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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Preliator on November 23, 2011, 12:17:01 PM

Title: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: Preliator on November 23, 2011, 12:17:01 PM
I was exploring a stretch of river the other day and when I realized I would need to hop on dry land to get around some obstacles in the water. I stumbled upon what looked like a beaten down fisherman's path. Great, I thought, this should be easy. But then I noticed some stairs dug into the earth leading down towards the river's edge, and realized that there were some shanties built right where I was heading. I found another just a ways down, too. Now I am unsure if this path is even used by fisherman, but rather the dwellers whose homes I spotted. I decided to turn back as I didn't want to invade "their" space and wasn't sure what else was down this path. Has anyone ever ran into these people while fishing, and how did you handle the situation? 
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: Geff_t on November 23, 2011, 12:30:59 PM
I have come across things like this before. I just walk right on through their camp, say hi to however is there and just keep on going.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 23, 2011, 01:18:12 PM
I've come across a few highly camouflaged tents in a forest within reach of a local flow but only because it was winter and there was no leaf growth to cover up these little places. I just motored through, usually noone was home but one time there was and I just gave the guy a nod but he looked pretty confused ahhahah there's nothing wrong with walking through, after all it is crown land you're walking on [presumably] and therefore nothing wrong with doing it
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 23, 2011, 01:25:48 PM
oh...I must mention the WEIRDEST one - I was fishing in this spot, noone was around; dead silence albeit te sound of the river. All of a sudden i hear this *PLUNK*. I was expecting to see a merganser or one of those diving brids but where i heard it the flow was much too fast. Keep in mind I am on one side, the sound was on the other side which is actually a sheer cliff face. I walk closer to there I hear the sound, and I see this rope with a small bag attached fall into the water again and thought...wtf?! When I stared into this thick area of brush I could make out a guy sitting in this very small indent in the cliff face, you could only see the bottom of his lips through his hood; I knew it was a person because of the well camoflaged, yet different color of green in front of the brown/grey backdrop of the cliff. He had what looked like some sort of tent lean-to behind him, which was covering the indent but resting on the cliff face. It was so weird, he would have had to climb down the cliff from the top to get to that spot [40 metres plus], and there was no way he could access it from the bottom because the river was rushing dangerously fast underneath, and deep too. I moved on after that as I had an eerie feeling, felt like it was some fugitive or someone who did not want to be found. Even moreso because there was noone around, and I don't think he saw me
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: Matt on November 23, 2011, 03:52:15 PM
oh...I must mention the WEIRDEST one - I was fishing in this spot, noone was around; dead silence albeit te sound of the river. All of a sudden i hear this *PLUNK*. I was expecting to see a merganser or one of those diving brids but where i heard it the flow was much too fast. Keep in mind I am on one side, the sound was on the other side which is actually a sheer cliff face. I walk closer to there I hear the sound, and I see this rope with a small bag attached fall into the water again and thought...wtf?! When I stared into this thick area of brush I could make out a guy sitting in this very small indent in the cliff face, you could only see the bottom of his lips through his hood; I knew it was a person because of the well camoflaged, yet different color of green in front of the brown/grey backdrop of the cliff. He had what looked like some sort of tent lean-to behind him, which was covering the indent but resting on the cliff face. It was so weird, he would have had to climb down the cliff from the top to get to that spot [40 metres plus], and there was no way he could access it from the bottom because the river was rushing dangerously fast underneath, and deep too. I moved on after that as I had an eerie feeling, felt like it was some fugitive or someone who did not want to be found. Even moreso because there was noone around, and I don't think he saw me

I've seen the same guy probably on the same North Shore river.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: steelie-slayer on November 23, 2011, 04:31:08 PM
oh...I must mention the WEIRDEST one - I was fishing in this spot, noone was around; dead silence albeit te sound of the river. All of a sudden i hear this *PLUNK*. I was expecting to see a merganser or one of those diving brids but where i heard it the flow was much too fast. Keep in mind I am on one side, the sound was on the other side which is actually a sheer cliff face. I walk closer to there I hear the sound, and I see this rope with a small bag attached fall into the water again and thought...wtf?! When I stared into this thick area of brush I could make out a guy sitting in this very small indent in the cliff face, you could only see the bottom of his lips through his hood; I knew it was a person because of the well camoflaged, yet different color of green in front of the brown/grey backdrop of the cliff. He had what looked like some sort of tent lean-to behind him, which was covering the indent but resting on the cliff face. It was so weird, he would have had to climb down the cliff from the top to get to that spot [40 metres plus], and there was no way he could access it from the bottom because the river was rushing dangerously fast underneath, and deep too. I moved on after that as I had an eerie feeling, felt like it was some fugitive or someone who did not want to be found. Even moreso because there was noone around, and I don't think he saw me

a buddy told me he saw a tent thing in a hole in the side of a cliff, with a rope hanging down attached to a tree in mid river stuck in the canyon netting fish. kind weird, same guy maybe  :-\

