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Title: deer lake monsters?
Post by: 300zxfairlady on April 17, 2012, 09:20:12 AM
After work yesterday the clouds began to open up lettin through the gorgeous sun. So I decided to go try out my new ultralight rod and reel I had just baught. Since deer lake is only minutes away I thought I'd give it a try even though it hadn't been stocked. After a couple casts some action on the water surface caught my eye some 200 feet away. What looked like a huge splash, I figured was just a loon. Only a minute later to see another huge splash, this time I caught the shape in my peripheral. I stopped fishing and watched the lake surface.. I finally saw a fish atleast in the 10-15b range fully jump out of the water. I was shocked as I know there are only carp, catfish and stocked trout in the lake. I couldn't figure out what these monsters were! Catfish I believe are bottom feeders and rarely surface, and carp are timid as I never seen carp jump and it was way too massive to be any stocked trout. I threw my spinner to where I saw the multiple splashs, on the retrieve my line titghted, I tugged figuring I had casted into a bunch of reed only to have my ultralight rod bent 90 degrees and my 6lb line squeel and race off my reel, my drag was only set to catch panfish! I wasn't ready for such action. Bystanders stood in disbeliefe as I was hanging on my rod and praying the fish would stop peeling my line. "Pop" was the sound as the last of my line snapped off my reel flingging my rod back at me. I still don't know what it was.. Can you guys shed some light on what had just happend to me yesterday?
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: Oops Snagged on April 17, 2012, 11:03:53 AM
It was most likely a brood stock trout put in there by FFSBC
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Post by: joshuag232 on April 17, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
Maybe you snagged a carp. I have seen them splashing around in that lake before
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Post by: jimmywits on April 17, 2012, 11:30:41 AM
After work yesterday the clouds began to open up lettin through the gorgeous sun. So I decided to go try out my new ultralight rod and reel I had just baught. Since deer lake is only minutes away I thought I'd give it a try even though it hadn't been stocked. After a couple casts some action on the water surface caught my eye some 200 feet away. What looked like a huge splash, I figured was just a loon. Only a minute later to see another huge splash, this time I caught the shape in my peripheral. I stopped fishing and watched the lake surface.. I finally saw a fish atleast in the 10-15b range fully jump out of the water. I was shocked as I know there are only carp, catfish and stocked trout in the lake. I couldn't figure out what these monsters were! Catfish I believe are bottom feeders and rarely surface, and carp are timid as I never seen carp jump and it was way too massive to be any stocked trout. I threw my spinner to where I saw the multiple splashs, on the retrieve my line titghted, I tugged figuring I had casted into a bunch of reed only to have my ultralight rod bent 90 degrees and my 6lb line squeel and race off my reel, my drag was only set to catch panfish! I wasn't ready for such action. Bystanders stood in disbeliefe as I was hanging on my rod and praying the fish would stop peeling my line. "Pop" was the sound as the last of my line snapped off my reel flingging my rod back at me. I still don't know what it was.. Can you guys shed some light on what had just happend to me yesterday?
Definitely a Carp, I've seen them surface like that a number of times while fishing in my pram. They get huge!
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: cutthroat22 on April 17, 2012, 11:59:05 AM
Definitely a Carp, I've seen them surface like that a number of times while fishing in my pram. They get huge!

Yup seen the carp rise as well.  The only thing not adding up for me is the carp hunting down a spinner.
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Post by: jekern1015 on April 17, 2012, 12:04:40 PM
Here in Utah the carp are always coming out of the water right around the time they spawn. I believe it helps loosen the eggs up so they can spawn.
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Post by: RG on April 17, 2012, 12:28:58 PM
Carp definitely school up and come to the surface.  I've seen carp so big they were eating apple cores floating on the surface.  I have heard of carp hitting lures but I have never seen it and I have done a lot of carp fishing back in Ontario, likely snagged when you casted towards the school.
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: RalphH on April 17, 2012, 03:04:58 PM
"Catfish" here in BC are not the brutes some people know from the Southern Mississippi area or around Winnipeg - they are Brown Bullheads which don't get longer than about a foot and have a nasty and poisonous spine in their dorsal fin. I have seen carp jump.
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Post by: Rodney on April 17, 2012, 03:34:58 PM
I agree with joshua, most likely you foul hooked a carp. Those jumpers are definitely large carp, pretty common sightings during this time of the year. :)
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Post by: chen on April 17, 2012, 04:40:07 PM
good time to put up a fight with those big fishes

