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Title: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: mr.steelheader on December 13, 2011, 06:06:40 PM
Hey guys me and a friend are goin to the alouette tommorow after schoool and will pound it till dark but how may have came through? Because im just wondering what my chances would be and also what is the legal cutthroat size limit to keep

Thanks: Cody  8)
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: colin6101 on December 13, 2011, 06:19:36 PM
I honestly doubt you will get much help on that system from this forum, best to just go give it a shot yourself. Minimum size for cutthroat from streams is 12 inches, and they must be hatchery.
This is a good bookmark to have for future reference:
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: shi man oh man on December 13, 2011, 06:50:17 PM
there needs to be water in a river before there will be any fish. tip of the day
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: mr.steelheader on December 13, 2011, 07:22:36 PM
there is there just isnt much
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: k.c. on December 13, 2011, 07:28:40 PM
I wouldn't waste your time head to the stave or vedder instead.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: mr.steelheader on December 13, 2011, 08:28:50 PM
i cant i would need a lift out there
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Sandman on December 13, 2011, 09:06:15 PM
Hey guys me and a friend are goin to the alouette tommorow after schoool and will pound it till dark but how may have came through? Because im just wondering what my chances would be and also what is the legal cutthroat size limit to keep

Thanks: Cody  8)

Your chances are slim to none for steelhead.  This system gets very few steelhead all season compared to the Vedder, so the numbers this early can be counted on one hand.  Cutthroat will be more plentiful, especially in the lower reaches, but I have noticed a dramatic decline in the last decade of these fish as well.  That said, it is a pretty little river that begs a delicate approach, so release what you catch as so that others may enjoy them too.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Burbot on December 14, 2011, 07:46:26 AM
Go out and fish have a great time and ignore the negative nellies.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: fishgutz63 on December 14, 2011, 09:31:39 AM
Go out and fish have a great time and ignore the negative nellies.
        X 2
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: rhino on December 14, 2011, 11:27:20 AM
        X 2
x3!
 hey little man! stay positive, if you venture out to fish there is always a chance to catch fish! ALWAYS!!!! Your are however guaranteed to learn and have fun. :)
enjoy!
waaaaaaay better then messing around playing video games or watching TV in my opinion.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: mr.steelheader on December 14, 2011, 12:10:28 PM
Ya thanks man
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: cohoaaron on December 14, 2011, 08:52:30 PM
I wouldn't waste your time head to the stave or vedder instead.
realy the stave would produce more then the ally?
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: colin6101 on December 14, 2011, 09:03:00 PM
The stave has a much better population of cutties, and does have hatchery steelhead as well, although not as many as the vedder.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Sandman on December 15, 2011, 06:10:35 PM
The stave has a much better population of cutties, and does have hatchery steelhead as well, although not as many as the vedder.

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Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Geff_t on December 15, 2011, 06:24:59 PM
realy the stave would produce more then the ally?

 It may not be the prettiest rivers around but it defiinatly is one that is the most productive if your are looking for a river to just catch a fish.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: RalphH on December 16, 2011, 10:23:32 AM
There are hatchery steelhead there but it is still quite early. The run is not much more than a few hundred fish and tends to bunch up over a few weeks later in the winter. Little bumps of fish appear from around Christmas right into early spring.  Not mentioned is the whitefish in that system. I have fished the Alouette for 40+ years and while it may not be what it once was, I wish I lived within walking or biking distance. You are are a young fellow in a great place to learn a lot about the sport of angling.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: cohoaaron on December 17, 2011, 09:10:08 PM
Was just at the ally today at the GOOD spots, it is DEAD no trout, whitefish, steelies or anything,  just some spawning tomatoes we need rain I love the allouette it's a great river especially if you live by it, I wish I did
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: likely on December 17, 2011, 10:48:49 PM
went today . nothing ;)
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Noahs Arc on December 18, 2011, 08:24:58 AM
Don't give up its the early season scouting that will help you hit pay dirt later in the year
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Danny21 on December 18, 2011, 01:12:15 PM
The aloutte is a very fragile system that already has more rods than it needs fishing it.  The steelhead run is very small and fragile as well... the last thing this river needs is guys coming from all over to pound the very few fish that make it up the river.  Please think twice before posting reports on small rivers.

