, that jigs are not taking large amounts of coho.
I have done extremely well on Chinook float fishing jigs and have caught enough Coho float fishing jigs and had many jig customers report back stellar success float fishing jigs to know that it is in fact deadly and far less messy than bait.
I have noticed that Coho are far less interested in bait tipped jigs than Steelhead and just a jig is just as good.
I am not here to suggest that people give up their roe fishing and use jigs, but those looking to try somrthing else, its a great alternative, cleaner and different that what others are using, which can often be the difference.
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with local distribution having these Yakima 3/pk Owner jig heads in stock most tackles can get them in very quickly. Only 1/4oz is in stock at this time with 1/8oz available in another month.
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I haven't tried using jigs much at all but I can imagine they would work under the right conditions. They look pretty close to marabou flies, but the presentation would be different under a float as opposed to drifting from a fly line. I know flies can work well for coho, and have experienced pretty good days when the conditions suited the fly. But I have to admit, quality roe can be absolutely lights out! Stratocaster and I have experienced "fish a cast" days using our "secret sauce" roe. I would say that experience is similar to chironomid fishing for rainbows in the interior when you've dialed into the right pattern. Another comparison for me is using pink flies for pink salmon (Dereke & Stratocaster know about the "staple" pattern). Fish on every cast!!! Coho on roe, rainbows on chironomids, and pinks on pink flies.
Back to the original post - I'd like to learn more about jigs. Bent rod has given some good advice about colours, so I should either get out and tie my own, or place an order!!! :)
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Seen very few coho ever hooked on jigs. Bait ,blades or flies work best, thats why theyre the go to for coho. Chums on the other hand cannot resist em
all the products you mention "work best" because that's what most people tie on all the time. It's a confidence issue and guys like Bent Rod have all the confidence in the world with jigs so they fish them alot and catch lots of fish on them. Others head towards bait or blades or whatever first and guess what works best for them? Many, many days have been saved by jigs you just need to have the confidence to try them first.
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It’s a good point in that we don’t see a lot coho caught on drifted jigs because fisherman don’t not to use them much. But in the times I’ve seen them used, or used them myself, the results simply have not compared favorably with other methods (read: roe). Maybe I just haven’t figured out the proper technique for drifting jigs for coho, or maybe they just don’t like jigs presented that particular way.
No doubt jigs can be effective in the right conditions like slower moving or frog water. Unfortunately I have yet to see them produce coho reliably in faster type moving water that we typically drift fish in. I would absolutely love to see that, because all things being equal, I would use hardware over bait any day of the week if it was equally effective.
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my favorite all around jig purple/cerise.
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I just picked up some of these jigs at Riverside. Excited try some out this year. Usually I tie on either Jim's Jigs X-strong hooks or Mustad 32833BLN w/pin and brass bead. No problems so far but I mainly fish jigs for Chum.
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Bait is deadly, but after a few years of just bringing roe, shrimp etc, you get a different feeling to fishing. The point for me is to trick the fish into biting an artificial. I bring roe, but only fish it if i really get desperate. When a fish bites something you tied, put together (blade) or made, you get a better feeling. Artificial over bait is almost always going to be my favor.
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Bait is deadly, but after a few years of just bringing roe, shrimp etc, you get a different feeling to fishing. The point for me is to trick the fish into biting an artificial. I bring roe, but only fish it if i really get desperate. When a fish bites something you tied, put together (blade) or made, you get a better feeling. Artificial over bait is almost always going to be my favor.
This is why I decided to tie flies instead of using worms for trout back when I was a kid.
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Bent Rod spinners have been excellent for coho on several rivers. I just ordered another 30 today for the season.
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We fished coho infested water almost daily for a month last year with jigs and bait. Only saw 1 coho hooked compared to 100's of chums on jigs, bait got us our limit almost everytime. Im sure you could get coho to bite anything if presented right. I know if I was selling jigs Id play them up too. Bait will always be #1, no ? about it
Not playing up anything Mr Fin, I sell more jigs and spinners than I can keep up with. Anyone who knows me or has dealt with me, knows I am all about helping anglers have success catching fish in an ethical manner. I spend many hours every year talking to, emailing and chatting on the phone with fellow anglers to help them have more success, even folks who are not purchasing lures.
The truth about Coho is they love to chase things, and are intent on killing things they deem living or intruding their space. I am not saying good roe does not slay coho, I have caught thousands on roe, but in recent years I have learned that there are other things equally effective in certain river conditions.
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Jigs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QxFJIcl2xE&feature=relmfu
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Jigs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QxFJIcl2xE&feature=relmfu
That's about it :) Hadn't seen that before. Thanx for posting that video.
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Great link! Thanks!
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Great video, I think I'm gonna have to pick up some jigs now.