Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: mikeyman on November 15, 2011, 04:44:29 PM
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I stopped by the Stave on my travels this past Sunday, and was left shaking my head at the bottom bouncers and snaggers, and most of all, the fish that they were keeping, Some had rot marks on them, Kabonk! What do people do with these things? Yikes! I mean if I was in survival mode stuck in the wilderness and had to eat it to survive only if I could cook the living snot out of it maybe...even then...blah!!!!!
They were not using them for bait for sturgeon, and there where no eggs in them...so then what...hmmmm.
Smoke it or make a rotting fish stew...mmmmm, I would rather go to the grocery store and buy a frozen pink for next to nothing. Would cost much less then the trip to the river, and might taste a tiny bit better.
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i was also there sunday and witness the same thing. people fishing that pool below the lower fishing boundary with that horrible smell snagging gross spawned out chum that i wound not want to touch let alone eat. me and my girl managed to get some chromers still on the chartruse jig . she even got her first salmon. a big male on a 7 foot light spinning reel. all catch and release. was a great day.
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I asked a Vietnamese guy what he did with fish like that and he replied that they make fish cakes and that the condition of the fish didn't matter as it was mashed into a paste before using as an ingredient. Seeing as asian cooking is usually pretty tasty, I'll reserve judgement.
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I asked a Vietnamese guy what he did with fish like that and he replied that they make fish cakes and that the condition of the fish didn't matter as it was mashed into a paste before using as an ingredient. Seeing as asian cooking is usually pretty tasty, I'll reserve judgement.
i'm asian and no way I will keep spawned out fish and eat it
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i'm asian and no way I will keep spawned out fish and eat it
??? Did I suggest you would by virtue of being asian? Obviously not. Reread my post.
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Epic Fail...
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no I just saying I'm asian but I won't keep and cook spawned out fish ....
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no I just saying I'm asian but I won't keep and cook spawned out fish ....
cool story bro
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probably shouldn't quote his saying.... :-[
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I asked a Vietnamese guy what he did with fish like that and he replied that they make fish cakes and that the condition of the fish didn't matter as it was mashed into a paste before using as an ingredient. Seeing as asian cooking is usually pretty tasty, I'll reserve judgement.
I'm pretty sure you can order them up at some restaurants.
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He must have been using the FWR fish cake recipe!!! ;D ;D ;D
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/video/video_blog/2011/09-05-pink-salmon-cakes.html
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Years ago this older native guy was netting chums at the mouth of the Harrison After watching him work the nets taking in some pretty nasty looking dogs I took my boat over to him.
me "what are you going to to do with skanky chums"
him "keep them "
me "dog sled team?"
him "no smoke them to eat"
me "you could net some other nice fish over the last while. why not them?"
Him "fat content just right for smoking and they keep longer."
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Who cares what anyone else wants to whack over the head as long as its legal. MYOB and go fishing!
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Would you eat a dog? A scorpion? A termite?
Probably not, yet in some parts of the world, they are sought after delicacies.
What makes a steak tender?
Decomposition.
Likewise, spawned out fish is already tenderized.
Just add your favourite sauces/spices to mask the fishy stink and voila - protein-rich cuisine extraordinaire with no hard work. ;D
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A couple years back seen a guy keeping chums which looked a couple weeks past their prime and he said he feeds them to his dogs....I bet he has mean dogs :-\
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Uck.......shouldn't have read this thread....so much for my plan to make salmon cakes with mango salsa for dinner tonight :P
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When fishing on Stave 2 weeks ago, I asked a guy who kept a couple of green chums with long teeth. He said if you smoke it, it has no difference. and he actually release a few chrome ones (which are smaller females).
Some people doesn't care how fresh the fish is while others think it is a big deal.
Last week I saw an old guy said to someone kept a not so fresh chum " I don't even feed it to my dog, blah blah". who am I to judge?
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This season on the Stave I have see silver chums and they are all female. All the bucks are either green or blackish. Is this normal? Do the bucks turn green as soon as they enter the Fraser?
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some do some do not, i am pretty sure late spawners will colour up right when they enter the fraser. Caught severals coloured ones on the tidal fraser several years back.
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This season on the Stave I have see silver chums and they are all female. All the bucks are either green or blackish. Is this normal? Do the bucks turn green as soon as they enter the Fraser?
It is normal. Male salmons arrive first to claim territory and females arrive later. So chances are if you catch a male, it would have been there for a while longer than a female on average. Larger salmon also arrive before smaller ones. What I've experienced has been consistent with this. Early on, I caught bigger fish, later on, I caught smaller fish.
http://www.marinebio.net/marinescience/05nekton/sarepro.htm
http://salmon.southernfriedscience.com/?p=29
"Older salmon tend to arrive before younger ones. Larger salmon (of a given age) tend to arrive before smaller ones. And male salmon tend to arrive before female salmon.
Migratory performance may play a part: bigger fish swim faster and arrive sooner even though they leave at the same time (larger fish have more energy to use on migration).
Feeding ecology may play a part: the optimal duration of time at sea depends on how big the fish is…if the time to migrate home comes around and you are a small fish, you might postpone your migration for a little while in order to eat more. There’s a balance between growth time and spawning time—if you stay at sea a bit longer you can grow more, but if you push migration off for too long, you’ll miss your chance to spawn.
Spawning ground dynamics may play a part: smaller fish are not as competitive and so their best strategy may be to arrive after bigger fish. Breeding dynamics favor male early arrivals too; it’s more of an energetic waste if a female arrives too early and her eggs are wasted than if a male arrives early and his sperm is wasted. Eggs are typically much more energetically expensive than sperm in the animal kingdom."