also last novemer i was hiking the chealis trying to find a spot and found a rough animal trail so i followed it as it went to the river and at the end was a big log jam that had a bunch of logs takin out from inside with a sleeping bag inside and a big pile of firewood besie it and a firepit also inside was what looke like a net and a a couple axes , never saw the owner but i didnt stay around to find him.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: leadbelly on November 23, 2011, 07:23:19 PM
Its very common
since I started Geocaching ( getting lost with a purpose ) I have seen dozens of old and current bush dwellings, and things as weird as a trampoline for a shelter.
The Coquitlam river on the north side is really bad and my buddy just found a new one up Mcnutt yesterday featuring cammo tarps.
When I find em I like to explore and see if its occupied though I don't recommend that
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: DRP79 on November 23, 2011, 07:24:04 PM
I wonder what their story is? Fugitive, by choice, just homeless? Just brings the movie Deliverance to mind and creeps me out, LOL.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 23, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
Its very common
since I started Geocaching...

I found a mattress on a mountain geocaching once.

And LOL !!!!!!

When I find em I like to explore and see if its occupied though I don't recommend that
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 23, 2011, 09:46:34 PM
I've seen the same guy probably on the same North Shore river.

I never said it was on the North Shore  :D  ......
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: nickredway on November 23, 2011, 11:26:55 PM
Enough said about that but I can confirm that I too have seen that weirdness.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: Matt on November 24, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
I never said it was on the North Shore  :D  ...but if we're talking about the same spot... did you have to trespass to get to some dodgy stairs to access this location?

water was low, I waded across, but yes, same spot
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: StillAqua on November 24, 2011, 11:40:46 AM
A lot of these "hermits" have social anxiety disorder....they can't handle being around other people or interacting with them. The volunteers that do the annual "homeless count" in Vancouver are taught how to interview them gently at a distance.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 24, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
water was low, I waded across, but yes, same spot

You going to the SSS meeting tonight?
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: Matt on November 24, 2011, 10:51:00 PM
You going to the SSS meeting tonight?

Yeah, who are you?
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: Preliator on November 24, 2011, 10:54:48 PM
Glad to hear no one has had any negative encounters. I don't plan on exploring the shelters that I find, and to those who do, that's got to be interesting to see how crafty these individuals can be.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 24, 2011, 11:17:22 PM
Yeah, who are you?

A hunter of fish.

Don't worry, maybe one day we'll meet. Meeting was a little dry, don't ya think?

Good luck with that nomination ;)
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: brownmancheng on November 25, 2011, 05:30:58 PM
A hunter of fish.

Don't worry, maybe one day we'll meet. Meeting was a little dry, don't ya think?

Good luck with that nomination ;)
Maybe one day we will meet? Getting a little creepy in here! ;)
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 25, 2011, 07:13:59 PM
maybe I "dwell on the riverside"

MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: therise on November 25, 2011, 08:16:56 PM
A hunter of fish.

Don't worry, maybe one day we'll meet. Meeting was a little dry, don't ya think?

Good luck with that nomination ;)


I expected the Sockeye presentation to be a bit more exciting.....
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: Dogbreath on November 25, 2011, 10:18:20 PM
Rumour has it that many riverside dwellers used to post on FishBC -when that place imploded they 'just couldn't face another day' and retreated from the larger world.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 25, 2011, 10:58:47 PM

I expected the Sockeye presentation to be a bit more exciting.....

Yeah, same here. She was nice and her research was well prepared, but to be honest it didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know about ISA and I was confused as to why the sockeye there were smaller than what Matt was saying about the chilco sockeye...
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: blaydRnr on November 26, 2011, 01:24:32 AM
I wonder what their story is? Fugitive, by choice, just homeless? Just brings the movie Deliverance to mind and creeps me out, LOL.

i've been told a few of the dwellers suffer from mental illness... best to leave them be and maybe inform the authorities of their presence...most of the time you won't encounter them because they're out and about scavenging for cans or going about their business.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: Thørns on November 26, 2011, 11:18:02 PM
It could be a lot of things. There is also quite a pretty decent populace of people that practice 'Bushcraft' and 'Wilderness-Self Reliance' here in the Lower Mainland, and also in the Fraser Valley. But you rarely see the foot steps of those people in the wild unless they are the ones that wanna be found looking all Bear Grylls-esque ;)
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: BCfisherman97 on November 26, 2011, 11:22:19 PM
Ive seen them in Yarrow on a few occasions. One of them came out and we had a little chat while I was fishing. He pulled out his rod and started casting beside me. He landed a coho and as be was killing it, he was speaking to the fish and saying how sorry he was that he had to kill it.
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: firstlight on November 27, 2011, 09:59:38 PM
What did the fish say?
Title: Re: Riverside Dwellers
Post by: silver ghost on November 28, 2011, 07:33:40 PM
Probably something like "flap. flap. flapflapflap *bonk* ....eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh....gurglegurgle. ahhhh."