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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Brian the fisherman on May 13, 2012, 10:28:41 AM

Title: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Brian the fisherman on May 13, 2012, 10:28:41 AM
I am wondering about the ratio of salmon clips and steelhead clips by species
I haven't looked around to much about this due to my schedule. *though these ideas are always distracting me from my schoolwork.*
Some say that they release around a million clipped coho
about a hundred thousand  clipped steelhead
and for springs? i have witnessed one caught but have not heard if there is an ongoing program for them.

Are the numbers that i have heard accurate? or is there an entirely different set of numbers?


one last question. . .
Is there a way to help clip the hatchery fins? if so what link would get me to the right people to discuss this with.


Thank you if anyone has to time to invest to answer any of these questions.
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Nitroholic on May 13, 2012, 10:44:11 AM
Which river are you asking about?
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Brian the fisherman on May 13, 2012, 11:55:52 AM
wow what an oversight. sorry fellas
The Vedder please.
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Old Blue on May 13, 2012, 12:13:28 PM
Check this out:

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/sep-pmvs/projects-projets/chilliwack/chilliwack-eng.htm
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Nitroholic on May 13, 2012, 01:41:34 PM
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/sep-pmvs/projects-projets/chilliwack/production-eng.htm
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Brian the fisherman on May 13, 2012, 02:49:01 PM
thank you very much.

Anyone have any information on why they release such low numbers of steelhead  compared to other types?
is this due to the available spwaning areas for each fish?
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: silver ghost on May 13, 2012, 03:15:27 PM
thank you very much.

Anyone have any information on why they release such low numbers of steelhead  compared to other types?
is this due to the available spwaning areas for each fish?

Here's some ideas that come to mind:
---the ecology of the river can only handle so many fish, as steeelhead require more space to spawn and what not.
---they don't want to pull X number of wild spawners out to spawn artificially [some will argue the 'wild' genepool is diluted bc of intensive hatch augmentation over time]
---funding - it costs money to feed the fish and pay the staff to do the hatchery duties - as we all know the government clearly hates fish and is slashing funds/changing rules which results in reduced fish production

my 2 cents
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Rodney on May 13, 2012, 09:32:41 PM
The difference in production is also due to the fact that salmon and steelhead are managed by two different jurisdictions. Salmon are funded by Federal while steelhead are funded by provincial, and their management objectives are also quite different.
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Schenley on May 14, 2012, 09:02:51 PM
Can you explain just what these management objectives are please........
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: Brian the fisherman on May 15, 2012, 09:12:37 PM
Thanks for the information guys, I' am going to look into the provincial funding end of it and see what our new NDP leader might have to say.
Title: Re: Curious about hatchery release numbers for different species
Post by: firebird on May 15, 2012, 11:00:16 PM
The paper at the following link provides useful information on the provincial perspective http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/esd/documents/wild_and_hatchery_steelhead.pdf and this one on the federal http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/species-especes/salmon-saumon/wsp-pss/docs/wsp-pss-eng.pdf