go
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Post by: Paulo on April 17, 2012, 09:52:08 PM
I once hooked a 8lb carp on a ultralight in Silvermere with a spinner bait looking for bass. Talk about hanging on for dear life. Most likely a carp.
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: BCfisherman97 on April 17, 2012, 10:38:52 PM
Carp get BIG in that lake, trust me. I remember one day, just before dark, I went for a walk and I could see several huge carp right by the dock! I have friends that fish the lake and they have pulled out some big ones.
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Post by: purplehelmet on April 17, 2012, 10:52:52 PM
What do you use to catch these?
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Post by: BCfisherman97 on April 17, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
What do you use to catch these?

Bread, corn and dough. Even PowerBait Eggs have worked. But now I prefer to target them on the fly, more of a challenge. 
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Post by: Rodney on April 18, 2012, 12:39:57 AM
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/coarse_fishing/the_underestimated_golden_ghost.html

Lilly pads and weeds make carp fishing from shore difficult at Deer Lake.
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: purplehelmet on April 18, 2012, 10:05:09 AM
Thx..  Guess I need my 9wt!  My 5wt may be too light.  I live in N. Bby., so may give it a try...
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: 300zxfairlady on April 18, 2012, 10:19:46 AM
 Ahh.. Never thought about snagging a carp :p I bet they must be fun if you had the right gear.
Yea burnaby lake really is too weedy for any good fishing unless you had a float or row boat.
I have seen some people fish from the far south beach area but have no clue how to get there.
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Post by: frozensalmon on April 18, 2012, 10:25:19 AM
are they good meat? tasteful?
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: 300zxfairlady on April 18, 2012, 10:42:03 AM
are they good meat? tasteful?

Well in asia, their a delicacy. I had caught a small carp when I was younger and braught it home to have my uncle ask if it was for dinner.. ;D

But I probally wouldn't eat any carp that comes from deer lake or any sloughs in this area for that matter..
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: Ken D on April 28, 2012, 12:22:52 PM
From Izaak Walton's the Compleat Angler back in the day:

http://anglicanhistory.org/walton/angler/chapter9.html

And your paste must be thus made: Take the flesh of a Rabbet or Cat cut small, and Bean-flowre, and if that may not be easily got, get other flowre, and then mix these together, and put to them either Sugar, or Honey, which I think better, and then beat these together in a Mortar, or sometimes work them in your hands (your hands being very clean) and then make it into a Ball, or two, or three, as you like best for your use: but you must work or pound it so long in the Mortar, as to make it so tough as to hang upon your hook without washing from it, yet not too hard: or that you may the better keep it on your hook, you may knead with your paste a little (and not much) white or yellowish wool.

And if you would have this paste keep all the year for any other Fish, then mix with it Virgins wax and clarified honey, and work them together with your hands before the Fire, then make these in to balls, and they will keep all the year.

And if you fish for a Carp with Gentles, then put upon your hook a small piece of Scarlet about this bigness [__], it being soked in, or anointed with Oyl of Peter, called by some Oyl of the Rock, and if your Gentles be put two or three dayes before into a box or horn anointed with honey, and so put upon your hook, as to preserve them to be living, you are as like to kill this crafty fish this way as any other: But still as you are fishing chaw a little white or brown bread in your mouth, and cast it into the pond about the place where your Flote swims. Other baites there be, but these with diligence, and patient watchfulness, will do it better than any that I have ever practised, or heard of: And yet I shall tell you, that the crumbs of white bread and honey made into a paste is a good bait for a Carp, and you know it is more easily made. And having said thus much of the Carp, my next discourse shall be of the Bream, which shall not prove so tedious, and therefore I desire the continuance of your attention.