Tight lines and best of luck for the steelies this year
-Dan
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: poper on December 18, 2011, 05:39:32 PM
I ran into a group of 4 guys that drove from north van because they heard fishing was good,it was funny, they were lined up like vedder salmon season,on a run that was barely big enough for 2 guys. :)
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on December 18, 2011, 09:32:59 PM
Most of the fishable water is on private property. So if you go you could be trespassing. It is also one of the very few rivers where the land owners actually own the river bed as well. Some of the residents dont mind and some will be very angry that your on their property. The river is not an easy river to fish.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Danny21 on December 19, 2011, 12:44:46 AM
Is this the same dan Ive met a few times this past fall?
Hey Fin
Yes that would be me ... shoot me a text and we can head out sometime.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Geff_t on December 19, 2011, 04:44:37 PM
The aloutte is a very fragile system that already has more rods than it needs fishing it.  The steelhead run is very small and fragile as well... the last thing this river needs is guys coming from all over to pound the very few fish that make it up the river.  Please think twice before posting reports on small rivers.

Tight lines and best of luck for the steelies this year
-Dan


 Yup the best thing to do is to not respond to this thread so that it gets lost amond the threads. Yes this system is very fragile and it seems to be getting worse every year  :'(
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: steelie-slayer on December 19, 2011, 06:35:31 PM
early i read an article about the allouette, saying it had bass  :-\ i've never seen one there, anyone seen any?
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Geff_t on December 19, 2011, 06:50:08 PM
early i read an article about the allouette, saying it had bass  :-\ i've never seen one there, anyone seen any?

  Go fish the north Alouette in the Pitt Meadows area.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Geff_t on December 19, 2011, 06:51:04 PM
Oh and please make sure to kill your limit of bass every time out  ;D
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: RalphH on December 20, 2011, 10:23:43 AM
I think the real problem with the Alouette is not the people fishing it, it's growth in Maple Ridge. IMO the river should be closed right down to Neaves road for much of the year.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: Geff_t on December 20, 2011, 12:46:50 PM
I think the real problem with the Alouette is not the people fishing it, it's growth in Maple Ridge. IMO the river should be closed right down to Neaves road for much of the year.

  The North Alouette river is definatly affected by growth but that growth is not directly on the river but up in the hills. The run off from the streets goes almost directly into the river because the retention ponds that they have built are not working properly in the lower sections of the developments. Now the South Alouette is more protected which is great. ARMS does a great job in protecting the river. Now as far as I can tell there is one or two tribs on the South Alouette that might run dirty into the river but as soon as it gets really bad they have someone go out and check to see what is causing it. This is alot better then what the city of Coquitlam is doing.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: likely on December 20, 2011, 08:31:03 PM
the alouette doesnt need any more rods in it. it is so fragile
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: firstlight on December 20, 2011, 09:24:06 PM
  The North Alouette river is definatly affected by growth but that growth is not directly on the river but up in the hills. The run off from the streets goes almost directly into the river because the retention ponds that they have built are not working properly in the lower sections of the developments. Now the South Alouette is more protected which is great. ARMS does a great job in protecting the river. Now as far as I can tell there is one or two tribs on the South Alouette that might run dirty into the river but as soon as it gets really bad they have someone go out and check to see what is causing it. This is alot better then what the city of Coquitlam is doing.

The City of Coquitlam knows what is dirtying the river there.
Anyone that drives up Pipeline road knows where the dirtying is comming from.
Unfortunately,money is more important than fish.
Is as simple as that.
Title: Re: 216th alouette river Steelhead
Post by: silver ghost on December 21, 2011, 12:35:32 AM
In all honesty the smaller fragile systems don't often produce well enough for people to go back a third or even a second time....