But first I will tell you how to make this Carp that is so curious to be caught, so curious a dish of meat as shall make him worth all your labour; and though it is not without some trouble and charges, yet it will recompence both.

Take a Carp (alive if possible), scour him, and rub him clean with water and salt, but scale him not, then open him, and put him with his bloud and his liver (which you must save when you open him) into a small pot or kettle; then take sweet Margerome, Time and Parsley, of each half a handful, a sprig of Rosemary, and another of Savoury, bind them into two or three small bundles, and put them to your Carp, with four or five whole Onyons, twenty pickled Oysters, and three Anchovies. Then pour upon your Carp as much claret wine as will onely cover him; and season your claret well with salt, Cloves and Mace, and the rinds of Oranges and Lemons, cover your pot and set it on a quick fire, till it be sufficiently boiled; then take out the Carp and lay it with the broth into the dish, and pour upon it a quarter of a pound of fresh butter melted and beaten, with half a dozen spoonfuls of the broth, the yolks of two or three eggs, and some of the herbs shred, garnish your dish with Lemons and so serve it up.
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Post by: Dave on April 28, 2012, 03:32:11 PM
So Ken, when you try this let us know how it tastes  :D... do you even have carp in your neck of the woods??
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Post by: Fillibert on April 29, 2012, 05:17:06 PM
Do you even need a carp for that recipe?
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Post by: Dave on April 29, 2012, 06:51:54 PM
I think a chunk of burnt cedar would do.
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Post by: chronicfisher on May 03, 2012, 08:27:30 PM
was out there for a late night stroll and saw and heard some interesting things.what swimming there at night?the look rodent like is it beavers?? and kept on hearing huge splashes like something breaking he surface water.also did noticed a man fishing there at night time with 2 rods.is he after trout?carp?ogopogo?
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: Fillibert on May 03, 2012, 10:19:53 PM
There's a resident beaver crossing the river every morning and night. You can see him come out once in a while close to the boat dock. There are minks there too. I've seen some come out by the floating dock on the south side. And make sure you report ppl with 2 rods.
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Post by: Noahs Arc on May 03, 2012, 10:28:54 PM
I've never been to this lake, but if you accidentally sneak up on a beaver in the water he will let you know he's there when his tail smacks the water on his way down. Or muskrat they look like a beaver with a rat tail but smaller
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Post by: chronicfisher on May 03, 2012, 10:29:38 PM
There's a resident beaver crossing the river every morning and night. You can see him come out once in a while close to the boat dock. There are minks there too. I've seen some come out by the floating dock on the south side. And make sure you report ppl with 2 rods.

sorry still trying to learn all the things here didnt know it was not allowed.are you allow to fish at dark?
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Post by: 300zxfairlady on May 04, 2012, 11:23:06 AM
sorry still trying to learn all the things here didnt know it was not allowed.are you allow to fish at dark?

I believe you are able to fish after dark but no for salmon?, you arnt aloud to fish with 2 rods on land however you are allowed 2 rods on the boat.
Title: Re: deer lake monsters?
Post by: Rodney on May 04, 2012, 11:41:26 AM
Night time closures are implemented specifically on individual rivers and lakes where needed. For example, salmon fishing is only permitted during daylight hours on the Harrison and Chilliwack River, yet no such night time closure is in effect for Capilano River. Generally, there isn't a night time closure for freshwater fishing. If there is, you'll find it listed in regulations for the particular rivers or lakes where you are fishing.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/changes/1113/region2.html

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.htm
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Post by: Fillibert on May 04, 2012, 11:20:53 PM
Probably has to do with current just in case u fall in. And about the beaver I was stalking it once and stumbled upon a duck that made lots of noise and startled the beaver. So the tail thing making lots of noise it true.
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Post by: redlad on May 05, 2012, 05:44:51 PM
Had great fun.  Fishing carp out of canoe one June evening about 10 years ago. Awesome to be able to go after work and hook into numerous 10 pound fish.  Small piece of worm is what we used but I think the break pros go with some of the suggestions listed here on the forum for bait.